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no party owns feminism
new agenda speaks out

Posted on June 8th, 2009 in On Consignment by hireheels

ON CONSIGNMENT: Amy Siskind is the founder of New Agenda, a women’s group which sprung up during the 2008 presidential election in defense of women’s rights.
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Ah, the hacks that killed the women’s movement are back at it again. Yesterday, a young woman writer named Michelle Goldberg wrote a piece in The Daily Beast titled The Re-invention of Hillary Clinton, in which Michelle writes that she has apparently discovered (my emphasis added):

A year ago today, Hillary Clinton ended her presidential campaign-to the relief of many. But even her critics must admit that as secretary of State, she’s been a feminist hero to behold.

To the relief of who Michelle? You?

Yes – Michelle goes on (my emphasis again):

One year ago today, Hillary Clinton ended her presidential campaign, much to the relief of millions of ardent Barack Obama supporters like me. Throughout the primaries, I had been irritated and then outraged by those who argued feminism obliged women to back her… So when she made her rousing and gracious speech in the National Building Museum, conceding defeat but celebrating "18 million cracks" in that highest, hardest glass ceiling," I was too furious to really hear her.

Now, if you click on the "irritated" link above, you’ll be taken to an article the Michelle wrote titled "3 A.M. For Feminism" after the Democratic National Committee Rules Committee on May 31, 2008. The DNC RBC event is significant because, amongst other things, WomenCount, PUMA and Just Say No Deal were all born. Michelle, however, a self proclaimed "ardent Obama supporter" was not happy. Michelle interviewed me for her 3 A.M. article that day in DC after my speech: I’m Not Your Sweetie Howard Dean in which I described my disappointment with the DNC for turning a blind eye to the sexism directly at Hillary Clinton. Michelle, an ardent Obama supporter, didn’t like what I had to say. Now, let me pause for a moment and say this:  if Michelle Goldberg is ever attacked in a sexist way, The New Agenda will come to her defense. This is what we do!We speak out against sexism directly at any and all women. That said, women like Michelle are exactly the reason why feminist has fallen on hard times to begin with.  You see, Michelle is part of the clique, and if you don’t meet her criteria, then well, apparently you are not a feminist. Let me explain.

As many of you know, The New Agenda, along with many other organizations and blogs, spoke out about the Ms. Magazine Cover featuring President Obama. As a result of our speaking out, we were interviewed on CNN (see below) and as well, I wrote a piece
for The Daily Beast titled How Feminism Became the F-Word.

Ms. Magazine and its owner did not like that we were speaking out, and so, started a smear campaign. In an email blast to a listserve of feminist writers, as associate editor as Ms. sent around a note: The cover is generating some backlash online from Hillary supporters Michelle Goldberg was apparently part of this listserve – here was her response:

I quoted the woman who wrote about this for The Daily Beast months ago in my TNR piece about Hillary holdouts. She was cheering for John McCain. That’s not what a feminist looks like, as far as I’m concerned… (and apparently Michelle’s comment upset enough people on this listserve that my inbox got five copies.)

So, let’s see Michelle. First Hillary Clinton was not a feminist – oh until today when you discovered that she was. And any woman who is either a Republican or votes that way in any election is not a feminist either. Oh and I am not a feminist either since I spoke out about sexism in the DNC (sexism only counts if the Republicans do it). Who then Michelle is a feminist in your book?

You see this is the reason that feminism fell on tough times the membership ranks have dwindled in recent years. For Michelle, if you don’t fit every criteria on her list, then apparently, you are not good enough to be part of whatever she believes she is speaking for. But Michelle, you don’t speak for us. You speak for what has been and no longer is. You see, your clique is so small, you have become a self-contained unit of few. The future looks bright and frankly quite different. We call it Big Tent Feminism – it’s inclusive, it’s revolutionary, and it’s truly the way forward. So maybe Michelle, now that you are no longer too “furious to hear”, you can evolve to the next generation of the women’s movement and join us. Just like Motel 6, we’ll leave the light on!

P.S.: Just one side note: Michelle Goldberg actually had her publisher reach out to me in December 2008 to preview her upcoming book. I guess back then,
I was still a feminist!


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new agenda speaks out'.

  1. on June 8th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    as far as the MS mag story i think hillary would have been the best 4 the cover palin would aslo been a good idea . but Bo on the cover . what were they thinking??

  2. Cindy said,

    on June 8th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    thanks, hh, for sharing this excellent post by amy.
    and ain’t it the truth?!

  3. on June 8th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    well hopefully are girl hill get those 2 those 2 U.S. journalists sentenced in N. Korea free.. if anyone can she can

  4. hireheels said,

    on June 8th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    it’s hard to believe an entire year has gone by since the hillary fight!!

    thanks amy, for reminding everyone of the points that really mattered…keep up the good fight New agenda!

  5. on June 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    hireheels said,

    on June 8th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    it’s hard to believe an entire year has gone by since the hillary fight ….

    how time flys princess i did seem just like yesterday
    & now we get ready for round 2 this time we & take our country back

  6. on June 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am

    love your news splash page princess ,

    the sign that Palin’s a major thrat to the good ole boys club is the keep going after with after her its seems the sexist remarks never have even subsided on palin since the elec end,nt
    just whatch with 2011 shows up & it looks our girl hill starting getting ready for her run POTUS you can bet theres going to be an major uptick in the same thing expect it will be worse much worse than last time.

    that my take on it

  7. Cindy said,

    on June 9th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    boogie—– I think you’re exactly right. And they’ll articulate their sexism early and often, because it’s so acceptable (and pervasive)

  8. on June 9th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    ones thing for sure Palin’s scaring the C**** out of sombody
    thats why i think they are comeing after her so hard . hillary was the scaring C**** out of the same people that why the came after her so hard .

  9. on June 9th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    this is my take on with the upswing on sexist attacks on hillary & Palin’ this past elect i think the good ole boys club is in troubel & they know it

    so what do you girls think ?

  10. Cindy said,

    on June 9th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    boogie—yes the good ol’ boys are in trouble, but then, they always are. and they never see the need to add some estrogen to their little club, so that’s why nothing ever changes. that’s just my opinion.

  11. on June 9th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Cindy.. they have been so much troubel they freeking out right now.. to me it looks like the are in panic mode.

  12. Cindy said,

    on June 9th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    boog—-greta’s show was great tonight!
    she showed obama making a speech today saying that we shouldn’t spend more than we have! huh? this from the same guy who pushed through the godzillion dollar “stimulus package”?
    if you stay up late, watch her show’s repeat ( I think midnite, our time).
    she also plays the letterman video bashing palin and her daughter. and she has some choice words to say about that.
    so yes, you are right…..they are panicking and now saying things that either sense or are incredibly cruel!

  13. on June 10th, 2009 at 7:52 am

    grata i think had an great show last night . it good to see that shes not a suck up .
    if you want to see real press go to germany

    So stop it, all of you,” he said.” I know you have to find something to report on, but we have more than enough problems out there without manufacturing problems.”

    it kinda looks like BO got kinda ticked when they started asking questions other than the ones he wanted them to ask


  14. Cindy said,

    on June 10th, 2009 at 9:32 am

    thanx for that link——you’re right about the german press. and
    when I was over there in the ’60′s, i thought it was the cleanest country I had ever seen!
    of course, you know that this part of texas was settled and farmed by germans. the wends settled near where our ranch is now…the wends came over in 1848 because of persecution. and started the american lutheran church. there are still church services in german at the little church there near the ranch. but, unfortunately, no one speaks wendish anymore

  15. on June 10th, 2009 at 10:53 am

    i think iv given up on our MSM there acting like his fan club or groupies or something but they are not not journalist . i mean what they did to hillary.,Palin’ & us was unforgivable

  16. on June 10th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    its pretty bad when you have to go 2 other countrys to get an objective media. but unfortunately thats what it looks like it has come down 2

  17. kitkat said,

    on June 10th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Sadely, it is because of people like Michelle that I gave up my own crusade for feminism. Michelle and other women like her that dismissed the historic importance of Hillary’s run and were joyous over her defeat can go to …….

  18. Cindy said,

    on June 10th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    kitkat—you are so right about michelle. she’s so delighted to be yet another first lady on the arm of her man.
    and never forget what michelle said on abc news back in march of ’08. She was asked if she would support hillary for pres. if hillary turned out to be the nominee…. her answer? “hmmm. i’d have to think about that”.

  19. on June 10th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    kitkat said, dont give up.. i didnt & i dont plan 2

  20. Cindy said,

    on June 11th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    boogie— it’s hard not to give up, though, isn’t it? and i swear this new attack on palin is as bad, maybe worse than last year…. when will the democrats stop the “women-bashing?!”
    the more i hear palin talk, the more i like her.
    she is one tough lady!

  21. on June 11th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    Cindy i agree we should never give up & especially now when they keep up with these attacks it makes you
    want 2 fight harder.

    i dont think the dems will stop i think its only going to get worse

  22. Back Bay Style said,

    on June 11th, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Love the Splash! Indeed, we knew!

  23. on June 11th, 2009 at 11:23 am

    looks like joe got one thing right she is main player

  24. foxyladi14 said,

    on June 11th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    main player!!!!.she is the real potus.that other guy is just window dressing.

  25. on June 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    hey foxy whats new

  26. finely said,

    on June 11th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    NOW outs Letterman:


  27. on June 11th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    finely its good to that now has come out against letterman . thanks for the link

  28. on June 11th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    and as far as this H1N1 Flu Update: WHO at Level 6 today it
    i dont buy it .everytime i here about this thing it sound just like 1 more distraction . dont let em scare ya girls and they can,t call it the swine flu anymore whats up with that .

  29. kitkat said,

    on June 11th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    HH – Thanks for the link to the Hillary article. She is one amazing leader.

  30. kitkat said,

    on June 11th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    NOW is always a day late and a dollar short.

    I give kudos to The New Agenda always ahead and unbias . . . that is a women’s organization I can respect.

