hireheels asks: where’s the tofu? (beef is so ’80′s)
As we prepare for the coronation Democratic National Convention, it’s becoming painfully clear that lots of the Dem faithful are growing uneasy about the anointed one presumptive nominee. You can’t swing a dead cat over your head without hearing how worried Dem-leaning folks are that Obama’s not cleaning the floor with McCain in this of all years, the one in which a Democratic corpse should be 20 points ahead of any Republican.
I was chatting earlier this week with the delightful Sista Christian Louboutin when it finally hit us: the plain, boiled-down essence of why we distrust Obama. Despite all of our cute catch-phrases and sarcastic similes, the truth is we’ve seen him change his policies and positions whenever it benefits him to do so. There doesn’t appear to be any core belief holding up his positions, no anchor, no foundation. Like Gertrude Stein said about old Oakland, California, there’s no “there” there.
Think we’re kidding? Try these on for size:
He said he’d use public financing for his campaign when he didn’t have a lot of money. Then he reneged when he started raising tons of money privately.
He said he disapproved of offshore drilling, until supporting it helped him fight John McCain’s growing popularity on the issue.
He was a constitutional scholar, but voted for the FISA reauthorization act which gutted the 4th amendment and any shreds of privacy against government intrusion you had left, and giving AT&T, Verizon and the big telecoms immunity from lawsuits for spying on your every cell phone call, text and e-mail since the beginning of the Avignon presidency Bush II administration.
Obama said he represented a new, inspiring, transformational kind of politics free from the ugliness of the past. Then he used plenty of old-school Chicago dirty tricks to bully his way into winning the caucuses and blocking Clinton voters from primary polls, and he still pretended that he was above it all. (The people you’ll see on The Audacity of Democracy will make you cry about how this one.)
Now he’s proposing changes to the primary and caucus system, after he got everything he needed strong-arming the caucuses.
And, lest we forget, Obama said his candidacy represented hope and change. Well, he certainly didn’t break a sweat trying to change the virulent misogyny and sexism that were so acceptable as public discourse during this primary season. If he had, he might have given a glimmer of hope to millions of us who have been told to sit down, shut up and behave, rather than the valuable citizens, voters and experienced political trench workers we are.
Let me remind you, PUMAs: we ARE valuable. We ARE citizens. And we have the right and the moral obligation to call bullshit on the Democratic National Committee for enabling Obama in thinking he’s the second coming of JFK instead of the self-serving salesman we see. And if the powers that be won’t give us the respect we deserve, we’ll take it–and our 18 million votes with it.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 am
oh please, that is the lamest oldest argument going ladies. Tell me you haven’t changed you mind about a position you’ve taken. that is all women do is change there minds, that is why men get so frustrated and leave to go the sports bars so we don’t have to listen to every thought that comes across your head while your chatting with your girlfriends.
I gave you your day off, now its game on.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 9:47 am
Girls, I can’t remember, was there sniper fire first or no sniper fire and then when we landed there was sniper fire.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:03 am
you girls seem to have a good memory, did hillary first support giving drivers licenses to illegals before she opposed the idea or was it the other way around…hmm…thats a tuffy…
in other news, the bush administration has set a deadline for withdrawl from Iraq in 2011 which shows that judgement has trumped experience once again.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
You all sound just like the Republicans. I’m thinking that is exactly who you are in disguise. You are all so good at lies and disguise.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
BTW, for a group that is supposed to influence this election, you are not that large. I’ve seen sewing circle groups with more action.
Just a group of disgruntled people who have no conscience.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:24 am
“Let me remind you, PUMAs: we ARE valuable. We ARE citizens. And we have the right and the moral obligation to call bullshit on the Democratic National Committee for enabling Obama in thinking he’s the second coming of JFK instead of the self-serving salesman we see. And if the powers that be won’t give us the respect we deserve, we’ll take it–and our 18 million votes with it.”
You are not 18 million strong. You probably less than 100,000 strong. Most of that 18 million has moved on. I know, as I was one of them and I worked hard, raised money and had thousands of people to commune with. We are now backing Obama because he is the nominee. Do I wish it were different? Yes, but i’m a realist and that is how you change the world. Please stop believing you have 18 million behind you. The polls say no you don’t. It’s a ridiculous claim.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:31 am
great post minxie! he also reversed his stance on the strategic oil reserve. and what’s with the pandering to evangelicals? that’s not the progressive candidate obama that i knew.
for the trolls: you’re only here because we’re effective.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 am
Good to see that BO’s paid bloggers are back earning their keep. By the way,do any of you work for ACORN, or are you paid by one of the front companies now under investigation for possible money launderng?
I don’t really want to fight with you-all, you probably are really enchanted with BO. He is the first black american to make it this far. I know our culture keeps telling you that it isn’t how you play the game, it’s whether you win or lose. That is just a t-shirt slogan. It is how you play the game, it is how you treat other people. Your ancestors knew that, be they black or white. Your ancestors built a country that was based on democracy, and treating other people with respect, be they black or white. If you haven’t learned these things yet, that is a shame, but you will eventually, and until then, go home and live others to their conversations.
If you want to stay and be part of the interplay, then draw on the best of what your mothers and fathers taught you, be they black or white, humility, understanding, respect, and thoughtfullness. If you want to take me on, feel free, I have learned those things.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:43 am
that is all women do is change there minds, that is why men get so frustrated and leave to go the sports bars so we don’t have to listen to every thought that comes across your head while your chatting with your girlfriends.
The women I know don’t date ignorant, sexist assholes who think the statement I just quoted from you is funny. (We also like men who can spell.) Therefore, I find it hard to believe that you’re among that “we.” Nice try, t-bone, but you’re just not in our league. Maybe if you take your vitamins and learn some manners, someday a really cool woman might take you under her wing.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:45 am
T-Bone Said, ” in other news, the bush administration has set a deadline for withdrawl from Iraq in 2011 which shows that judgement has trumped experience once again.”
I hope you’re not referring to Obama making this judgement call. This Judgement is base on General Patreus assistment, not Obama, who would like to take credit upon someone’s accomplishment, which really are due to the surge. You can’t just make claim without substance T-bone, you guys are looking like idiots every time you open your mouth, and that’s a good thing for us who doesn’t sympathize the anointed one.
As for your mockery of the opposite gender. You’re not swaying anyone here for BO if that is your objective and you my Friend have a very low opinion of the opposite sex, which doesn’t surprise me none from an obot.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:48 am
so piper which hillary position do you support, the one where she said she was for torture or the one later where she was against it? seeing that you gals are into heels, I didn’t want to assume.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
t-Bone, Nicki and Anna. Okay, so we are not large, not enough to make any difference…then why do you keep coming on this site and harrassing us instead of going to all the hate Hillary and bash HIllary and us over there?
As you all have pointed out; we are insignificant in number and won’t make a difference. Then quit whining, complaining, lecturing, and all the other things you do. We can and will make up our own minds – this is not our first election. Did someone harrass you and put you down to get your support for Obama? It’s Obama’s job to get our votes, not yours, and not Senator Clintons. So far he has failed, but when and if he changes my mind, I will let you know. But…I wouldn’t worry about it, it’s only one vote.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 am
You are not 18 million strong. You probably less than 100,000 strong. Most of that 18 million has moved on. I know, as I was one of them and I worked hard, raised money and had thousands of people to commune with.