  31. Cindy said,

    on June 11th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    boogie— i’m with you on the flu deal.
    remember bush? every time his admin. was getting bad press or having a bad hair day, they would increase the terror level to orange. i think that’s what obama does with the flu “updates”

  32. on June 12th, 2009 at 5:10 am

    cindy that’s it exactly you nailed it its the same old scam remember they said this flu was supposed to come back in winter expect worse . its not exactly winter now is it . somethings up . . remember what BO remember what one of BO_THUGS said “never let a good crises go to waist “

  33. on June 12th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Palin: Letterman owes women an apology

  34. Cindy said,

    on June 12th, 2009 at 10:35 am

    hh— thank y’all for the story about pope john paul 2 and Wanda poltawsky—-i think it’s wonderful that the pope had a special woman friend….. kind of like jesus and mary mag, in my opinion.
    good for wanda! i say if you’re going to “collar” a man, aim high!

  35. Mike in Fairfax, VA said,

    on June 12th, 2009 at 11:17 am

    Just link I thought I’d share. Seems to fit.


  36. Mike in Fairfax said,

    on June 12th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    And another.


  37. on June 12th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Mike thanks for links

  38. on June 12th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

  39. on June 12th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Sarah fights back

  40. Cindy said,

    on June 12th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    boogie—-thanks for that youtube clip. wow! sarah is so impressive, even more so than last year. isn’t she wonderful, and what a wonderful spokesperson for women everywhere. she affirms us all.
    by contrast, matt lauer is so pathetically addicted to patriarchy that i want to throw up!

  41. Back Bay Style said,

    on June 12th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    And I almost didn’t check in, I was so tired today. Wow. What a story. I think the Vatican insiders always feared the obviously virile Pope John Paul II. There were many issues I disagreed with him on, but he was probably the only full human being in the pacacy in our lifetime.

  42. on June 12th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    “US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive. ” proposal being considered by the Obama administration


  43. Cindy said,

    on June 12th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    backbay– I agree with you about john paul 2.
    he did seem so human, and a very kind person. I was sad when he died, even though i, like you, didn’t agree with him much.
    but still, “each man’s death diminishes me” said donne. and john paul 2 was no exception.

  44. on June 12th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    good evening girls

  45. on June 12th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    havent herd from princess i a while i hope shes ok
    & sis to

  46. on June 12th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    but since the is friday i think its should also be party night at hh ?

  47. Cindy said,

    on June 12th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    boogie—it’s always “party night” in central texas…..as long as the dairy queen is open!!!

  48. on June 13th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    Cindy with me it like things just a tad more spicy

    but hey why not maby we can get the full meal deal at DQ

  49. on June 13th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    not sure whos sicker Letterman’ make those degrading comments about palins daughters or people like idiots Olbermann that defend him


  50. Cindy said,

    on June 13th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    boogie—-all of those sick sexist leftists are interchangeable…….like, one size fits all.

  51. on June 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Cindy i think your right

  52. on June 14th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    kinda looks there has been some funny business that went on in irans elect they most have been playing close attention 2 the DEMS primary

  53. Cindy said,

    on June 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    boogie— you’re on to something there!

  54. on June 14th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    hey cindy are you on twitter?

  55. Cindy said,

    on June 14th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    boogie— i do not have a clue what twitter is…I know I should, but i’ve been too embarrassed to ask what it is!

  56. on June 14th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    its kinda like a social networking site .

  57. on June 14th, 2009 at 8:46 pm


  58. on June 14th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    on the hireheels home page there is a link to it

  59. Cindy said,

    on June 14th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    boogi…..thank you . I’ll check it out

  60. Rey said,

    on June 15th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Still going and keep rockin!!!

  61. on June 15th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    hmmmm i wonder if acorn has an office in iran

  62. on June 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    The Iranian election: Barack Obama’s cowardly silence \


  63. Cindy said,

    on June 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    boogie—thanks for that link….his silence is weird, isn’t it?
    i don’t know if there is an acorn office in iran, but i’d sure like to open one, and staff it with some of our acorn freaks. (or rather, “nuts”)

  64. on June 15th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    cindy yes it is i think it because hes not sure of what 2 do

  65. Back Bay Style said,

    on June 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Don’t fret Cindy, I couldn’t figure Twitter out either. I guess it’s ok for people who are on the go all the time and rely on their phones for communication, but I felt it was just repeating what I already had checked out online. In fact, you’ll love this and probably your husband will too. Apparently it’s even invaded courtrooms. A couple of weeks ago, I was in court and when the court officer gave his usual opening call to order, in addition to the ban on cell phones, he announced, “no texting, tweeting, twittering of any kind or I shall confiscate and possess!” Has that happened in Texas yet?

  66. Cindy said,

    on June 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    backbay—here in tejas, it depends on what county you’re in.
    Up north in Denton County, they will confiscate cell phones, etc. but travis county, where my hubby primarily practices, is a little more laid back.
    we have a dear friend who is a professor at one of the universities (in austin) …. he gives his students a warning after the first cellphone rings in class……..then after the second time a cell phone rings, he confiscates it and throws it into the hallway!

  67. on June 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    they they way i look at it this uprising in iran is a good thing
    when the gov starts rigging elections the people need to stand up… if our gov keeps doing the same thing then maybe that’s just what we need

  68. on June 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    “a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, ” source-Thomas Jefferson

  69. on June 16th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    hows everone doing this evening

  70. Cindy said,

    on June 17th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    boogie– just saw “Pelham 123″ remake…the acting was excellent, but we hated the mtv-ish jerky directing.
    tony scott should really think about switching to decaf!

  71. on June 17th, 2009 at 2:05 am

    Cindy so it worth going to or should i wait till it comes out on DVD

  72. on June 17th, 2009 at 7:44 am

    good morning girls

  73. Cindy said,

    on June 17th, 2009 at 9:00 am

    Boogie— you would like it, especially if you’re under 60 years of age, which we are not. tony scott’s mtv camera style makes us seriously nauseated. But the acting is out of this world!!! (we didn’t stay to the very end because I desperately needed pepto bismol)

  74. on June 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Fired IG Calls White House Explanation ‘Baseless,’ Says He’s Being Targeted


  75. Rey said,

    on June 17th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    So how’s everyone enjoying the tax cut? :)

  76. on June 17th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    what cut?

  77. Cindy said,

    on June 17th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    “…..the most unkindest cut of all;” -marcus antonius

  78. on June 18th, 2009 at 5:57 am


    Bush takes swipes at Obama policies


  79. on June 18th, 2009 at 10:23 am

    looks like our girl hill had a littel accident
    get well soon hillary

  80. Cindy said,

    on June 18th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    oh gosh, boogie— i just read about it. poor thing.
    i’m sure the obama administration will want to fire her, because she’s so “old” and must be having trouble walking and keeping her balance…..just like they fired inspector general Walpin for being ” dis-oriented” at a meeting!

  81. on June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    How about that, huh. It’s the students and WOMEN leading the charge over there. Post that on the blog for me would you, Boogie? Personally, I think we should be organizing solidarity marches all over the country. Post that on the blog too, Boogie if you agree.

    WOMEN POWER!! And it won’t be the first time women have affected change that helps everyone!!

    Of course right now the North Koreans are in the sea carrying nuclear mateiral which may be used for a missle launch toward Hawaii. Ships are under suspicion.

    XXOO everyone, and Peace!!


  82. on June 18th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Cindy i would not be supprise,d if BO did just that hillarys the only good part of the O-admin

  83. on June 19th, 2009 at 9:52 am

    EXCLUSIVE: Minn. lawmaker vows not to complete Census


  84. Cindy said,

    on June 19th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    thanks for that link, boogie.
    i have always liked michele bachmann, and good for her for standing up to the u.s. census !

  85. on June 19th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    know for my family the only question we will be answering is how many people are in our home,” she said. “We won’t be answering any information beyond that, because the Constitution doesn’t require any information beyond that.”

    i what 2 get a copy of were it says on the i Constitution doesn’t require any information beyond that how many people are in my home . so if there are any probs with i can shove that in there faces

  86. Cindy said,

    on June 19th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    boogie— does this help?


  87. on June 19th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    sure dose thanks for the link

    Still, the head count is the only part of the census that is called for by the Constitution

  88. on June 19th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    i probley wont open the door for them anyway .

  89. on June 19th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    havent herd from princess & sis i hope they are ok

  90. on June 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    hey whats new everyone ?

  91. Cindy said,

    on June 20th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    my husband noted that this morning cnn said that we americans really couldn’t get the factual news from iran because the government controlled their media over there……..hmmmm sound familiar?? that’s what’s happening here!! abc, cbs, nbc, msnbc, cnn…….all controlled by obamamania!

  92. on June 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    Cindy that sounds just about right

  93. Cindy said,

    on June 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    national organization for women elected a real feminist as their president this time! All of the hillary-friendly bloggers are excitied about her and her plans to stop sexism.
    her name is terry o’neill

  94. Cindy said,

    on June 21st, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    happy daddy’s day to all daddy’s out there!

  95. on June 21st, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    hope this new now president i dose a good job guess time will tell on how she dose..

  96. on June 21st, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    everytime i talk to Friends and ask them what they think about whats is going on iran . most common answer i say there where surprised that after this past elect that. the same thing did not happen on our country

  97. Cindy said,

    on June 21st, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    i thought of that very thing, boogie….where was the outrage over florida and michigan having their votes taken away??……..and outrage over what was done to hillary, before and during the democratic convention.
    thank god for pumas or i would lose my mind

  98. on June 21st, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    it may bring greater awareness of what went on in this country of what happened in our country i think its only a matter of time some sort of media will start compering the two even if that media is something like twitter.

  99. on June 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 am

    cindy i a qustion for ya how did you 1st hear about puma & JSND & hireheels ..

  100. Cindy said,

    on June 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am

    boogie—we started reading No Quarter in mid-spring of 08 (or maybe feb?).. also, saw cynthia ruccia from ohio interviewed on cnn. she was fantastic hillary supporter.
    and we could tell the fix was in with all the so-called “cool” ultra-liberals and “liberal” blogs..they made us sick!! . I actually had met arianna huff (huffpost) at a small intimate wedding several yrs. ago. she was the inlaw of my friend who was marrying into that family. at that time she was a republican…..then she became a moderate dem, and then she became an idiot, I mean, a liberal democrat. :)
    i saw diane from hireheels interviewed on fox and was really impressed with her, too.
    what a spring and summer 2008 was !!!!