Ya they move on alright, to God’s ole Party. Liars……Polls are good indication of where they moving to….lol.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:53 am
Good Point, Flowerchild…….
on August 22nd, 2008 at 10:56 am
sounds like I hit a little too close to home huh minx? sorry didn’t mean to get personal. i think it is kind of funny that your supporters include all these conspiracy theorists who are convinced obama is managing to knock off all the hrc supporters. but if that is your kind of folk, this is america after all…
on August 22nd, 2008 at 11:16 am
Hey, Princess, great interview last night. And, I almost caught a glimpse of the Chris Matthews that I used to enjoy watching, before he got the tingles. Anyhow, have a great trip to Denver.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 11:27 am
princess you realy ace,st it on the awsome interview with Matthews & realy the obama,nits pissed .
good job
on August 22nd, 2008 at 11:34 am
good to see your back princess safe and sound.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
so gals, did you support the hillary who said she would meet with syrian and iranian leaders or the hillary who said she wouldnt meet with them?
so many questions, and so few answers…what gives gals?
on August 22nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
come on t-bone you at least put some substance behind your post new talking points something . i mean you are back on your meds again right.
go hillary
on August 22nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
and do we support the anti-nafta hillary or the hillary who went to the world economic forum in davos switzerland to congratulate the corporations for pushing through nafta legislation?
on August 22nd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
whouldnt it been funny if who ever the pied piper ask to be his vp .
they get up on national TV and say. no thanks I’m good
lol
go hillary
on August 22nd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
tbone, it’s princess….u know i have a soft spot for u — why else would ur name still be gracing our pages….
that said, please behave….i don’t appreciate any identity theft on my blog….u can chime in with your views – but when you start messin’ with my peeps, ur outta here.
and btw, i am not a republican, but have been known to date a few in my life
makes for good, ah, banter!
on August 22nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm
minxie — outstanding analysis, as usual …. why so many are so shocked by the polls is frankly what shocks me….we saw this coming and i wouldn’t be surprised if obama, in a last minute desperate move, chooses clinton as his veep.
boogie – thanks ….
princess is safe until denver — heading out this afternoon — i’ll see u all later if tbone doesn’t scare u off by then
on August 22nd, 2008 at 1:07 pm
identity theft? that sounds so serious…i was mostly just messing with boogie cause he never makes any sense. but its all tbone all the time from now on.
btw princess, the matthews outfit was much better than the fox and friends black dress fiasco…2 thumbs up.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Seeing that there is only a few of us, I guess it doesn’t really matter why we don’t trust Obama. But if I had to guess, I’d say it was because he’s not trustworthy. As for why I won’t vote for Obama, I’d have to say, it’s because he sucks. But again, that’s just a guess.
Riiiiiiiight.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
ya know tbone, i was trying to look like an obama supporter the first time
on August 22nd, 2008 at 1:13 pm
lol
on August 22nd, 2008 at 1:33 pm
t-bone i guess u still havent learned post 25 . you never rip a women on what they where. I.WOULD be surprised if you make it thru the night .
on August 22nd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
t-bone: Boogie makes a lot of sense all the time. He hits home and that’s what irritates you. But I have to agree with Princess, you are not all that bad although your name hijacking was plain stupid.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
its a downright tbone luvfest today!…and minxy doesnt think i have a chance with the ladies…
i’m just trying to help princess take her game up a notch boog. she is going into hostile territory next week and she has got to look good.
“all the time” flower? i don’t think so…
on August 22nd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
princess one last thought about your interview last night.
you went into the lions den & came out smelling like the rose we all knew you where.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
GREAT POST! Don’t let the Obamamaniacs get to you…keep it up!! You are one of the few speaking truthfully about what went down.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
t-bone nice try.on post 31 . but i still think you have a death wish . there are just certain things you dont saY to women take it from GUY THATS BEEN AROUND.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Easy ….guys, she got the look of a predator and a prey……lol. Unless you want one….
on August 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
NICE TRY t-bone on post 31 . but i still think you got a death wish .there are certain things you just dont say to women take it from a guys thats been around.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 3:14 pm
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/22/obama-stops-advertising-in-red-battleground-states/
Wonderful, Obama is cutting his ads in the battleground states and that includes FL!! We mute it when he comes on.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
On MSNBC last night – Chris Matthews and DIane of PUMA — showed current poll numbers – if election held today: Hillary 49 and McCain 41 (Hillary has gained support since spring even tho she hasn’t even been campaigning!!) Obama and McCain was 45 – 43 (within margin of error and most importantly Obama’s been losing numbers and the gap is very narrow).
And this was MSNBC! Great clip to watch!
on August 22nd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Actually the reason I am here is because I saw Hardball yesterday and was appalled by Diane and the fact that Matthews gave this any airtime. I wanted to see what was really going on here. Now I’m not too concerned.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
BTW, I am having a discussion with you all. I just disagree with how you are dealing with things and stating my position. Isn’t that democracy at work?
on August 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
In regards to: “that is all women do is change there minds”
You know Obama fits that pattern; maybe thats why he won’t show his birth certificate and why certain TV pundits get a warm feeling down the leg in “his” presence; maybe Obama was born a girl and had a change!
on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Obama’s birth certificate:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Anna, the problem with “stating your position = democracy at work,” blah, blah, blah, is that you weren’t invited to a debate. Trying to impose your will by turning this forum into a conflict of any sort is rude. Other than that, no problem. And that’s just MY opinion, since it’s not my blog.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
The reason Matthews gave Diane air time is because the MSM rats are beginning to desert the sinking ship that is Obama. The down ticket Dems will be revolting too because they’re uneasy about his jeopardizing their chances.
It’s amazing what a small two-month old grassroots organization has achieved with just a handful of really brilliant, gutsy, and ethical Pumas.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
achieved?
this group and your kind will be remembered as a footnote of the next great president of the u.s.
* although hillary and her kind did the best they could to thwart the chosen one, they failed.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
If you are going to go on air be prepared for some debate. What some are doing here is like high school. Seriously it is so appalling to me to see such ugliness directed at Obama. He may not be your choice and you certainly have the right to vote for whomever you choose but please, play fair. He won the nomination in the arena that is out political system. I hate the system but it is what we have. I doubt you are going to impact it at all. I’ll get back to you after the convention.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
t-bone if you have any interesting policy information to share I’d like to read it. senator obama is not entitled to my vote, he has to urn it. stop harassing people on this blog and that goes for you too anna. I pay the bills here, and I can end the vitriol when I see fit. this is not a public forum, so play nice. I have no problem with an honest policy debate, but needless pot shots solve nothing. they certainly won’t help your candidate glean any votes. you will not win anyone over by behaving uncivilly. have a nice evening. well observed points minx. thanks to the rest of you who have held down the fort while I have been traveling. you can catch me spoofing on the daily show next week. i am finally able to make appearances after the accident. i’m on the last leg of the trip to the mile high city (and on one leg). take care and be safe all— that goes for you trolls too, i wish you no harm. But be advised… No matter how many death threats I receive, and no matter how many horrid names you call me, I’m not going anywhere until we clean up the corrupt voting processes in this country. it is a disgrace.
— scl
on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Anna: I don’t see any hate here for Obama. I have yet to see anyone even post that they “hate” Obama. As far as debate, these ladies and gentlemen are well prepared for debate. The debate has been going on for quite a long time. I am sure you are an intelligent person and also experienced in politics. This is why it amazes and baffles me personally that anyone intelligent could actually fall for this past primary season and not be as out raged as we are.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
riddle me this scl, why is only obama flip-flop info “valid” here? I have pointed out a number of hrc flops and not a single one was responded to.
democracy by its nature will disenfranchise the losers. it can’t be helped. hrc and o both had a fair shot the nomination. hrc came in the favorite and blew it by her own actions. for some reason you folks want to hold that against obama. princess touts “experience / lack of” as the culprit when she means the media, or mysoginy that she is all up in arms about.
this nomination is truly historical in nature. our party has nominated the first aa in history. he “earned” more delegates than hrc. she dismissed caucuses as important. she even considered skipping Iowa? that is just crazy and mismangement on her part.
so i find it hard to belive that “experience” is the reason folks are so upset here. no on, inlcuding me could name 5 things george bush accomplished as govenor of texas. its a ridicolous argument. so i can only conclude that your mad about the media, mysoginy, hrc ability to manage a quarter of a billion dollars or racism against o. which is it?
on August 22nd, 2008 at 5:33 pm
thanx for being our voices !
yes we are democrats.
yes we will not vote for obama.
yes we will not be sad to see a democratic loss in november.
yes our number may not be huge, but sure, we will have an impact.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 5:57 pm
princess dominated chris “tingle” last night. i wonder if he was stunned at obama’s sagging poll numbers or intimidated by princess’ smarts and good looks.
manolo, i used to wonder whether obama was a centrist who masqueraded as a progressive during the primaries or the other way around. now i see he’s just an opportunist.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
T-bone you little pile of …well that would not be pagan or christian of me ….please we are still morning here you are an uninvited guest-and I am sorry your doctor did not renew your viagra perscription and that the enzyte did not work!
You want me to get out the leash and collar and wip? I mean I can restart our “special” training lessons.
fuzzybeargville
on August 22nd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
OH good post you are so right on!
fuzzybeargville
on August 22nd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
oh michael, i was hoping you would post your extremely long, drawn out, boring prayer again…
on August 22nd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
T-bone, I’ve ask this question before without an answer from you or any obots. Why did the SD endorse BO on the state that she won prior to her suspension of the campaign? lol….you obots like to delute the truth with your rethoric and justification of the “one” mistake.
democracy by its nature will disenfranchise the losers.