  101. Cindy said,

    on June 22nd, 2009 at 12:29 pm


    French President Sarkozy says that burqas are not welcome in france because they represent the “debasement” of women…. wish we had a prez like that!

  102. on June 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    with me I’m not quite sure of the date but i was pretty active in the my-space Hillary forms & some of the DNC ones also . i was getting pretty pissed because it seemed the elect was fixed when
    when i herd rumblings of a movement that was starting up call the pumas … right around then i think some sent me a link with Dian’s 1st fox interview when she was telling about a new movement called just say no deal . i was like wow this girl feels the same way that i did..& felt betrayed by the DNC just like me . i said i go-ta check out her site
    so then when i came upon the just say no deal site i was like wow . theses people feel just like me soon after i found my way to hireheels

    to be honest

    but before the elect cycle began i did even know what a blog was i was not really very active on the net before then

  103. Cindy said,

    on June 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    i’m having twitter trouble again, so i have reported the problem (of not having messages sent).
    i also checked out the twitter here on hireheels….
    this (hireheels) has got to be one of the very best blogs on-line. it’s so classy! and so informative!

  104. on June 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    hey cindy i just sent you a test message let me know if you get it

  105. on June 23rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    i would like to see BO come out & make a similar statement like Sarkozy but that’s asking way to much

  106. Cindy said,

    on June 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    boogie— Obamer would never make that statement because 1) it would be politically incorrect, and 2) he doesn’t believe that women are debased.
    is there anyone who knows what he does believe, other than this patriarchy must be protected at all costs?

  107. on June 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    agree with you cindy. personally i think that BO is feels threatened by women especially independent women

  108. Cindy said,

    on June 24th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    you’re exactly right, boogie!

  109. on June 24th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    the DNC keeps pulling stunts like what happened on 5-31-08 & just like a little kids . they got away with it this time so next time just like some kid they will try it again only on a grander scale. we might be doing the same thing the Iranians are doing . democracy always finds away

  110. Cindy said,

    on June 24th, 2009 at 12:55 am

    i think the difference between americans and the iranians in the streets is that they seem to have a passion for what they think is right and just.
    americans are basically spoiled and don’t want to be inconvenienced.
    every time there’s been a demonstration concerning women’s rights in this country, there’s only been a comparatively small group protesting. years ago I was involved in one event with ann richards. there was a good group of us, but not the masses you’d expect…not enough passion from the women.
    no passion for a cause = stagnation & lethargy

  111. on June 24th, 2009 at 2:09 am

    i think your right to a point . let the gov keep taking our rights away & you see that same passion for a cause again the time but the time has to be right . and there are signs something might be on its way . we need an idea you cant kill an idea with bullets

  112. Cindy said,

    on June 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am

    you are so right….but the problem is, alot of americans don’t realize that certain rights are being compromised. that’s why we need a non-biased press corps to report facts; but instead, we have a lovesick media, involved in a blathering lovefest for their chosen guy, obama.
    investigative journalism is dead in this country.
    hey boogie, you should become a journalist!

  113. on June 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    you are so right most americans don’t realize & some dont care. as far as journalism & the MSM our country most people i ask say they dont watch it anymore or just trust it at all anymore.& in the end that may be one of the things that set people off

  114. Cindy said,

    on June 24th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    well, gov. sanford is paying heavily for his broken promises to his wife, his sons, his staff, his friends, and the citizens of s.c.
    but, the “selective morality” in this culture makes me crazy.
    our president has broken dozens of promises since taking office, most of which actually affect us and our daily lives…unlike gov. sanford’s broken promises, which have nothing to do with me.
    obama said that the very first thing he would do as president would be to sign the “freedom of choice act” into law.
    when will he pay for that lie, and other lies, and apologize publicly for it, as governor sanford has had to do for his lie?
    it takes a person of real character to own up to his/her flaws.
    i commend the governor for that.

  115. on June 25th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Cindy i agree with you 100% & that is something BO will never be abel to do .

  116. Rey said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    June 24, 2009
    Ann Coulter

    On Iran, President Obama is worse than Hamlet. He’s Colin Powell, waiting to see who wins before picking a side.

    Last week, massive protests roiled Iran in response to an apparently fraudulent presidential election, in which nutcase Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the winner within two hours of the polls closing. (ACORN must be involved.)

    Obama responded by boldly declaring that the difference between the loon Ahmadinejad and his reformist challenger, Mir Hossein Mousavi, “may not be as great as advertised.”

    Maybe the thousands of dissenters risking their lives protesting on the streets of Tehran are doing so because they liked Mousavi’s answer to the “boxers or briefs” question better than Ahmadinejad’s.

    Then, in a manly rebuke to the cheating mullahs, Obama said: “You’ve seen in Iran some initial reaction from the supreme leader” — peace be upon him — “that indicates he understands the Iranian people have deep concerns about the election.”

    Did FDR give speeches referring to Adolf Hilter as “Herr Fuhrer”? What’s with Obama?

    Even the French condemned the Iranian government’s “brutal” reaction to the protesters — and the French have tanks with one speed in forward and five speeds in reverse.

    You might be a scaredy-cat if … the president of France is talking tougher than you are.

    More than a week ago, French president Nicolas Sarkozy said: “The ruling power claims to have won the elections … if that were true, we must ask why they find it necessary to imprison their opponents and repress them with such violence.”

    But liberals rushed to assure us that Obama’s weak-kneed response to the Iranian uprising and the consequent brutal crackdown was a brilliant foreign policy move. (They also proclaimed his admission that he still smokes “lion-hearted” and “statesmanlike.”)

    As our own Supreme Leader B. Hussein Obama (peace be upon him) explained, “It’s not productive given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations to be seen as meddling.”

    You see, if the president of the United States condemned election fraud in Iran, much less put in a kind word for the presidential candidate who is not crazy, it would somehow crush the spirit of the protesters when they discovered, to their horror, that the Great Satan was on their side. (It also wouldn’t do much for Al Franken in Minnesota.)

    Liberals hate America, so they assume everyone else does, too.

    So when a beautiful Iranian woman, Neda Agha Soltan, was shot dead in the streets of Iran during a protest on Saturday and a video of her death ricocheted around the World Wide Web, Obama valiantly responded by … going out for an ice cream cone. (Masterful!)

    Commenting on a woman’s cold-blooded murder in the streets of Tehran, like the murder of babies, is evidently above Obama’s “pay grade.”

    If it were true that a U.S. president should stay neutral between freedom-loving Iranian students and their oppressors, then why is Obama speaking in support of the protesters now? Are liberals no longer worried about the parade of horribles they claimed would ensue if the U.S. president condemned the mullahs?

    Obama’s tough talk this week proves that his gentle words last week about Ahmadinejad and Iran’s “supreme leader” (peace be upon him) constituted, at best, spinelessness and, at worst, an endorsement of the fraud.

    Moreover, if the better part of valor is for America to stand neutral between freedom and Islamic oppression, why are liberals trying to credit Obama’s ridiculous Cairo speech for emboldening the Iranian protesters?

    The only reason that bald contradiction doesn’t smack you in the face is that it is utterly preposterous that Obama’s Cairo speech accomplished anything — anything worthwhile, that is. Not even the people who say that believe it.

    The only reaction to Obama’s Cairo speech in the Middle East is that the mullahs probably sighed in relief upon discovering that the U.S. president is a coward and an imbecile.

    Two weeks ago, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman was exulting over the “free and fair” national election in Lebanon, in which the voters threw out Hezbollah and voted in the “U.S.-supported coalition.” (Apparently support from America is not deemed the vote-killer in Lebanon that it allegedly is in Iran.)

    To justify his Times-expensed airfare to Beirut, Friedman added some local color, noting that “more than one Lebanese whispered to me: Without George Bush standing up to the Syrians in 2005 … this free election would not have happened.”

    That’s what Lebanese voters said.

    But Friedman also placed a phone call to a guy at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace — which he didn’t have to go to Lebanon for — to get a quote supporting the ludicrous proposition that Obama’s Cairo speech was responsible for the favorable election results in Lebanon.

    “And then here came this man (Obama),” Mr. Carnegie Fund said, “who came to them with respect, speaking these deep values about their identity and dignity and economic progress and education, and this person indicated that this little prison that people are living in here was not the whole world. That change was possible.”

    I think the fact that their Muslim brethren are now living in freedom in a democratic Iraq might have made the point that “change was possible” and “this little prison” is “not the whole world” somewhat more forcefully than a speech apologizing for Westerners who dislike the hijab.

    Obama — and America — are still living off President Bush’s successes in the war on terrorism. For the country’s sake, may those successes outlast Obama’s attempt to dismantle them.

  117. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    rey— you make some excellent points!
    i think we as americans now have as our prez, the hip-hop version of neville chamberlain.
    god help us.

  118. Rey said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    I would like to add a comment regarding the liberal voters of the state of Hawaii. Now that North Korea is threatening with those missile capability, I guess you guys are not so eager to dismantle our defenses and military funding now are you? There seems to be a gap of the way people think in both side,. However the right doesn’t seems to be playing the cover up as much as the left in their way of progression……..I wonder why? By the way, how are those changes…..lol.

  119. Rey said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Ms. Cindy, I said it before and I’ll say it again. This guys is wrong for our country. Shame to those who are looking for their own benefit rather than the welfare of our nation as true American should.

  120. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    ya know, I’m just a country housewife, but i could see through obama’s fake compassion and empty promises the minute i first heard him speak…..what a damn charlatan!
    i proudly voted for mccain-palin, and that was after 40 years of service to the democratic party. never again!

  121. Rey said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    I meant to say “this guy” but those guys will suffice as well….lol.

    ANyhoot…….even now that he is the POTUS, he is still voting “present” on issues big or small. How can a guy who voted present on all his senatorial short career be a pro-issue? I guess you really can’t fixed stupid….hahaha.

  122. on June 25th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    i dont know but dont you think thats its stange how littel the O-press is reporting on North Korea …. somethings up

  123. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    boogie– yes, i noticed that, too.
    i think north korea is a very scary situation….but hey, obama is hosting a luau tonight on the white house lawn, so i guess everything is a-ok!

  124. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    i hope north korea doesn’t mistake the “luau” for the real hawaii and aim its missle there….. uh-oh!