I disagree. Manipulating the caucus, ignoring the voters voices, blocking Michigan and Florida is the act that disenfranchise the party before there was a Presidential nominee. These are the things that we saw, while you guys encourage it to your favor. This is not about democracy, this is about our separate way of thinking and what we hold true. You guys need to open your eyes instead of just saying we are the losers. Like it or not, we all have to live with the end result and as an American, there are no winner or loser when it comes to our country.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
loser
on August 22nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
now now kids — princess pleads with all of u to play nice — be sure to watch fox & friends tom 9est…robin of hillarygrassrootscampaign is on …
@ Miami int’l trying to get off the ground but Fay may hv different plans for me
Thx for all the sweet commnts – chris was exceptionally fair to me – I had to confront him on the sexism – had to!!!!
I wrote about matthews in my 1st post here – anyway, it was nice to hv all that time without being cutoff as most interviewers do…
BTW — isn’t it ironic that the obama camp flicked off Hillary and now he needs her !!!
on August 22nd, 2008 at 6:53 pm
I just heard on the plane that obama picked “some guy from Texas” — will try to confirm ( ps … The women were obama supporters and did not sound happy …LOL )
on August 22nd, 2008 at 7:28 pm
“the one” is amassing cell phone numbers with this text message announcement stunt. then he can text them and ask for $$. at his stadium coronation we will tell the bots to text all their friends.
latest rumors are back to bayh and biden. the texas guy is rep. chris edwards.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 7:31 pm
whoops, chet edwards.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 8:18 pm
texas guy hhmmmmm
no thanks . im good ill pass
go hillary
on August 22nd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
tbone you think jsnd & puma are just footnotes you go & keep telling yourself that. where the footnote thats gona tilt this election to mccain
the footnote that gona bring demcracy back to the demcratic party
go hillary
on August 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Princess: are you cruisin’ @ 37 thou yet? You all stay safe, stay together, and sock it to ‘em!!
So I am hearing the buzz …vp is Chet Edwards? Is that the man on Matthews show, who couldn’t list one of O’s accomplishments, and just stared off into the camera like a deer caught in headlights? If it’s him – - – ROLF ROLF ROLF
on August 22nd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
have a nice flight princess
on August 22nd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Bayh, Kaine both just turned him down lets see biden did them same day before yesterday. . nobody wants to be on that sinking ship
on August 22nd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Just quickly, since I have a big day at the beach coming up tomorrow:
Princess, thank you for introducing Chris Matthews to truth and common sense.
Michael, thank you for your prayers. They’re inspirational and powerful.
T-Bone, thank you for your persistence. I thought you had been downgraded to T-burger, but don’t feel bad. The Repugs have now downgraded O to mincemeat so you’re in better shape than he is.
Thanks to everyone going to Denver:
Be safe. Be careful. Kick ass.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm
have a safe flight to all the girls of hh who will be in denver wish i could be there with you.
go pumas
on August 22nd, 2008 at 9:23 pm
t-bone you are a jacka$$ my prayer was a heartfelt expression of loss. I would have expected a comment like your’s to come from a republican…
so from now on I shall refer to you as the “republican t-bone who had his his heart removed along withyour brain” you are a guttless coward just like all the obats now it is time to pay and not just to obama’s constant text messages for cash!
On november 5th there will be wailing and nashing of teeth when t-bone the heartless faux republican has to suffer through obama’s (also a stealth republican) defeat to the maverick John Mccain….
I may allow you to join the Draft hillary2012 campaign but you must first admit all your sins against the lovely people here at hireheels…
until then my little troll republican heartles brainless obama spunge t-bone go bacj to Yes to democracy and hand with the koolais drinkers…
fuzzybeargville
on August 22nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
sorry t-bone hang with the koolaid drinkers…
fuzzybeargville
on August 22nd, 2008 at 9:27 pm
t-bone the faux republican without a brain or a heart was probably an ss officer in his past life…a little nazi alot nutzy-you are channeling your hate from a past life into this one as shirley mclaine says let go move on…
fuzzybeargville
on August 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
SO FUZZY LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE,NT BLOWN AWAY AFTER ALL
on August 22nd, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Just wanted to share this to all HH folks. My young Bro came home today from Iraq, I wasn’t expecting him till next month but, he surprise me when I open the door. Sneaky bastard….lol.
on August 22nd, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Hey tbone, nicci and anna: point to your head and spell out the abbreviation for mountain.
hahahahaha!
Go PUMA! See you in Denver!
on August 22nd, 2008 at 11:58 pm
GOOD FOR YOU REY . HOPEFULLY HE WONT HAVE TO GO BACK
on August 23rd, 2008 at 12:01 am
Another Clinton Delegate Openly Supports John McCain
http://hireheels.com/blog/2008/08/22/hireheels-asks-wheres-the-tofu-beef-is-so-80s/#comment-6135
on August 23rd, 2008 at 12:29 am
Sorry about the link on that last post. Here’s another one that you might find interesting.
http://thecommonconservative.com/?p=123
on August 23rd, 2008 at 1:00 am
LETS SEE if it gets any legs. to bad the media wont pick it up.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 1:02 am
this just in the chosen one picked biden,
i have just lost all respect for him .
on August 23rd, 2008 at 1:19 am
what a hypocrite obama is . remember he warned everyone all his cool aid drinking followers you don’t want a Washington insider you don’t want poltics as usual bidens been the the senate for something like 37 years . and then he gose an pick somebody that he fits the bill of a washington insider
hes everything that the chosen has warned you about if biden accepts then he profits from obamas rigging of the system.
go hillary
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:27 am
What’s with all the misinformed, ignorant trolls? Diane, you are my hero and I can’t wait to meet you in Denver. Looks like it’s Obam bin Biden. Boy, will those two go down in flames. Please Hillary unsuspend and save us from President McCain.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:31 am
yes they will both .
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:36 am
i wish i could be there with 2 you to puma-sf im sure princess flight has already landed . now we just got to get the word out.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:39 am
Boogie, I am so glad that he did and I hope he will accept the vp. YESSSSS….the rest of the story will soon unfold. I know you are hopeful for hillary but, I think this is best IMHO.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:39 am
have you been to riverdaughters blog today. check out the tralier of the doc that they show in denver
go hillary
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:40 am
what rest of the story
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 am
OBAMA Bin Lyin…lol…what a line!
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 am
I wish you were going to be there as well. I’m going to miss the premiere Sunday night but I hope to make to Cheesman Park and be a part of the festivities there. I bought a Flip today so SimoFish and I will be sending videos to SM to post. I am just so proud to be a part of this movement.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:43 am
its going to be kinda a hrad sell now that the pied pier has chosen biden . bidens they kind of guy obama warned all you obama-aid drinkers out there
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:46 am
me to im very proud to be part of it.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 am
there supposed to be a live feed to some of that on jsnd. homepage i think soon
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:51 am
good morning boogie. biden, huh. that’s rather anti-climatic.
i can’t wait to see the blogger boyz in the fauxgressive blogosphere turn themselves into pretzels trying to explain why biden is a good pick, especially after using Hillary’s AUMF vote to justify their hillary hate. why is biden’s judgment on iraq any better than hillary’s? biden is also beholden to the banking industry, which kind of blows that whole ‘no special interests’ thing that o had going out of the water.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:52 am
I think you’re right plus the Puma blog site is going to have daily/hourly updates as well. Plus Sheri will be doing her radio show from there as well.
I love that the Repubs are already starting in about everything Biden said about Obama during the campaign and debates. It’s almost laughable. Well, it is laughable. Are you on the West Coast?
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:55 am
im in san antonio texas
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:58 am
plagiarism
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 am
yes piper me to . i cant wait to see what t-bone & the other obama-nits how they are going to try & sell this one.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 am
I’m already dizzy from all the spin.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:03 am
boggie, you’re up late but I think we’re all sleep deprived.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:03 am
Again, it’s true what they say about a bird of a feather ……..in this case it’s called plagiarism kindna guys.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:04 am
The right wingers are going to have lots of fun with this two clowns.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 am
Begala just called him O’biden.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 am
yea this is going to be good . they also have to expalin how it was good judgement to vote for the fisa bill. when biden voted against it
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 am
you got it my friend.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:09 am
thats preety good Puma-SF . i like that o’biden im gona have to rember that one.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 am
I’m off to bed. Good night, y’all.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:14 am
i think this is going to be a very intresting week . with the convention comming up & the chosen ones new sidekick o,biden.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:15 am
ya, I like that better as well. kindna give ya a nice black irish ring to it….lol. I’m sure someone will holler racist on that remark but I don’t care, their ghey.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:16 am
did’nt biden already say he didnt want the job.?
whell im gona catch somes zzzzzzzzzzz to later.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 7:52 am
Message sent to Michael Brown on Fox@Friends – today @ 8:03 AM….