  125. on June 25th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    its seems its always party time BO & HIS O-thugs

  126. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    since he was a c-average student, and never had a real job, before politics, it is always party time for him and his gang of thieves.

  127. on June 25th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Farrah Fawcett (February 2, 1947 – June 25, 2009

  128. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    boogie—-and now michael jackson.
    that’s what will put americans in the streets, when rock star dies.
    I remember how cute he was as a little 10-yr.old boy.
    i still say that “i want you back” was his best song.

  129. on June 25th, 2009 at 8:10 pm


  130. on June 25th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    cindy i think you right when a when rock star dies will put americans in the streets. but take away there votes & they have no problem with that

  131. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    i don’t mean to minimize the death of michael jackson, but i just find the public reaction so interesting.
    farrah fawcett was a corpus christi girl, and went to ut.
    i went to high school with another “charlie’s angel”, jaclyn smith (known as “ellen” in high school) we were both in drama club…..guess which one made it big!! :)

  132. on June 25th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    as far as michael jackson i never really cared for him much .
    & probley never will

  133. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    it’s a shame that he got way too weird as he grew older, because he was such a cute little kid in the early days. and the best singer in the family, i thought.
    i tried to find a cable channel NOT carrying the story, so i turned on the weather channel and they were talking about michael jackson’s death, too– on the weather channel!!
    we are so screwed-up as a nation

  134. Cindy said,

    on June 25th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    did you hear what john kerry said today? that if any governor was going to “go missing” he wishes it would be sarah palin.
    god, the democrats just don’t get it, do they? what a pile of donkey droppings those people are. i am so over them. jeeze

  135. on June 25th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    hey cindy have you ever listen to puma radio?

  136. on June 25th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    yes i did hear something about that. but kerrys scum anyway

  137. on June 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn’t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he’s proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.
    The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if “it’s my family member, if it’s my wife, if it’s my children, if it’s my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

  138. on June 25th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    lets see BO wants all of us to take his plan,…. but he would not even take it ….

  139. on June 25th, 2009 at 10:39 pm


  140. Cindy said,

    on June 26th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    boogie— excellent point about obama and his healthcare plan affecting his own family. i hadn’t heard anything about it.
    as far as puma radio— i never could get it to tune-in right on my computer, but it’s been awhile, so i might try again.
    neither my husband nor myself are very good on computers.

  141. Cindy said,

    on June 26th, 2009 at 1:15 am

    just clicked on the link you provided and found puma radio. Thanks so much ! it came in loud and clear.

  142. Cindy said,

    on June 26th, 2009 at 10:24 am

    rey, I know I’m not.
    did obama have his luau last night?

  143. on June 26th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    if BUSH were XP.. BO is just THE BETA version.
    of the same old broken program

  144. Cindy said,

    on June 26th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    boogie– that’s a good way to say it.

  145. on June 26th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Farrah was a class act all the way even to the end
    & now shes with the real angels

  146. on June 26th, 2009 at 10:37 pm


  147. Cindy said,

    on June 27th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    boogie—that was a fitting tribute to farah. it seems that she was the “betty grable” of her day.

  148. on June 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    this is my take on what is going on in iran . these people want a democracy and neither of the guys that both have claimed victory are it they want a democracy something like ours just only a lagit ..one unlike ours that was rigged.

  149. Cindy said,

    on June 28th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Well, today was the anniversary of the Texas Legislature ratifying the 19th Amendment, giving women the right to vote.
    Compare the news coverage and celebration of that (there wasn’t any!!) to the wall-to-wall “Juneteenth ” celebration last weekend….Juneteenth being the day (June 19th, 1865) that the slaves in Texas found out they were emancipated (The Emcipation Proclamation was actually in Jan. 1863)
    Anyway, race always trumps gender in this patriarchy. Wonder if it will EVER change?

  150. Rey said,

    on June 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Cindy said, “race always trumps gender in this patriarchy. Wonder if it will EVER change?”

    I agree. Many versus one (gender), I can see the logic within that, however till the day that influential women decide to deny the boys the crack pot and give into their own self interest, it may never happen, Ms. Cindy!

  151. Cindy said,

    on June 29th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    rey, one problem is that no one is afraid of women, like whites in the 1950′s were “afraid” of black people. Another problem is that when this country thinks of the “women’s movement”, they think, primarily, of white women. and because of that, they have no pity or empathy for the movement, because hey! white women are spoiled brats, according to so many people in our society, so why do they need any more attention?

  152. on June 29th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    i think it will change when we get our 1st female potus hopefully in 2012 when WE HAVE PREZZ HILLARY
    you have to rember that 20 mill people voted for her in the primarys & i think that that says alot right there

  153. Cindy said,

    on June 29th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    you’re right boogie…it seems like we do have the numbers, but obama’s people will make sure he’s the nominee in 2012. (unless he’s impeached) I’m afraid they’ll do their dirty tricks again. But, we can always hope! Thanks for the optimism!

  154. on June 29th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    i think when you look at the last primary it very clear that america gets it & thinks that a women can be potus.. just look at the numbers so i think that that that old thinking that a women could never be potus is gone among the people. its just the good ole boys club that has not figured that part out ..
    that just my take on it ..

  155. on June 29th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    opps sorry hillary got 18 mill not 20 just want to correct that number

  156. Cindy said,

    on June 29th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    well, boogie, you certainly offer an upbeat philosophy about it all, and i appreciate that. When you’re in your mid-sixties like I am, it starts to get depressing wondering how much longer we have to wait to be respected.

  157. Rey said,

    on June 30th, 2009 at 8:39 am

    To my friends & associates:

    Last Monday was a profound evening, hearing Dr. Charles Krauthammer speak to
    the Center for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual,
    seasoned & articulate. He is forthright & careful in his analysis, & never
    resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an
    extremist in his comments & views. He is a fiscal conservative, & has a
    Pulitzer prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox News &
    writes weekly for the Washington Post. The entire room was held spellbound
    during his talk. I have shared this w/ many of you & several have asked me
    to summarize his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically
    & internationally. Even 2 Dems at my table agreed w/ everything he said!
    If you feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded & have not
    ‘drunk the Kool-Aid’, feel free.

    A summary of his comments:

    1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be
    underestimated. He is a ‘cool customer’ who doesn’t show his emotions. It’s
    very hard to know what’s ‘behind the mask’. Taking down the Clinton dynasty
    from a political neophyte was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still
    do not understand what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the
    perfect time.

    2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan & Clinton. He has a way
    of making you think he’s on your side, agreeing w/ your position, while
    doing the opposite. Pay no attn. to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he

    3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to
    make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, incl.
    dismantling capitalism. He can’t be straightforward on his ambitions, as
    the public would not go along. He has a heavy hand, & wants to ‘level the
    playing field’ w/ income redistribution & punishment of the achievers of
    society. He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada.

    4. His 3 main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, & NAT’L
    HEALTHCARE by the Fed. govt. He doesn’t care about the auto or financial
    services industries, but got them as an early bonus. The cap & trade will
    add costs to everything & stifle growth. Paying for FREE college education
    is his goal. Most scary is healthcare program, because if you make it FREE
    & add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs
    will go thru the roof. The only way to control costs is w/ massive
    RATIONING of services, like in Canada. God forbid.

    5. He’s surrounded himself w/ mostly far-left academic types. No one around
    him has ever run even a candy store. But they’re going to try & run the
    auto, financial, banking & other industries. This obviously can’t work in
    the long run. Obama’s not a socialist; rather a far-left secular progressive
    bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but will govern
    from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.

    6. Obama doesn’t really see himself as President of the USA, more as a
    ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate &
    coordinate various countries & their agendas. He sees moral equivalency in
    all cultures. His apology tour in Germany & England was a prime example of
    how he sees America, as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant,
    rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the
    1st President ever who has chastised our allies & appeased our enemies!

    7. He’s now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (& pain) will not
    ‘come due’ until after he’s reelected in 2012. He’d like to blame all
    problems on Bush from the past, & hopefully his successor in the future. He
    has a huge ego, & Mr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.

    8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong.
    We’re ‘pining’ for another Reagan, but there’ll never be another like him.
    He believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & Bobby Jindahl (except for his
    terrible speech in Feb.) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich is
    brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere & intelligent, but needs
    to really be seriously boning up on facts & info if she’s to be a serious
    candidate in the future. We need to return to the party of lower taxes,
    smaller govt., personal responsibility, strong Nat’l defense, & states’

    9. The current level of spending is irresponsible & outrageous. We’re
    spending trillions that we don’t have. This could lead to hyperinflation,
    depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity.
    The media is giving Obama, Reid & Pelosi a pass because they love their
    agenda. But eventually the bill will come due & people will realize the huge
    bailouts didn’t work, nor will the stimulus pkg. These were trillion-dollar
    payoffs to Obama’s allies, unions & the Congress to placate the left, so he
    can get support for #4 above.

    10. The election was over in mid-Sept. when Lehman brothers failed. Fear &
    panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, & the war was grinding on
    indefinitely w/o a clear outcome. The people are in pain, & the mantra of
    ‘change’ caused people to act emotionally. Any Dim would have won this
    election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.

    11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be
    swept back into power. If it’s under 8%, the Dims continue to roll. If
    it’s between 8-10%, it’ll be a dogfight. It’ll all be about the economy.

    I hope this gets you really thinking about what’s happening in Washington &
    Congress. There’s a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer,
    & he encourages us to keep the faith & join the loyal resistance. The work
    will be hard, but we’re right on most issues & can reclaim our country,
    before it’s far too late.

  158. Cindy said,

    on June 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am

    rey- i’ve always liked krauthammer and appreciate his words, but i must say that you are confused as to who posts and comments here at this site. none of us are koolaiders…that’s why we’re here and not at huffpost, dailykos, etc. just fyi
    you’re preachin’ to the choir, kiddo.

  159. Rey said,

    on June 30th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Hahaha….what makes you think I’m preaching ma’am. FYI….just sharing someone opinion, after all it makes it a better conversation than just two….hahaha.

    If you recall during the inauguration in Denver. I did a little research regarding the Temple of Pergamum in Greek mythology believe Zeus is an “analog”, or another name, for Satan. Maybe Princess, can tell us more about this…hehehe.