DON’T SPEAK FOR ALL DEMOCRATS, MICHAEL. You don’t know what ALL the Americans think. You don’t know what ALL Americans want. Clarify who you are speaking about. Be clear – - Speak for your Obama supporters and leave the Clinton Democrats out of it!! Yes, I said Clinton Democrats. You’ve heard of Reagan Democrats; you hear of McCain Democrats, well there are also Clinton Democrats/President Clinton, and the Senator. Your chosen one is not ready, and since he was selected by the party, did Obama really pick his VP or did the party pick the VP? Ted Kennedy perhaps, Daschle, Reid, Pelosi….? Say, maybe Biden picked himself? Your guy can’t punch his way out of a paper bag. If not for all the cheating and maneuvering and BS that went on, Senator Clinton would be the nominee.
Obama, never, never, never, never. Get it? Never!!
Florida Resident &
PUMA/CLINTON DEMOCRAT
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:16 am
good moring everyone looks like its going to be an intresting week comming up.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:19 am
Good morning Boogie. Grrrrrr.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 am
i cant wait to see how t-bone & the rest of obama,nits try and sell this one to us. biden or i guess we can start calling him o’biden . who it was it was good judgment tp pick someone that voted for the war.how it was good judgement for the pied piper to vote for the fisa bill & when biden voted againt it.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:28 am
this is goiing to be fun.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:29 am
any word from princess yet or any other pumas in denver , o wait Flowerchild2 did you make it there?
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:37 am
hey t-bone you out there. you,v i just gota here your take on why it good judgment to pick is thats the type of person that obama warned you against.
go hillary
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:38 am
& goodmoring to you Flowerchild2 whats new?
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:43 am
Will check in later, Boogie and all. On mom watch today for a while. Hey Rey. And T-Bone, you behave yourself, and try not getting under the heels guy skin today.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 am
imo, the reason he changes his position so often is he is a weakling. he doesn’t have a principle in his body or his head …. he can’t make a real decision… in other words, I would call him a whimp and that is why I won’t vote for him … period.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 9:27 am
you nailed it Akron. i always new he was a wusssss.
take it easy . iv got to take off now. .
go pumas
on August 23rd, 2008 at 9:54 am
i think they’re a perfectly matched team – they’re both clueless, mouthy and racially insensitive.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 am
yep-hiliary got screwed and so did ya’ll girls. at least out of compassion obama will give her a job walking the white house dogs.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:50 am
People should have listened to Rev. Wright when he said”Obama will do what a politician has to say”
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:55 am
so t-bone or any other obama,nits that are out there i just got know your take on this one. why did the chosen one pick a vp who i everything thats he warned you about.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
come on t-bone obamas paying you good money you got to do better than that.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm
t-bone: you already made the comments about the dog walking…several times, actually. And you need to start thanking your lucky stars and stripes that you live in a country where you can put down someone’s prayer and not be beheaded, have your tongue ripped out, or in ancient times stoned to death for Sacrilege. You need to apologize to Michael, t-bone.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 12:36 pm
why did the chosen one pick a vp who i everything thats he warned you about.
BO is weak, he needed someone to babysit him on his lack off which are many in that regards. Unfortunately, he has chosen an older version of his elitist image, just like Rev. Wrong and many others before Binder. This move is an acknowledgement to his lack of experience and confidence to run the office. He will be a puppet or as they say, an Uncle Tom. But who is to say, they want a 6.76% black president right? I much rather have Powell…..
on August 23rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Seems like a George Bush/Cheney move to me. That’s what GW did, didn’t he. Pick someone older, more experienced, and what good did that do? Makes me shutter even thinking about it.
Actually, I am relieved it wasn’t Senator Clinton. It would be hard to turn my back on her. Darn, I was hoping for the TX guy that was the deer in the headlights as VP. At least that would be funny.
Okay, back to work now on mom watch.
XXOO everyone!!
on August 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Ditto to you too Flower! btw you can have fay back, we are drench here in GA.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
yea im glad that is was not hillary to Flowerchild2
on August 23rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Question is did OBAMA PICK BIDEN OR was itPELOSI, REED & DEAN that made the PICK
on August 23rd, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Rey: watch for tornados. Faye was producing them in FL…okay, gotta go.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 1:19 pm
by choosing biden a the type of guy that the the chosen said warned you has llied to you about everthing he ran in . ready to cross over from the darkside
on August 23rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
My take is that the DNC could not get anyone else to say that they would run with their selected one in the event he was actually nominated.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Biden wtf? I waited with baited breath for biden-the anita hill guy? oh biden so respects women and will bring home the ladies in november?
-lets ask anita…hey anita how dio you feel about obama choosing biden-that guy who mentally raped you on national tv for 3 days during the clarence thomas hearings-as his running mate? is that the king of change that we should climb on board for?
{{{{crickets}}}}
please some one get me a vomit bucket…
Oh flaming liberal what was that about Obama/clinton 08..gues you will be serving me on november 5th…
{{{crickets}}}
what a tool a liar and a loser!
fuzzybeargville
PS Fuzzybeargville will be making a big announcement after the end of the 2008 Democratic Convention! I hope I can keep my mouth shut-I will not be charging $ 5.00 a text msg for it either!
on August 23rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I watched the announcement as I did other things all the way up to Biden stands for change and he search high and low, and then I couldn’t take it anymore.
Fuzzy, I hate suspense. Can’t you tell us now…..?
on August 23rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Fuzzy, I was going to mention Anita Hill, but you beat me to it
. Yeah, I’m old enough to remember the Clarence Thomas hearings and Biden’s ugly role in them. I can’t ever forgive him for falling for a GOP play and letting Anita get screwed. (Not to mention the other women willing to testify who magically never got called…)
Obama, nice way to impress the women you’re trying to sway. I can’t believe the sheer depth and breadth of the tone-deafness here. (BTW, I still believe Anita!)
on August 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Who’s tbone and why is he wasting his time here when he should be worshipping at the alter of the precious? tbone i can just see you now eating over your keybaord and wiping your fat greasy hands on your dirty tank top, wishing your mom would quit knocking on the bathroom doorwhile you’re trying to “type”….
But I digress. In what way is Biden changey change? this is freaking perfect, biden is soooo in bed with the credit card companies and so is b.o. so it’s all making sense to me now. good luck all you hipster poseurs(sp?) with your brand new 45 % credit card interest rate payments courtesy of your dunamic duo. what a couple of losers.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
We are so all about t-bone because we cant wait to see him cry like a baby when the big “o” is not given the cookir on November 4th -you see t-bone the koolaid is sweet on the tounge but bitter in the belly-
Is biden teh “ame old same old” we have been waiting for?
fuzzybeargville
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:17 pm
You all really sound like a bunch of sore losers and high school girls. Sadly, we live in a nation where women grow up with your mentality. At least you are a small minority. I’ll take the movement I worked for in the 70′s over your brand any day. I was hoping for Hillary to be the VP but I doubt she really wanted that. She will have much more fun and challenge if she stays in the senate for a while. Meanwhile, I pray that John McCain is not our next president. We really can’t survive 4 more years of that for so many reasons.
Oh well, wishing you all some enlightenment about this whole thing. Politcs is a dirty and unfair business. It has gotten so out of control the last 7 years that more of the Republicans will bring total stalemate and more wars. A pox on John McCain.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
hey did you guys here the reps are comming up wuth a new atack add that pushes the idea that the dems pass up on hillary the sronger of the 2 . which we already new was true. supposed to come out tomorow.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:37 pm
looks like the reps are going to do some of our work for us.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I guess Lisa is worried about her loser candidates.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 9:02 pm
hey has anyone herd anything new from denver. or any of thing from any from the girls that made it there.
go pumas
on August 23rd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
No word from Princess yet. She has her lap top that we know. They are getting the the PUMA den ready.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 10:42 pm
whats new with you Flowerchild2
on August 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
who know now that the chosen one has picked biden as his vp alot of obama-nation might feel betrayed now that the pied piper has picken just they type of person that hes been warning all of his followers about
on August 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
did you see the extended trailer from the doc yet Flowerchild2 ?
on August 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
iv got to get a copy of both doc,s sometime
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:14 pm
No Boogie, what trailer?