    Did you know that the temple was brought to Berlin Museum? This temple was the foremost temple to Zeus in the former Greek empire, and built by the local king, Eumenes II. Eumenes was a mentor to none other than Antiochus IV Epiphanes; yes, the very Seleucid king who committed the first AOD by erecting a statue of Zeus in the Temple and slaying a pig on the alter in honor of . . . Zeus.

    Hitler gave a series of mesmerizing speeches to the assembled masses there. And well…you know who else did….hahaha with all the places……lol. But people will say that I’m crazy….lol.

  160. Rey said,

    on June 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Hahaha….what makes you think I’m preaching ma’am. FYI….just sharing someone opinion, after all it makes it a better conversation than just two….hahaha.

  161. Rey said,

    on June 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    what makes you think I’m preaching ma’am. FYI….just sharing someone opinion, after all it makes it a better conversation than just two.

    If you recall during the inauguration in Denver. I did a little research regarding the Temple of Pergamum in Greek mythology believe Zeus is an “analog”, or another name, for Satan. Maybe Princess, can tell us more about this…hehehe.

    Did you know that the temple was brought to Berlin Museum? This temple was the foremost temple to Zeus in the former Greek empire, and built by the local king, Eumenes II. Eumenes was a mentor to none other than Antiochus IV Epiphanes; yes, the very Seleucid king who committed the first AOD by erecting a statue of Zeus in the Temple and slaying a pig on the alter in honor of . . . Zeus.

    Hitler gave a series of mesmerizing speeches to the assembled masses there. And well…you know who else did….hahaha with all the places……lol. But people will say that I’m crazy….lol.

  162. Rey said,

    on June 30th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Mar 13:37

  163. Cindy said,

    on June 30th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    i totally agree with you, and am not sure why you think i don’t. hireheels is not a pro-obama site, just fyi

  164. Cindy said,

    on July 1st, 2009 at 12:32 am

    boogie— google ” youtube ” and “Stand By Me” with Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora and a famous and popular Iranian singer …it’s very moving and brought tears to my eyes because we are NOT standing by the Iranian people, and they’re so brave!

  165. Cindy said,

    on July 1st, 2009 at 12:54 am

    “On June 24, Iranian Superstar Andy Madadian went into an LA recording studio with Jon Bon Jovi, Richie Sambora and American record producers Don Was and John Shanks to record a musical message of worldwide solidarity with the people of Iran. This version of the old Ben E. King classic is not for sale – it was not meant to be on the Billboard charts or even manufactured as a CD…..it’s intended to be downloaded and shared by the Iranian people…to give voice to the sentiment that all people of the world stand together….the handwritten Farsi sign in the video translates to “we are one”. If you know someone in Iran – or someone who knows someone in Iran – please share this link”

  166. on July 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pm


  167. Cindy said,

    on July 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    boogie—-thanks for posting that youtube link.
    Jon Bon Jovi was/is a Hillary supporter !! ! And he is helping her retire her debt.
    What a guy!

  168. Rey said,

    on July 1st, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    To the angel of the church in Pergamum write: These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword. I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. —Revelation 2:12-13

    I’m not saying that he is the Antichrist, but he is like Hitler who killed millions of Jews and now he maybe orchestrating the destruction of the rest of the tribes of Israel, while killing those most innocent little lambs. Boogie, the Pergamum Temple to Zeus is what Christ considered the throne of Satan of which the German archeologists brought or move to Berlin Museum on 1880′s. Restored the Temple and rebuilt it right in the museum. I hope these clarify the Greek Perganon replica at the inauguration which I think was symbolic to this man or beast?

  169. on July 1st, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    rey sounds to me that if you dont think BO is the Antichrist hes something preety close from your point of view

  170. on July 1st, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    is the press wakeing up??

  171. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 2nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Hi Boogie, Cindy, Rey, and all, great discussion. wish more of our friends were here. Rey, Krauthammer’s analysis of Obama’s character, agenda, and goals, is chilling, and, I believe and fear, right on point. I wonder what the late William F. Buckley would have to say now? Krauthammer seems to have inherited his mantle.

    So, it seems, that we must grit our teeth and suffer through the bad ecomony for another few years if we want to discredit Obama and his hard-left elites who have no idea what a real day’s work is like. Did anyone hear on the news yesterday that the frat boy Favreau is getting paid (I will not say “earning” ) about $170K a year to work in the west wing? But Favreau is a child and not the real problem. It’s Valerie Jarrett who scares me, and she is popping up all over the place.

    Happy 4Th to all, stand firm in exile and remember what we really believe.

  172. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    “Republicans are in the wilderness for a while…” so sayeth Krauthammer…and I say.I hope they stay there!!

    And Krauthammer is one of them. Do you actually think any Republican is going to say one positive, non-bias, rational sentence about “any” democrat?!!! And on Fox News no less. What would he be saying about Hillary if she were president? Do you think he would be singing her praises, or would he be blaming it all on her husband? To admire and agree with any of the Republicans, including Krauthammer who like any other Republican is burning over the fact they LOST the White House and supporting them in anything they say or do, goes beyond our discontent that Hillary “lost” the primary.

    And just a reminder because I lived through it, and it impacted me…it took our President Clinton 4.5 years before we saw an improvement in the economy and jobs after the first Bush left his mess. And still the Repubs don’t give him an ounce of credit; according to them, the economy would have swung back anyway. Right. And all the while they chased him, investigated him, dragged him and Hillary into court, and threw out more muck and slime and dirt about the Clinton’s than any 1 person should ever endure. It’s a miracle President Clinton got anything done. So if you want to look back at all the Republicans have done, including cheating in 2000, and agree and use what they say because Obama is in and Hillary is just what, SOS?….then be my guest.

    All I hear is the same old Republican mantra they’ve been saying for years. This is too expensive, the democrats will ruin free enterprise and the free market, they are out to destroy America….blah, blah, blah; yet in my life time every time a Republican gets in there, there goes the country, the economy, jobs, etc., etc., etc. AND WAR!! And Ronald Rey Guns was no box of chocolates either.

    Krauthammer puts me to sleep, and he sounds like a paranoid schizoid. Where was he when Pres. Bush gave two huge tax cuts to the upper socioeconomic bracket earners; or when Bush waged two wars with no way to pay for it except on the backs of the middle class. Where is his brilliant analysis of Bush and his narcissist personality along with Bush’s sidekick the So? VP? Where’s his analysis of Reagan, and say how about Nixon? And let’s go back to Hoover, the ‘”a chicken in every pot” Prez. Oh Krauthammer will speak up when it’s in his best interest to do so. To get the Repubs back in the White House. Let’s face it…he and everyone over at Fox are about to get their taxes raised when Obama repeals the tax cuts to the rich. They are all shaking in their boots over that one, I’ll tell ya.

  173. on July 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    hmmm i think i missed it what did Krauthammer’ say anyone got a link to it?

  174. on July 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    princess love that new spash page … kinda looks like palin stuned everone again i say she taking on the good ole boys club in 2012

  175. on July 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    don’t worry girls you,. have your female prezz yet .. i know now matter how bad it looks . you gota remember this time it will be different in 2012 you will 2 contenders running palin & our girl hill

  176. on July 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    happy 4th to all the girls oh hh

  177. warrior princess said,

    on July 4th, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Regardless of what Palin does, this was an obvious and blatant attempt by the BOYS to keep her from being a factor in BO’s future. If women don’t wake up and start protecting the species, it will be burqua’s for us all.

    I don’t even know where to start to get other women to see how they are being played. Unfortunatley, about half of the women savvy enough to help in thisproblem have runk the kool-aid are become part of the problem.

  178. on July 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    BOs 1st words to Vladimir Putin will probley be something like this ” ya know Vladimir im really more of a Communist that i am a fascist”

  179. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 6th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    I’m with you, Warrior Princess. I am so sick of every single one of my “liberal”, “feminist” friends, and their sudden tolerance of outright abuse when the person being degraded, humiliated, and abused is Sarah Palin.

  180. on July 6th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Sarah Palin’s attorney threatened on Saturday to sue mainstream news organizations if they publish “defamatory” stories relating to whether Palin is under federal investigation.

    In an extraordinary four-page letter, Alaska-based attorney Thomas Van Flein warns of severe consequences should speculation that until now has largely been confined to blogs — about whether Palin embezzled funds in the construction of a Wasilla, Alaska, sports arena — find its way into print.

    “This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who republish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, The New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law,” Van Flein warned, citing Alaska liberal blogger Shannyn Moore


  181. on July 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    I’m all for freedom of speech buy I’m also in favor of sueing the cr** out of people that abuse the right

  182. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 6th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Thanks, Boogie. That’s good info.

  183. on July 6th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Back Bay good to see ya back . i hope that you had a very very good 4th

  184. Cindy said,

    on July 7th, 2009 at 1:12 am

    hi boogie, backbay, et al……we’re in colorado….decided to get the hell out of dodge because of the texas heat!!!
    boogie– i loved your line about obama telling putin he’s really more of a communist than a fascist! too funny!
    and backbay— i totally agree with you about the “feminists”.
    my hubby, a true male feminist, like boogie, won the largest libel/slander case in tejas years ago…..i wish he could represent sarah palin, too.!! i know they’d win!
    what the journalists and media are doing to her is criminal.
    go sarah!!!!!

  185. Rey said,

    on July 7th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    The White House Travel Agency, and no one is saying anything about it.

    Here is your change!!!!!

    Michelle Obama Takes Girls to London for Fish and Chips

    Truly change we can believe in — or as was said during the campaign,

    “We are the change we have been waiting for.”

    Imagine this — and when do we get totally fed up?

    A Boeing 757 and a fleet of armored cars for Michelle’s sight seeing tour!

    Michelle One

    On Sunday, President Obama flew back to the United States on Air Force One. His wife, two daughters and her mother did a bit of shopping in Paris before taking their own Boeing 757 (C-32) over to London to do some sight seeing.

    We all remember Obama’s admonishment to corporate CEO’s inFebruary:

    “You can’t get corporate jets, you can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers dime.”

    Apparently that doesn’t apply to his wife.

    TheLondon Timesopened it’s description of Michelle’s visit this way:

    Motorcycle outriders, armoured Chevrolets and bullet-headed men in raincoats criss-crossed London yesterday as Michelle Obama and her daughters spent a second day on an unofficial visit to the capital..

    The Times went on to describe that when Michelle and the girls arrived at Westminster Abbey, the building was closed to tourists with people already in told to “wait against the wall.” An American visiting the Abbey said “Right then I knew it was probably someone from our ‘royal family’.”

    Michelle’s motorcade shut down the London street above as the First Lady of the World and her children go for Fish and Chips at a pub in Mayfair . The entourage inside the restaurant was 15 people while dozens more wait outside. Include the dozens of Air Force personnel to fly and service the plane, embassy personnel and other staff and we are talking about a serious expenditure of tax payer dollars.

    Meanwhile, millions of Americans have lost their jobs and won’t be able to take their family on a summer holiday.

    Despite their circumstances they’ll still be expected to fork over the tax dollars to pay for Michelle’s trip.

    Can you imaging the GALL of this our First Family?


  186. Rey said,

    on July 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    This is a reply to Flowerchild2, if it’s really FC.

    Come on baby, kiss it! Kiss it!….hahahaha

    Now put your damn burkas back on, sit down and shut up!!!!

    Get back in the kitchen…..lol…I don’t get some of these women. No wonder some men that would like to support your cause are showing aversion. Have you drink the kool-aid lately?

  187. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    mmm…rey it doesn’t sound like you. The Rey we know was always respectful even when he disagreed. Sorry Rey, whoever you are, I refuse to drink the Republican kool-aid. I stand by what I said.

  188. on July 7th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    flower thats not rey at least not comment 157 is not him .

  189. on July 7th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    the rey we know whould not have made such sexist remarks ..

  190. Cindy said,

    on July 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Hey boogie— I’m back.
    did you hear that Sarah Palin is coming to texas to campaign for rick perry?
    I don’t care for perry, but i’m going to go to a rally just to hear her in person!! i admire her so much. ( the reason she’s stumping for him and not kay baily hutchison is that she and perry are old friends)

  191. on July 9th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Cindy thanks 4 the info i think palin will be very popular among Texas reps

  192. on July 10th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    was she 16 0r 17??

  193. on July 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    this give me so many good ideas for new names i can thing up for BO

  194. ozgal said,

    on July 10th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    As for the feminism discussion… this is a reasonably good post.. read the comments. By the way, I admire Palin and unlike so many sympathetic liberal commentators.. I would vote for her.

  195. Cindy said,

    on July 10th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    ozgal—I agree with you. I would definitely vote for her. She appointed a pro-choice feminist to the Alaska supreme court, so she is open-minded and not averse to apointing pro-choice women.
    and boogie—you are so damn funny!

  196. Cindy said,

    on July 11th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    yeah……me too.

  197. on July 11th, 2009 at 11:26 pm


    hillary the movie??

  198. Cindy said,

    on July 12th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    boogie—- the article says that the movie is about the clintons during the monica era. So, HBO will probably make it a very salacious movie. i’m not sure it will help hillary. why don’t they do a movie about jeremiah wright…… or bill ayers? now that’s what I’d like to see!
    thanks for the link.

  199. on July 12th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    yea i know what ya mean

  200. on July 12th, 2009 at 7:04 am

    good morning girls…..

  201. Cindy said,

    on July 12th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    check this out!
    sarah said:
    “I will go around the country on behalf of candidates who believe in the right things, regardless of their party label or affiliation,” she said over lunch in her downtown office, 40 miles from her now-famous hometown of Wasilla — population 7,000 — where she began her political career.

  202. on July 12th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    she really messing with there minds now .the good ole boys is really got to be scratching their heads on this move

  203. on July 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    I THINK THAT was a good move on her part . but I’m sure i wont be long before the MSM once again says its the end of her political career

  204. Cindy said,

    on July 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    you’re right boogie—i’m sure the msm is already calculating their strategy. it’s almost fun to watch them try and figure her out!
    can’t wait til tomorrow when the new time mag (with her picture on front) hits the news stands .

  205. Cindy said,

    on July 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    you’re right boogie—i’m sure the msm is already calculating their strategy. it’s almost fun to watch them try and figure her out!
    can’t wait til tomorrow when the new time mag (with her picture on front) hits the news stands .

  206. on July 12th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    your right it is kinda fun seeing them try & figure her out
    & they have no idea of what she is doing

  207. on July 13th, 2009 at 1:05 pm



  208. Cindy said,

    on July 13th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    boogie—-thanks for the link! I’ve read half of it, and it seems like a very positive article.

  209. on July 13th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    cindy when you do go to see palin . let us at hh know how it was. kinda give us a recap

  210. Cindy said,

    on July 13th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    sure thing, Boogie—
    hey, here’s something “ironical”, as they say in south austin:

    The reason the faux feminists in the Democratic Party hate Sarah Palin is because they believe she wants to overturn “Roe”……..
    the irony in today’s arrest is too funny for words ( in light of the Democrats who hate Sarah)

  211. Rey said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Pastor’s wife’s letter
    How’s this for apocalyptic literature. This was written by a pastor’s wife in biblical prose as a commentary of current events. It is Brilliant.


    And it came to pass in the Age of Insanity that the people of the land called America , having lost their morals, their initiative, and their will to defend their liberties, chose as their Supreme Leader that person known as “The One”.

    He emerged from the vapors with a message that had no meaning; but He hypnotized the people telling them, “I am sent to save you. My lack of experience, my questionable ethics, my monstrous ego, and my association with evil doers are of no consequence. For I shall save you with Hope and Change.

    Go, therefore, and proclaim throughout the land that he who preceded me is evil, that he has defiled the nation, and that all he has built must be destroyed.” And the people rejoiced, for even though they knew not what “The One” would do, he had promised that it was good; and they believed.

    And “The One” said “We live in the greatest country in the world. Help me change everything about it!” And the people said, “Hallelujah! Change is good!”

    Then He said, “We are going to tax the rich fat-cats.” And the people said “Sock it to them!” “And redistribute their wealth.” And the people said, “Show us the money!” And then He said, “Redistribution of wealth is good for everybody”

    And Joe the plumber asked, “Are you kidding me? You’re going to steal my money and give it to the deadbeats??” And “The One” ridiculed and taunted him, and Joe’s personal records were hacked and publicized.

    One lone reporter asked, “Isn’t that Marxist policy?” And she was banished from the kingdom!

    Then a citizen asked, “With no foreign relations experience and having zero military experience or knowledge, how will you deal with radical terrorists?”

    And “The One” said, “Simple. I shall sit with them and talk with them and show them how nice we really are; and they will forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!”

    And the people said, “Hallelujah!! We are safe at last, and we can beat our weapons into free cars for the people!”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall give 95% of you lower taxes.”

    And one, lone voice said, “But 40% of us don’t pay ANY taxes.”

    So “The One” said, “Then I shall give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!”

    And the people said, “Hallelujah!! Show us the money!”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall tax your Capital Gains when you sell your homes!”

    And the people yawned and the slumping housing market collapsed.

    And He said, “I shall mandate employer- funded health care for EVERY worker and raise the minimum wage. And I shall give every person unlimited healthcare and medicine and transportation to the clinics.”

    And the people said, “Give me some of that!”

    Then he said, “I shall penalize employers who ship jobs overseas.”

    And the people said, “Where’s my rebate check?”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall bankrupt the coal industry and electricity rates will skyrocket!”

    And the people said, “Coal is dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don’t care for that part about higher electric rates.”

    So “The One” said, “Not to worry. If your rebate isn’t enough to cover your expenses, we shall bail you out. Just sign up with ACORN and your troubles are over!”

    Then He said, “Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let’s grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches, free medical care, bilingual signs and guaranteed housing…”

    And the people said, “Hallelujah!!” And they made him King!

    And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers. Others simply gave up and went out of business and the economy sank like unto a rock dropped from a cliff. The banking industry was destroyed. Manufacturing slowed to a crawl. And more of the people were without a means of support.

    Then “The One” said, “I am the “The One” – The Messiah – and I’m here to save you! We shall just print more money so everyone will have enough!”

    But our foreign trading partners said unto Him, “Wait a minute. Your dollar is not worth a pile of camel dung! You will have to pay more…”

    And the people said, “Wait a minute. That is unfair!!”

    And the world said, “Neither are these other idiotic programs you have embraced. Lo, you have become a Socialist state and a second-rate power. Now you shall play by our rules!”

    And the people cried out, “Alas, alas!! What have we done?”

    But yea verily, it was too late.. The people set upon “The One” and spat upon him and stoned him, and his name was dung. And the once mighty nation was no more; and the once proud people were without sustenance or shelter or hope. And the Change “The One” had given them was as like unto a poison that had destroyed them and like a whirlwind that consumed all that they had built.

    And the people beat their chests in despair and cried out in anguish, “Give us back our nation and our pride and our hope!!” But it was too late, and their homeland was no more.

    You may think this is a fairy tale, but it’s not. It’s happening RIGHT NOW !!!

  212. Rey said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 8:53 am

    Is that the Rey you know Flowerchild? Lol…still love you ladies, but it’s getting close to raise hell again. Sign up to facebook.com and joined Sarah Palin group for an independent run, as rumor say……

  213. Cindy said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 9:15 am

    rey—- well, it seems that the “gospel according to doris’” (or whatever the preacher’s wife’s name is) sounds about right.

  214. Ginger said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Says that the video has been removed in violation… where can it be seen?

  215. Ginger said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    I am so sick of women bashing women. It’s still a free country where we can have opposing views and agree to disagree but we don’t need to bash and be despicable low-lifes to get the point across.

  216. Cindy said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    ginger—–what video are you talking about?

  217. on July 14th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    hmmmm something up rey if your the same guy that posted
    commet 197 your not the rey these girls ever knew or cared for.
    your just a bot & nothing more .

  218. on July 14th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    but im not sure that they rey that posted 196 & 227 are the same guy as the rey that posted 197

  219. Rey said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Same me, Boogsie……with a different attitude…..got to be able to laugh about these things or better off in exile…..lol. We can’t be doing the same thing and expect to get different result…..oooOOooo btw Flower…..I was merely teasing you, but I can see that it wasn’t taken lightly….I apologize. =))

  220. on July 14th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    obama kills totus

  221. Rey said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Hahaha…I’ve seen that….Love TOTUS acronym.

  222. Cindy said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    boogie—that is a scream! thanks.
    and hey, happy bastille day, everybody.
    we had our yearly celebration here at the house.
    bonne nuit, y’all.