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Saw just a bit of Buchanan saying he can’t believe O didn’t pick Hillary since she got 18,000,000 votes.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Forget the stilletos…this lil ole white haired babe in tennis shoes is with you in spirit, all the way! “Our Hill “was short-changed and the party will suffer for it!
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Check this out:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065855/posts
Suit filed Thurs. in Fed. Court in Philadelphia – Obama constitutionally ineligible for presidency.
The lawyer (Philip Berg) who filed the suit said this in an interview yesterday:
“Sen. Obama really owes it to everyone to confront this. He should threaten me. “Berg,” he should say, “here are the documents and, if you do not withdraw the suit, I will sue you.” Right now, he has no basis to sue me. If he does have the documents, he should show them, and I’ll walk away. I’ll withdraw the case. But, again, he must show me a certified vault copy of his birth certificate and must show me a certified copy of the oath of allegiance taken between the time he was 19 to 21 at a Consulate, U.S. Embassy or the like. If those documents can be presented, again, I’m out of here. But I don’t think he can, I don’t think he will, and I think it is a total disgrace on his part.”
I think if Obama/campaign can’t produce these documents in 48 hours, Obama is toast, and DNC, etc. will be begging Hillary to be candidate.
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 pm
saw it on riverdaughters blog its 30 min long
preety good
on August 23rd, 2008 at 11:27 pm
hers the link http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/caucus-fraud-coming-soon-to-your-convention/
on August 24th, 2008 at 12:26 am
lets just see how this plays out . this is an election like no other.there might just be a surprise for the chosen one & his sidekick o’biden .
on August 24th, 2008 at 12:36 am
http://www.liberalrapture.com/2008/08/democratic-ticket-two-small-yappie-dogs.html
on August 24th, 2008 at 1:00 am
When you peel away all the hype-media bullshit the BO campaign is just hi-tech smoke and mirrors with an empty or at best an ill fitted suit seeking a job and I quote the chosen one, “above his pay grade.
now he picks as VP a 35 plus year member of the congress. Lest we forget, Biden ran for President in 1988 and LOST in the very early rounds.He vilified Anita Hill and royally screwed up the conformation hearings for Clarence Thomas.
I am writting in Hillary Clinton on my ballot in November!
on August 24th, 2008 at 1:20 am
the one who said it best might just have been the chosen one . he said” it’s above my paygade ” his words acuuly just aboght everything is above his paygrade.
on August 24th, 2008 at 2:20 am
when obama he introduced biden as the next president of the united states.
even obama knows hes dosent think hes got have the right tuff for the job . think of it your running for president & then you tell everyone onther guys is the president. even obama thinks . that just messed up.
on August 24th, 2008 at 3:43 am
I wouldn’t right in my vote, vote for the oldman to give Hillary a good chance for 2012. No vote mean it’s a vote for obama and that is repulsive imo.
http://logisticsmonster.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/puma-politics-3am-and-mccain-is-doing-something-gumby-wont/
on August 24th, 2008 at 5:41 am
I can’t believe they finally did a video about Obama and Larry Sinclair! I had to share it with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=%20D4X7ehB9kN0&fmt=18
on August 24th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Good morning, everyone. David in Iowa. Did you check if IA allows write in votes? If they don’t allow it, then your vote will go to O. Perish that thought.
O introduced Biden as the next president; Biden referred to O as Obama America. A little nervous with this match are we boys??? And that sexist remark Biden made about his wife’s Ph.D. Not getting off to a very good start, are they???
on August 24th, 2008 at 7:58 am
And you know that Hiillary is a murderer or so say some. You are all very hateful and disgusting people. I am quite sure Hillary can’t stand what you are doing if she even is aware of you which I doubt. Your are acting like tabloid trash here and it disgusts me. Get some decency you rascist prima donas.
BTW, the front page of your site is laughable. Hillary surely stood by her cheating man when he had monica suck his dick in the oval office and got himself impeached. Yeah…there is some integrity for you.
Hatred is an ugly and evil thing. Fortunately you are all losers and always will be.
on August 24th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Mark: you are the disgusting person. You are a degenerate. Look at what you just wrote!! What the hell does Monica have to do with anything? You belong in the Obama cheating camp. For your info, President Clinton left office with a 67 percent approval rating by the American people, and 59 billion dollars in surplus. You want to believe the murder theory that proves how absolutely ignorant you are.
You are a pervert to write that, so go get back on your porn sites and take your dirty, filty mouth and opinions with you!!
on August 24th, 2008 at 8:21 am
New McCain Ad: Passed Over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NrQ36Djf2E
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Ewwww. How rude. The blog equivilent of shouting down an 80 year-old patriot at a caucus. Got news for you: no matter how many times to shout out something doesn’t make it so.
I understand though. This is from chapter 2 or 3 of the “camp obama” literature: “Go for broke, be ruthless and agressive. The ends justify whatever means you use. This isn’t about being democratic, it’s about winning elections.”
Right?
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:03 am
I just have to laugh at how all the O supporters, who think he’s already in the WH, are so insecure that have have to continue to dump their scum all over the blogosphere. Don’t you have something better to do such as blockwalking for your candidate? remember all those uneducated, bitter voters are not on the internet reading your poems of praise for the one. The say huffpo who?
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:09 am
dittio
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:14 am
yea i heard about that new add. looks like the reps are doing alot of our work for us. now its only a matter of time before rev wright shows up again .
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:17 am
who knows mabey it will convince some dels bof the to change sides . anything can happen this year.
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:03 am
jaym, I’m with you. If we’re so pathetic and useless, why are they spending so much time trying to aggravate us and shut us down?
Hey, Obama trolls, it’s not my job to get in line. It’s your candidate’s job to earn my vote. he hasn’t–and your childish behavior is not doing your candidate any favors. If I came onto your site and pulled this crap, would it make you more inclined to see things my way?
Good grief. Looks like nobody in our particular pack of trolls ever read “how to win friends and influence people”.
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:19 am
good morning minx good post. but if you came on there site & did the same thing they would probley call you a racist or some other bs like that.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Just read the post on PUMA. Princess is in Denver and has checked in!!
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am
I have never been an Obama fan and agree with all the criticism on this site. However, Biden is a good, decent guy with everything it takes to get this country back on track. He created and got passed the Violence Against Women Act. And although I was appalled by the Bankruptcy bill, he did manage to get an exemption in it to prevent child-support payments as being counted as income for single moms. I believe he will be the guiding force behind Obama and I trust and respect him. No matter how upset we are about Hillary, allowing McCain to win would be devastating to women, to families, to our nation, to the world. Please consider the big picture.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Obama Goes Postal.!!!!!!!!! Real Footage ,,,(Language Advisory
http://www.rudistettner.com/2008/08/obama-goes-postal-real-footage-language.html
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Piper’s checked in too.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Just saw the ad that Senator Clinton was not on Obama’s short list – - it’s great. Theme – - the truth hurt Obama. Is he crying; I’ll send him a box of Puffs with the built in lotion.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Hey Rey: how are you? Are you safe now from Faye? Is your brother still here or is he back in Iraq? Give him XXOO for us!!
Flower
on August 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
yea preety good link rey
go hillary
on August 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
you know Flowerchild2 i did look a littel like he might be crying did,nt it
on August 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
good to here that they are gettiing to denver safe & sound
on August 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Jayne, this is the big picture: Let’s suppose that all politicians are more or less corrupt. That’s a given. HRC and McCain, however politically astute, can be trusted to put the best interests of the American people before their own self-interests. Obama has a scary Nixon-like component of egotism in his character. Even with respect to his own donors, he says he doesn’t care about them, he just wants their “checks”. I don’t see how anyone in good conscience could vote for this man for president. Country before party; character before self-aggrandizement.
on August 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Jayne said,
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am
——————————————-
Sorry, Jayne, voting for obama is worse than getting back in bed with an abuser . I want the DNC to learn a lesson about what happened – you just don’t get it.
on August 24th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Jayne, The DNC should have considered the consequences before they shoved Obama down our throats. If he loses, it will be the fault of the people who propped up a shallow, unqualified candidate and pushed him out there, not of the people who rejected him.
on August 24th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
your so right JayM & Cinie they say the same thing if he looses it our fault . they rather do that than own up to it. im sure thell blame hillary to. it everyone esles,s fault but there,s that who they think. .
on August 24th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
My old man use to say; listen to the olds and you will be so much wiser. Unfortunately the search engine came along and we are twice as dumb without knowing.