  223. on July 14th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    hmmm how did you celebration cindy

  224. Cindy said,

    on July 14th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    well, it was tame this year because it was just me, my sister, my mother, my daughter and my year-old grandson.
    we sang la marsellaise, then watched a homemade movie we made on town lake in austin, over 30 years ago. it was a hoot—-we filmed it in front of the old firetower there at Congress and First St. ( the tower was our “bastille”).
    we have some French heritage in our family.

  225. on July 14th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    good to know

  226. Cindy said,

    on July 15th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    Sarah took-on barack and the cap and trade deal today in washington post…in case no one has linked this yet, here it is:

  227. on July 15th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    looks like she earned the renegade that time gave her
    on their cover

  228. Cindy said,

    on July 15th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    boogie—that’s exactly right.
    and the democrats were too in love with macbama to understand what a maverick sarah is (and john mccain, too)
    but hey, i’m tired of wiping their noses and babysitting that group (the dems). they need to grow up and stop acting like teenagers on drugs (and my apoplogies to teenagers everywhere)

  229. on July 15th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Hillary Clinton rips BOs ‘vetting’ process


  230. on July 15th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    our girl hill is back
    & looks like she kinda pissd on BO

  231. Cindy said,

    on July 15th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    hooray!!! I’m proud of her, as always.

  232. on July 15th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

    lets just say would not not want to be on BOs shoes right now

  233. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 15th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Evening, all. Boogie, I guffawed at loud at the “deceased” teleprompter. You think it has any resuscitation orders?

    Any word from Sista and Princess? My poor aching feet in my pricey “comfort” shoes after a long city day made me wonder how Sista is doing with her leg and feet.

    I guess at this age even the best shoes won’t make it through a whole day of concrete. Wonder how Hillary manages. She always seems to be wearing decorous pumps.

  234. Cindy said,

    on July 15th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    hey, backbay, welcome back….sorry about your feet. I’ll bet hillary wears “hushpuppies”. they still make cute pumps, yet comfy.
    boogie—-yummy…guacomole! i learned to make it when i was in school in okla. workin’ my way thru college as a waitress in a mex. restaurant. the cook taught me how to make it. and she was from san antonio, of course!

  235. on July 16th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    yea good to see ya back backbay
    hopefully we will hear something from princess or sis soon

  236. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm


    “Meanwhile, reports the Times, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger told Clinton that he knew of no other time when there seemed to be less tension between the State Department and White House.”

  237. on July 17th, 2009 at 8:19 am

    & buy the way love your new spash page… you i guess you could say that hes not that innocent…. & that probley a
    & its good to see ya back princess & sis

  238. on July 18th, 2009 at 12:03 am


  239. Cindy said,

    on July 18th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    boogie—thanks for the link……i can remember walter cronkite announcing live on television that jfk was dead. and we believed it because walter cronkite told us so.
    that made him an amercan icon from then on.

  240. on July 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    walter cronkite was pobley one of that last true news men
    not like these jokers that are in now

  241. Cindy said,

    on July 18th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    exactly. American journalism is dead.

  242. on July 18th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    yes walter cronkite reported the news. real news as it happened when it happened . now the new fools try & invent twist & make the news. they are more like stage actors. than journalist

  243. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 20th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Cindy when I saw Hillary up close, she was definitely not wearing Hushpuppies…maybe she keeps them in the car. If I had to guess, I would say she was wearing low heeled Ferragamos, maybe some Stuart W. as well, I’ve seen the same shoe on her in a black silk that gorgeous photo of her in the long gown at the Fashion awards, and also at a formal fundraiser. I’m sure Princess or Sista could identify them.

    Yet another instance of a very pretty well dressed woman who is connstantly insulted about her looks. When will this country grow up and realize beauty is not confined to twenty year olds?

  244. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 20th, 2009 at 2:58 pm


    Jimmy Carter Leaves Church Over Treatment of Women

  245. Cindy said,

    on July 20th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    backbay—thanks for the insight…you’re so right about hillary being a well-dressed woman insulted about her looks. and isn’t it funny how the same people who criticize her, criticize sarah palin? the democrats have never quite explained that one, but I’ll do it for them: they hate strong women!

  246. on July 20th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Back Bay on you shoe question il bet princess & sis already know

  247. on July 20th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Obama Third Least Popular President Since World War II


  248. Cindy said,

    on July 20th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    boogie, thanks for this link. wow! I hadn’t heard anything about this.

  249. on July 20th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    well looks like alot of people are going thru koolaid withdrawl

  250. Cindy said,

    on July 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    yep! that’s a good way to say it.

  251. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    You are so right Cindy. If you need any more examples, look at photos of Hillary during the 92-27 time period…the first term and the two campaigns. She was about the same age then as Sarah is now, and astonishingly pretty and well dressed, with her beautiful blond bob. Yet the media somehow convinced us she was a plain woman with no fashion sense whatsoever, and in our unconscious we probably thought so a little bit too.

    Now here’s the thing. Women in our early to mid- forties, are still sexual, still fertile, AND approaching the end or diminution of childbearing and raising, thus freeing up time for a serious career. We have also learned a lot by then and acquired a good deal of professional and life experience.

    That’s a powerful combo and very threatening to the current patriarchal power structure which is focussed on competition, aggression and acquisition, and only allows women a piece of the pie if we mimic those “values”.

    Now see the resemblance? It’s no accident the attacks are similar. Women in their forties are a veritable power machine, and certain powers that be dont’ like that.

  252. Cindy said,

    on July 21st, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    wonderfully stated, back bay! you should write a column.

  253. on July 21st, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    hillary & palin sure they are a threat to the good ole boys club . look for the attacks to get worse the closer it get 2 elect time

  254. Cindy said,

    on July 21st, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    you’re right, boogie….they’ll get much worse, if that’s possible.

  255. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Well, perhaps not the next time with Hillary. She finds herself in the position many former presidents have occupied…..Secretary of State. Breaking the glass ceiling is difficult as we have seen, but she’s the one to do it!!

  256. Rey said,

    on July 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Doctors Wage War Against Obama’s Health Care Overhaul


    Now this one is interesting


  257. Cindy said,

    on July 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    flowerchild—-don’t know if you missed it last year but the democratic powerhouse hates hillary. she could be queen of england for the next 3 years and come back and there’s still no way the dnc would support her or any woman ( that they can’t control)…. that was their message, and believe me, i received it loud and clear.
    so, screw the democrats. that’s my message back to them.

  258. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Really? She’s Secretary of State, the most powerful, key position in the cabinet. Who is trying to control her? And no I didn’t miss anything. The third woman ever is about to be confirmed a Supreme Court Justice; by those same according to you “women haters.” How do you explain this? There are 8 women on the cabinet. Are they weak? And who appointed them? The man on the moon?

  259. Cindy said,

    on July 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    flowerchild—- it’s too obvious to explain…….and yes, the democrats really do hate strong women.
    i don’t think you’re getting the overall picture. hillary is part of the obama administration. he and his people tell her what to say. sotomayor was nominated to ensure that we “women and minorities” have good feelings toward our new prez. they’re using women, not revering them. there’s a big difference.
    pay attention.

  260. on July 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    hi this is my take on sotomayor bo picked her for 3 reasons she a women & she Hispanic & votes . bo doesn’t not care about women he doesn’t care about you & me . i don’t think he even cares about sotomayor she just one more pawn his corrupted chess game call the DNC

  261. Cindy said,

    on July 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    boogie–you’ve hit the nail on the head! he is just using the sotomayor nomination to make himself look good. you are so right. i don’t want to be rude to flowerchild, but she must be very young to not see how obama is using women and minorities for his political purposes. he’s already running for 2012. depressing, isn’t it?

  262. on July 22nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    cindy your right it dose look like hes setting that him self up or getting ready to . he just got to road blocks in his way . Hillary & palin

  263. Cindy said,

    on July 22nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    boogie—-wouldn’t it be fantastic if hillary and sarah would run together?? they would represent all women, liberal and conservative….god, that would be too cool!

  264. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Thank you Cindy. I had something lighter in mind to submit to Sista or Princess. but am having a lot of work deadlines now. I’m playing hooky even to be here, but miss everyone.

  265. Back Bay Style said,

    on July 23rd, 2009 at 9:56 am

    BTW, Hillary will be on Meet the Press for an entire hour Sunday AM. That happens to be my birthday, and woe unto anyone who disturbs me, Hillary, and my Sunday morning coffee.

  266. Cindy said,

    on July 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am

    backbay—what a great way to spend your b’day! watching and listening to hillary in all of her glory.
    i hope you have a fabulous day on Sunday.
    (and don’t forget…i’m married to a trial lawyer, so i know how hard y’all work!)

  267. on July 23rd, 2009 at 10:43 pm


  268. Cindy said,

    on July 23rd, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    boogie—thanks for that link. i enjoyed listening. they all seem like nice, intelligent women, but I can’t get used to those yankee accents!
    god, jersey sounds like a mess, politically, doesn’t it?!

  269. on July 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am



  270. Cindy said,

    on July 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am


  271. Ginger said,

    on July 24th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    I see. So when MO said that she was confident that black America would “wake up” she, of course, wasn’t asking for that blacks support BO cuz he decided he’s black.

  272. Cindy said,

    on July 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    ginger— i ‘m not quite following what you’re saying.

  273. on July 25th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    ok its good to be back in been busy car shoping

  274. Cindy said,

    on July 25th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    boogie-hope you got yourself something nice—-re: politics—-did you read that a brick was thrown threw the window of a white woman’s 4 yr. old son’s bedroom in East Austin? it happened last night. East Austin used to be predominantly hispanic and black…now more whites are moving in. The brick that was thrown had a message ion it: ” keep the East side black! stay strong!”
    can you believe it? That woman’s little boy could have been killed, because he was there in his room.
    Obama should be ashamed about his racist remark to the white policeman……he is stirring up racism. what is he thinking?? it is unforgivable!

  275. on July 25th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    thx . & i agree with you . this is really stupid of BO 2 get the the middle of this. & did not here about that incident the happened in Austin

  276. on July 26th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    wow looks to be over a 100 again . now that a texas hot.
    with this texas summer in full force.in san antonio . one things for sure. princess you not the only one at hh with a killer tan .

  277. Cindy said,

    on July 26th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    boogie—isn’t it awful? we’re having to buy hay (for longhorns, horses, etc) daily. San antonio usually gets more rain than us, but not now!
    and here in town the poor deer are everywhere looking for food and water.

  278. on July 26th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Presidential Approval Index rating of -11.

    . That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory


  279. Rey said,

    on July 28th, 2009 at 9:04 am

    Subject: Quiz

    Guess WHO I AM?

    I was born in one country, raised in another. My father was born in another

    country. I was not his only child. He fathered several children with

    numerous women.

    I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me. My

    mother died at an early age from cancer.

    Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

    My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a legitimate,

    reliable birth certificate.

    I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was

    widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs &

    didn’t follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

    I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising

    myself as someone who really cared about them.

    That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and I

    embarked on a new career.

    I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those who

    read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned

    me as a child.

    I became active in local politics in my 30′s then with help behind the

    scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office

    in my 40s.. They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into

    anything.. That reinforced my conceit.

    I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no

    experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful speaker

    and citizens were drawn to me as though I were a magnet and they were small

    roofing tacks.

    I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This bolstered

    my ego.

    At first, my political campaign focused on my country’s foreign policy. I

    was very critical of my country in the last war and seized every opportunity

    to bash my country.

    But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the

    country’s economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could

    do better and every poor person would be fed & housed for free.

    I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It was

    the free market, banks & corporations. I decided to start making

    citizens hate them and if they were envious of others who did well, the plan

    was clinched tight.

    I called mine “A People’s Campaign” and that sounded good to all people.

    I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional

    path of politics & was able to gain widespread popular support.

    I knew that, if I merely offered the people ‘hope’ , together we could

    change our country and the world.

    So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the

    downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include “persecuted minorities” like the

    Jews. My true views were not widely known & I needed to keep them

    unknown, until after I became my nation’s leader.

    I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out

    what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined

    those people I associated with.

    I’m glad they didn’t. Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

    And the world learned the truth.

    *Who am I? *



    Scary isn’t it?

  280. Rey said,

    on July 28th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    I received this previously from a questionable source. I thought it was just another right winger quoting some ex-pat living in Russia trying to discredit our leadership so I discarded it. This time it was from a more credible source; so I checked it out. It really is an editorial from PRAVDA.

    This is lengthy but interesting.

    The article below was written by Stanislav Mishin, a blogger and columnist for the Russian newspaper Pravda.
    American capitalism gone with a whimper . . . . . It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

    True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

    Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

    First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather than the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas than the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their “right” to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us (Russia) about our rights and about our “democracy”. Pride blinds the foolish.

    Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different “branches and denominations” were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the “winning” side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the “winning” side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox (Russian Orthodox) churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

    The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America’s short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more than another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

    These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more than ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

    These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.

    Then came Barack Obama’s command that GM’s (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of “pure” free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

    So it should be no surprise that the American president has followed this up with a “bold” move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK’s Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our “wise” Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

    Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper…but a “freeman” whimper.

    So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set “fair” maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

    The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

    The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

    Stanislav Mishin

  281. on July 28th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    whos Stanislav Mishin ??

  282. on July 29th, 2009 at 8:05 am

    on a side note i think that BO may have defeated to own health care plan . with his remarks about police when he pretty much stereo typed them as all rouge cops . now police Unions across the country are pissed at him. . note all the blue dog Dem’s pretty much drooped the votes soon for his health care plan after he made those remarks . & unison’s are very important especially if your a Dem when election time come back around

  283. Cindy said,

    on July 29th, 2009 at 10:46 am

    boogie— i hadn’t made the connection until you mentioned it….
    i think it’s funny that the blue dog dems were created by rahm emanuel, and now they’re turning on Obama!

  284. on July 29th, 2009 at 10:58 am



  285. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 29th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Great article Boogie!! As I posted before, she is in the position many presidents have occupied – Secretary of State. I liked what she said on Meet the Press on Sunday…that yes, she would like to see a woman president in her life time, but it has to be the right woman, and hopefully from her own party. My sentiments exactly!!

  286. Cindy said,

    on July 30th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    flowerchild—–hillary doesn’t need any kind of position, like sec’y of state, to make her any more credible as a presidential candidate. she already had that, as you know. what she needed/needs is a political party which appreciates her, respects her, and is not afraid of strong, intelligent women; unfortunately for her, that political party is Not the democratic party. therein lies the problem.

  287. on July 30th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    cindy i think that hillary being SOS dose look a littel more credible as a presidental candate . it gives alot more experance than can help her when she runs again . but i think to all of us she more than credible enfo

  288. Cindy said,

    on July 31st, 2009 at 12:56 am

    boogie–yeah, i agree—but hillary really doesn’t have to prove anything to millions of her fans. my point is that all of the credibiltiy in the world won’t help if the good ol’ boys don’t want her, and cheat her out of another nomination. that’s the depressing part.
    look at that “beer summit” today. such a good ol’ boy thing. such a “jock” thing. totally exclusive of women. they couldn’t invite one woman? even a black one? not even a wise latina?
    they are so full of themselves, and, unfortunately, they’re in control of the democratic party and the country and are not about to give up the power they have.
    this is a patriarchy. no girls invited. (unless they say so)

  289. Cindy said,

    on July 31st, 2009 at 1:11 am

    p.s. to boogie—- i just thought of one more thing regarding credibilty..remember last year…. and it was obama who had very little credibilty? half the country didn’t even know who he was! but the patriarchal sexist demagogues in the democratic party decided that he was the one who could kill hillary’s chances, and he’d do it by appealing to white liberal guilt. when hillary supporters stood strong and gave her more votes than anyone in primary history, the dnc went to “plan b”, which was to cheat and steal the nomination. that’s why i say it really wasn’t a question of credibiltiy, but of power. and the good ol chicago political machine boys were, and still are in power. that’s our challenge: to break that powerful patriarchal machine, somehow!

  290. Flowerchild2 said,

    on July 31st, 2009 at 8:24 am

    I did not state or imply in any way shape, or form that Hillary NEEDS to be SOS to become president. I was simply stating a historical fact, that many former secretaries have become president. She is ready right now to become president, with or without this post.

  291. Cindy said,

    on July 31st, 2009 at 10:06 am

    flower—that’s what I thought you meant. i think you misunderstood me, too. sorry.
    boogie– i hope the good ol’ boys are coming to an end, too!

  292. Cindy said,

    on August 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 am

    lol, boogie. maybe princess could use that song on the next slpash page. that’s great!

  293. Cindy said,

    on August 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 am

    Michael Crowley at the New Republic, says in this article that Obama is so “hands on” that he’s actually been his own Sec’y of State and National security Advisor!
    Also, the national Parks service tested the soil in the new garden that Michelle O. and some schoolchildren put on the White House lawn….and the soil tested postive for high levels of lead! Jeeze! haven’t they been serving those veggies and herbs to visiting dignitaries?

  294. on August 4th, 2009 at 2:07 am

    its the big dawg to the recuse


  295. Cindy said,

    on August 4th, 2009 at 2:40 am

    booghie—–yes, we should party!!—–did you hear about the “party” the South Austinites gave Rep. Lloyd Doggett over the weekend? Too funny!
    he’s such a turncoat against Hillary….did it right Before the Texas primary, when he had led us all to believe she was his gal!
    thanks for the link to “big dawg” bill’s korean trip. god, i miss him.

  296. Cindy said,

    on August 4th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    bill clinto gets the girls in n. korea released!! send a clinton if you want things done!

  297. Back Bay Style said,

    on August 4th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Not only released but a meeting with Kim! Now, what did Hillary say she would do if elected? Send Bill out as an international ambassador to help rehabilitate our image. And what is Bill doing now? So who really won here?

  298. Cindy said,

    on August 4th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    you’re so right, backbay.
    i feel like doing the dr. elliott reed (scrubs) “i told you so” dance!

  299. on August 4th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    looks like when the big dawg speaks things get done

  300. Cindy said,

    on August 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    exactly, boogie.
    you want a job done right? send in the clintons.

  301. on August 4th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    in 2012 she will be win . you can bet on it

  302. Cindy said,

    on August 4th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    i appreciate your optimism!

  303. Flowerchild2 said,

    on August 5th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    That Bill…ya gotta love him!!

  304. Flowerchild2 said,

    on August 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    from an article about the release and arrival:

    “Thirty hours ago, Ling said, “We feared that any moment we could be sent to a hard labor camp.”

    Then, she said, they were taken to another location.

    “When we walked through the doors, we saw standing before us President Bill Clinton,” she said to applause. “We were shocked but we knew instantly in our hearts that the nightmare of our lives was finally coming to an end, and now we stand here, home and free.”

    Clinton came down the stairs to applause. He hugged Gore at the foot of the stairs, then chatted with family members.

  305. Cindy said,

    on August 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    flower—isn’t that one of the most uplifting stories you’ve heard in a while?
    Looooooooove those clintons!

  306. on August 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    yes it one of the few good storys that have happend latley

    power 2 the big dawg

    like i said before never underestimate a Clinton

  307. on August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm


  308. on August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Quote by Thomas Jefferson: “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

  309. Cindy said,

    on August 6th, 2009 at 12:19 am

    oh, wow, boogie—-what a great quote! that says it all.

    i know people who are going to those “town hell meetings” and believe me, they are not republican activists. they are displaced democrats who are mad as hell! i think it’s incredible, and healthy for a democracy.

  310. on August 6th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    these politicians better sit up & take notice of what the people are telling them at these town halls . if these politicians go off on there own & do the opposite the people that they represent tell then to do…. then we see that other great American tradition come election time .. throw the bums out….

  311. Flowerchild2 said,

    on August 6th, 2009 at 9:00 am

    yes, Cindy, it brought tears to my eyes hearing and seeing the emotions and gratidute of these journalists; the joy of their families.

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