Listen obots, the difference between us is all in the state of mind. Our action is base on our loyalty to our country first not party first. We will not follow Hillary blindly as you guys are doing with the Messiah which to me is very clear. It takes courage and a good conscience to stand up for what’s right and to see through it. You guys can continue to be obscene and abusive, it’s not going to change anyone’s mind, if anything else, retribution is what you will get. So please continue…………..
on August 24th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
“A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is… A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” –
— C.S. Lewis
on August 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Punishing Michigan and Florida was wrong but Ms Clinton agreed to it. At the time she thought she had it locked up. She was the darling of the party and the media. Then people stared getting tired of being told who the winner was when a vote had not been placed. Obama caught on with the youth and disenfranchised – people who were tired of same old politics that both parties engege in. She looked more like the Republcans. Obama seemed different. The Clintons were arrogant in their attitude that they were the heir apparents to the White House. There was a backlash and her campaign under Mark Penn went on a rampage angering many because this was supposed to be the Democrats time to succeed and her campaign enabled the Republicans to hope. It is a shame because if these two had been on the ticket it would have been great. I did not care which one was president – haven’t we learned a VP can be very powerful? The big picture was to defeat the Republicans and then get the party in order. I say you are all obstructionists. You are sore losers and you do great harm. Hope you will be very happy when the Republican revolution is complete. Of course what do I know I supported Edwards.
on August 24th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Jayced – That’s just a perception in regards to the clinton and what you are saying about the Repubs are also a lie. You would rather hand over our country to this nobody and his yaping vp for the benefit of the party. No thanks, you can no one but yourself for supporting this imposter. Hillary was the right choice and you blow it.
on August 24th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
No thanks, you can blame no one but yourself for supporting this imposter. Hillary was the right choice and you blow it.
on August 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
In addition, Tell me what accomplishment our congressional leaders have done since they have taken the majority? NONE!
on August 24th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
the party why should we do it for the good of the party. how whats the party done for us latley. how abough whats good the country t or whats good for democarcy . you can have the party all you want .
go pumas
on August 24th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
im sick of hearing lets do it for the party. whats the part done for latey . they have jacked us over that what they have done . they have hijacked democracy .
on August 24th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
looks like she has no answer .
on August 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
It’s hard to argue the truth boogie. Yet many of them professes to know what they are doing. If their truly concerned about the the real issuses of our country, instead of criticizing what we are doing, they should be condoning it, it’s american. However, that’s not their mission and I really don’t beleived they understand the possibility of the end result or concerned enough to know.
on August 24th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Joe Biden’s Disastrous Foreign Policy Liabilities
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-disastrous-foreign-policy.html
Case against Biden
http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/detail.jsp?key=264866&rc=tf_po&p=0
on August 24th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Obama-Biden, the Gaffe Machines: Obama discovers a 58th State:
Check the vids…lol.
http://blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/2008/08/24/obamabiden-the-gaffe-machines–obama-discovers-a-58th-state.aspx
on August 24th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Our thro away society:
http://findalismonkeyinthemiddle.blogspot.com/2008/08/our-throw-away-society.html
on August 24th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
This one is absurd and just to show what kind of people will support the choosen one. Read the responds…….and come up with your own opinion….lolness!
Jesus Was Dark, Liberal: Why Fear Obama?
http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/opinion/columnists/article/jesus_was_dark_liberal_why_fear_obama/13100/
on August 24th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Sorry if I sound irritated and down today, I am. Family obligations have prevented my going to the convention and it is really bothering me today. Being there in spirit is just not the same. You all are handling the “visitors” very well, I might add. You always do. Fasten your seat belts because more “visitors” will be arriving.
It seems a logical conclusion that if party elders prevented Senator Clinton’s presidential nomination, then those same party elders prevented her from the VP slot. O, I am sure did not select the VP; he was told to do so. It does not appear to be the match they claim it is. Just my HO based on observations, news coverage, and feminine intuition.
Peace,
Flower
on August 24th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
What a bummer, sorry.
on August 24th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
rey there a reason that some have said obama-nation is cult like its articles like this one.
on August 24th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
rey sometimes i think they cant handel the truth .
on August 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
yea rey that one is messed up
i mean compareing him with jesus
& they wonder why some call them cult like
go hillary
go pumas
on August 24th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
no-we wont radio starts in a hour we can get all the low down from denver. who knows the boogieman might just call in.
on August 24th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
i know where your coming from Flowerchild i wish i could be there to.
on August 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
check this new vid out
on August 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
anyone out there
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Present
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
so whats new with you Flowerchild2
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
so whats new with you Flowerchild2
on August 24th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
dose anyone know how we can get a copy of the movie they made in for denver
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Had to run out for awhile Boogie. How are ya? They made a movie in Denver already? That was fast. Did you call in? I didn’t hear all of it. very busy.
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
They were saying something about O blocking the roll call, something about security reasons. Then O and the “group” is trying to get the delegates to pledge in secret before the convention. Something like they did when they kept pushing the SD’s to pledge early. Did you catch all of that? Princess sounded ticked. You know, he’s just an instrument though; what the party leaders are using to pull off this sham of preventing senator Clinton from the presidency. That’s how I see it. No way did he pick Biden. And what I also read, when I had time, they are blaming senator Clinton, saying she should unite us. That’s O’s job. He’s the self-proclaimed healer, uniter, not Senator Clinton. Where are all those healing, uniting abilities of his. Just another of his bogus claims to get votes.
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
yes i did
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
you rember the movie they were making about the fraud that wa going on
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
i could not agree with you more Flowerchild2. there trying to rig the systen
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
To be frankly honest with you guys, I wish John McCain would ask Senator Clinton to be his running mate. Truth is, the repubs have a better history on civil rights than the dems. If it’s true that they are blaming her for our defiance to be heard then screw the democratic party and let them have their luvfest with the messiah.Hell that would be my christmas wish if senator clinton would tell them to read between the lines. Either way, all the old man have to do now is choose a woman for a running mate, then check mate!
on August 24th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Rey, so right on. Even my Republican friends say that. One woman I know here is running for City Commissioner. She even said — that woudl be a winning ticket. I’ve thought the same myself. Really give the party a black eye!!
If “they” had left this thing alone, we would have waltzed into the White House with her.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
The problem with playing with fire is that you get burnt, we all know that. The hell with a black eye, I want to see this do nothing congress to implode so that powermongers in generation to come will remember it.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Okay, well, I don’t know much about the fighting in the ring stuff. I always close my eyes. Boogie, what do you think about that? McCain/Clinton ticket?
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
hmmmmmmmmm
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Obama is so in their pockets. Do you know that Daschle has made all these investments in the corn ethanol plants? The ones that have caused world hunger. Even the inventor said it’s a bust of a project. Well, Daschle and Obama went all over together where these plants are. No wonder that Obama just wants to do “research” for alternative engery fuels. If we turned to nuclear again, and drilling….Daschle and all his other investors are going to be out of money big, big money. To have a patsy I guess you would call it in the White House, to protect this for you, you stand less of a chance of going under. There is a connection here…corn ethanol, Daschle and Obama. Kennedy….he refused the wind mills in his area of MA because they blocked his yacht from sailing around the sound up there. He scratched the idea which would have produced 1/3 of the energy in his area. He said, give it more “research”. So when I hear O say “research”, 150 billion dollars in research for alternative fuels??? What it means is nothing….I’m telling you, these people have got to go. And Senator Clinton, they don’t want her. She would kick them in their behinds so fast their heads would spin. And they know it. She would uncover this tangled web of the mortgage mess we are in. The corruption there is so deep.
I think what has happened in all of this…the party has woken up the sleeping giant…US!!
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
id like it better than obama-biden
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
i think your right nobody expected this the people fighting back like this
we are that giant
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Boogies thinking about it.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
FWC2 – I was trying to be theatrically funny. We should endorse that thought of McCain/Clinton ticket. However, I highly doubt that Sen. Clinton will have any of it……..very sad.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
this whoe thing is a power grab .from the way they were talking on blog talk today way more pumas came than anyone thought. even on from canada they said
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
i dont think it will happen but it just might be what we need a blending of the partys
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
http://smartgirlpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/08/clintons-are-voting-for.html
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
http://patriotroom.com/?p=1386
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
No, they didn’t expect it. They thought this thing would be wrapped up way long ago. They thought we would all faint and swoon because O has such a dynamic personality. Personally, I think he is sooo boring.
It was even said when he won those string of caucus/fraud victories, that the “party” predicted, we would not care about the issues; personality would out-weight “the issues” Well, they were wrong. They can’t play all of us like a fiddle. They underestimated the voting democrats of this country. This isn’t the first time the people have had to fight to retain the benefits of this great democracy, referred to by our founding father’s as the great experiment. And sadly it won’t be the last.
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Didn’t I said the repubs will have fun with this guys….lol. Check this link.
http://patriotroom.com/?p=1353
on August 24th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
yea this thing is bigger than hrc obama or the dnc its abought demcracy
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Lol….I hope the girls are doing great in Denver. Just you, flower and me self, so here’s another one lad.
http://jay1949.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/obama-narcissus/
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:13 am
i have been posting these at the conflu this one is good enough to share:
Oh all I hope the heavens shake tonight and the ground beneath the DNC moves….because this is a real tent revival whip us up for the convention prayer:
Creator Father Mother God/des
Merciful Creator we have over these last few months implored your divine wisdom to provide us with strength and protection. You have answered our prayers we are safe and we are strong and we are ready. Our legions are descending on Denver in rank and formation to do your will.
Creator unleash the sword of the almighty, sound the trumpets, let legions of Continental Principalities the spirit of Michael Slaying the Serpent the all those slumbering saints arise and go forth! The time has come the battle draws near join shield and present spear. Call forth the just and march to Denver the time has come.
We come out to face the enemy tyranny, injustice, greed and fraud every vice that infects the body politic, we are patriots calling forth the spirits of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams writers of the Declaration of Independence because they believed in the importance of the word and their word went forth and made a just nation! May our words go forth also and free the land!
We call on you Creator to hear the litany of our adversary’s transgressions against the democratic process that we hold so dear. The shear multitude of sins against freedom shouts out like a testament against them.
They have manipulated the assignment of delegates and the order of primaries; they have run fraudulent caucuses with intimidation and voter suppression, they have stripped whole delegations for a number of the several states and then reassigned them at will; and on May 31st 2008 they silenced the will of the people to ensure their preselected candidate was chosen.
The souls of millions who have died for this land and for freedom cry out and will not be silenced. Their cry is an indictment against them. They demand justice for the blood they shed that it might not have been shed in vain. Here them Creator Father Mother God/des and answer their pleas. We their children, the children of democracy, demand judgment against the DNC and Obama of America.
Send down your wrath upon the oppressors of the children yearning to breathe free air and install our champion Hillary as the true voice of justice. She has been a faithful servant and has as always kept her word allowing those her tormentors to jeer and make sport of her for their own purpose.
If through their continued guile and cunning they should steal the prize so hard fought and won by our Hillary, give them no rest and let them find no place to continue their fraud. Reign down defeat on them like fire from the heavens. Give them no quarter and let them know they now are the hunted. Let them lament their misfortune that they should know they have been judged harshly for their turning away from their own principles for the sake of pride, power and greed.
Their plans turn them to dust and at their great assembly make burst forth from the heavens a deluge like has not been seen since the time of Noah. For the land where they make their boast on is parched and dry. Let your thunder be a testament against them and the lighting a judgment on them.
Creator give us justice for the land cries out for it and creationknows you are just. Do not let these usurpers prevail we your servants stand ready to do what is your call.
Amen
Fuzzybeargville
Dont piss off fuzzy or the celestial sh*t will hit the fan
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Too funny Rey. The Republicans are going to have a lot of fun. You know how many anti-Obama ads they could make just using Charleton Heston’s movies?
Well I wish you sweet dreams!!
XXOO
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:20 am
yea it looks like just us 3 are going 2 hold down the fort
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:22 am
they reps wont have to swift boat the chosen one. they got 2 much lagit stuff
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:22 am
tbone, your post 445 is full of sh*t. I am an AA female Hillary supporter. I’m sick of the racism charge. Want to explain to me how it is that 95% of AA are voting for Obama and that is not racist? The race-baiter in this election is Obama. Try this on for size.
Obama had won IA, lost NH, lost Nevada, and was desperate to win SC, otherwise his candidacy would have been in jeopardy because he risked being out of the race if he could not win a state with such a large black, democratic majority. At that point Hillary lead in the SC poll and had 65% black support. He had to pry those votes from her hands and he had a limited amount of time to do it. As a result he put into action his revolting racial strategy to rile up black people. Do you actually think the Clintons would under those favorable circumstances come to SC and conspire to make black people angry with race baiting talk and then expect them to go out and vote for Hillary Clinton?
Obama wrote memos to the media (Tim Russett confronted him with his campaign memo after the SC debate) saying the Clintons were playing racial politics regarding the following statements:
1. Bill’s “Fairy tale” comment: Comment referred to Obama’s statements about the Iraq war in that he left out that he also said he did not know how he would have voted on the resolution had he been in the senate. Comment was said to be racially charged and referred to Obama’s campaign instead of his Iraq storyline. It’s well documented but as usual the media lied and did not show all of the quotation.
2. Bill’s “Roll of the Dice” comment: He did not say that, Charlie Rose did. I watched the whole interview. Bill actually refused to agree with Charlie’s comment and rephrased his own response. Media lied and attributed comment as racial and did claim Bill said it.
3. Bill saying in response to a reporter comments at 10:00 AM in front of a breakfast place before 99% of people had voted that yes Jessie Jackson won the SC primary and he named others Jessie won. Media cut out the context of the comment lied and said these comments were made after Obama had won the SC primary and Bill was trying to make Obama “the black candidate” by playing this race card. Without success, a black congressman, (Meeks) who was with Bill all day and night in SC tried to refute the story to the media.
4. Hillary saying that in addtion to Dr. King it took presidential leadership (President Johnson) to ensure that Dr. King’s dream was realized by law. Media claimed she was demeaning Dr. King and by inference Obama.
Now you must understand that Obama fed these lies to the media. The proof is when Tim Russet confronted him at the next debate after SC. At first Obama tried to deny it but Tim said while “waving the five page memo in his face” something to the effect that: Sen Obama are you denying that you and your staff sent this 5 page memo to all the media outlets describing these things? Obama said something like well in a campaign we all are not proud of some things that are done. TRANSLATION: THE MEDIA MADE A FOOL OUT OF YOU ALL AND BLACKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY FEEDING LIES TO THE PUBLIC. That is the reason why Bill Clinton despises him. So, yes I do personally detest him for dishonoring the civil rights work that I (marched with Dr. King during my college days) and many others did, therefore I will never vote for him.
For these reasons, when Obama gives his speech at the convention on the anniversity of the civil rights struggle, Dr. King will not be proud instead he will be heartbroken and sobbing because he was a minister first. I too will be heartbroken and will never vote for Obama due to the evil he has wrought..
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Flw2 – I’ll give it a shot….how about let hillary go?
God Bless you Michael! You guys stay safe.
on August 25th, 2008 at 1:02 am
yea your right Wisewoman whe n over 90% if the african americans voted obama that way nobody cryed racism.
that realy pissed me off
on August 25th, 2008 at 1:36 am
The Obama/Biden ticket will go down in flames come November. Obama campaign ran his campaign against what his VP represents.(Biden voting for the war, entrenched Washington politician) I guess Obama supporters are addicted to OBAMA Kool-Aid and do not care who runs with Obama. There will be lots of Obamites crying in November. Hopefully, there will be lots of Anti-Kool-Aid Antidote to bring these people back to reality..
on August 25th, 2008 at 2:16 am
yea but you never know. biden might just have changed alot of obama-nations minds or at leat there dels. we might be instore for a big suprise at this convention with all the work princess & all the rest of the girls in denver .alot of minds will be changed. we wont need that many to win over.
go pumas
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Morning all. Keeping finger cross, that something will change at the convention.
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:38 am
go morning rey
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:39 am
when is the roll call
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:42 am
hopefuly all her dels will do what we put them there to do & vote for her we had a metting in san antonio & made them take a pledge that under no circumstances will the vote for this pied piper.
if all her dels do the same we are in good shape
go pumas
on August 25th, 2008 at 8:00 am
ANY NEW NEWS FROM DENVER
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:02 am
According to foxnews, they are talking about she’s releasing the del. Pity! Will see……
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:03 am
The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning
Commentary.
My confession:
I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees.. I don’t feel threatened. I don’t feel discriminated against. That’s what they are: Christmas trees.
It doesn’t bother me a bit when people say, ‘Merry Christmas’ to me. I don’t think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn’t bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a preacher, it’s just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.
I don’t like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don’t think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can’t find it in the Constitution and I don’t like it being shoved down my throat.
Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren’t allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that’s a sign that I’m getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.
In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it’s not funny, it’s intended to get you thinking.
Billy Graham’s daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her ‘How could God let something like this happen?’ (regarding Katrina) Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, ‘I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we’ve been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?’
In light of recent events… terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O’Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn’t want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn’t spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr Spock’s son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he’s talking about. And we said OK.
Now we’re asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don’t know right from wrong, and why it doesn’t bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with ‘WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.’
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world’s going to hell Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send ‘jokes’ through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.
Are you laughing yet?
Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you’re not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.
Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it… no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don’t sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.
My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,
Ben Stein
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:12 am
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-24-campaignpoll_N.htm
“Fewer than ½ of Senator Clinton’s supporters say they will back Obama”
Are they getting it now???
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:26 am
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/26/clinton-voters-buck-obamas-bid/
Princess is interviewed and quoted in this article!!
on August 25th, 2008 at 10:37 am
that was an wasome artical fl-child where did you find it
on August 25th, 2008 at 10:40 am
and any clinton dels that do change there vote to obama should be ashamed of themselfs. the the people that vote them in didnt send then there to change there minds when they got there even if hillary ask them the are her DELs but they represent us.
go pumas
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Please pass these sites around. It shows that Larry Sinclair can be believed. Obama’s mentor was bi-sexual and even wrote pornographic book, “Sex Rebel:Black,” under the pseudonym “Bob Greene.”
http://antiprotester.blogspot.com/2008/08/frank-marshall-davis-obamas-communist.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/obamas_teenage_mentor_liked_se.html
Please help stop Obama. Thank you very much.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Hi gals:
I don’t why you would give this guy t-bone the time of day.
You should be concentrating on the Denver Convention.
go Hillary
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:20 am
It was a link from another article.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Letter to all news media sent this AM:
The democratic party and Senator Obama’s campaign are currently attempting to suppress the votes of Senator Clinton’s delegates, the way voices of Senator Clinton’s voters in Michigan and Florida were silenced. This can not continue.
We the voters who support and will continue to support Senator Clinton, demand that Howard Dean take full leadership at this crucial time. Please announce our demands directly to Howard Dean via your news show:
ROLL CALL VOTE IN PUBLIC, ON THE FLOOR.
STOP TRYING TO SILENCE HILLARY’S DELEGATES.
Thank you for your assistance.
Florida Resident
& PUMA Democrat
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Ben Stein gives me a rash. That gives me the impression that he’s either speaking for God or assuming that people who proclaim their religiosity publicly are de factor correct and righteous. Religious is as religious does, kats and kittens. It’s holy when it lifts, ennobles, heals and tells truth. It’s not when it divides, belittles, threatens and goes on pogroms of any name. Just my $0.02.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Wisewoman: Your post brings tears to my eyes.
XXOO,
Flower
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:56 am
nice to here from you again minx
on August 25th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Greetings from Denver heels! And congrats to my Mich and FL peeps, you’re now whole people again. I was in the hall when our “new” best friend Howard and the rest of the credentials crew voted to conveniently seat florida and michigan. i thought the unity pony was going to drop from the sky… it was something out of the stepford wives… delegates are getting muscled right and left. they need to know that we support them. keep up the good fight.
— scl
on August 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
thanks for checking in sista
whell hold down the fort while your gone
tell all the other girls downb there from hh that the boogieman says hi
on August 25th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Ya it was weird coming from Ben Stein. Religion are like politic in a sense, it’s convenient when it suite you. However, there are some good effect to those who hear the teaching, just as long as it’s not impose in others belief. I’ll take your $0.02…….
on August 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
bolg talk is on right now
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Really? Matthews called them insane? Did he have a tingle running up his leg? oh, no, that couldn’t be. He only gets the tingle when he’s around Obama.
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
How original. First post and we are all that, nice of you to stop bye.
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
10 reason Obama will lose in November.
http://patriotroom.com/?p=1394
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
hey gang! piper here from denver. i participated in a puma rally earlier today outside of the set of hardball. it was fun, but a bit tense. we made our presence known.
many of the streets are blocked off and Denver PD is in their riot gear.
we’ll be doing the ‘Beautiful Protest and Rise’ rally tonight at Cheesman Park @ 6:00 pm, which will culminate in a candlelight vigil @ 9:45.
i’m about to do an interview for Japanese tv. i’ll write more later.
on August 25th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
post the vids. Ya’ll have fun and be safe.
on August 25th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
hey piper thanks for checking in keep us posted
thanks
on August 25th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
so what new rey looks like we got a new obama,nite here
on August 25th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Japanese TV…wow…that’s special, huh! I’m ure it will move voters here.
on August 25th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
we just gone international. yea baby
on August 25th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Nikki and Randi: as Piper has suggested before to other Obamomites…….get a room.
on August 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Flowerchild2 yea lets do it
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
hey blogtalk is comming on.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/08/26/NO-WE-WONT-PUMA-RADIO-CONVENTION
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
dam i wish i where i denver the girls must be haveing so much fun
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
yea Flowerchild2 obama,nits are kinda slow i think its in there DNA
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
hey anyone out there
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
I’m off PUMA prowl. Good grief is that convention boring. If you look real close, (I can’t see any) the delegates voting for Hillary have on little green buttons. Jury still out on how that is going to proceed. Alot of strong arming going on. Yes, I wish I was there too Boogie. Just doing what I can here to help out. Have been hitting the media with e-mails on the strong arming going on yet again…..
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
some here i cant stand mo here voice
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
i cant stand mo even to listen to her
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
If Obama gets the nom, the media will be poking mikes in our faces asking what we’re going to do next.
Better have some signs “Resign, Obama!” ready!
Let’s keep up the momentum. Never let them see us slack!
on August 25th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
the pumas are going to only get stronger
on August 25th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Fox is calling us, the “Hillary Factor.” Isn’t it sad that only the Republicans are taking us seriously? The Republican pundits keep telling the dems what they are hearing, and the dems deny it. Well….McCain said joking…if you live long enough you can see anything. I didn’t think that would come true this soon though.
on August 25th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I can’t stand Ted Kennedy.
on August 25th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Hey all, don’t worry, there are a lot of us out here. Just because we’re the only ones writing, doesn’t mean we’re the only ones feeling this way. It’s actually very smart to use Obuhbuh’s “coronation” to get our message out. They’ll never get it that you don’t have to sign up anywhere to tell the DNC to shove their unity pony. All you have to do is vote your conscience.
on August 25th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
i cant stand him either Flowerchild2
on August 25th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
the more they sreww us the stronger we will become . they just dont get it
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
there trying to jack us over more
there strying to stop the roll call
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/stephanopoulos.html
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
t-bone, the brother can have what’s left of the party. And I mean that sincerely.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
THE BROTHER HAS TAKEN THIS PARTY OVER. THEY WERE EATING CANDY OUT OF MICHELE’S HANDS. HILLIARY WILL SOON BEND HER KNEE. HAHAHA
Ah yes……you must be a repub to really enjoy the destruction of the foundation or a racist.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Here’s Michelle with her speech:
….I would like to give back to the society that help by taking more than what I desserved …. lol….JK.
She makes me sick. and the kids thing is was so orchestrated….*gag*. I guess Michelle is back on the menu then.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
sorry iv been off my comps been giveing me troubel
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
got your back, boogie.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
thanks rey looks like t-hamber is up 2 his old tricks
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
yea rey she make me sick to i cant stand to listen to her.
on August 25th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
they dont let hillarys dels speak . it will haunt them come nov 4th
on August 26th, 2008 at 12:05 am
hey the movie they made is on you tube i think anyone got a link
on August 26th, 2008 at 12:16 am
I’m going to hit the sack, here’s a few link boog’s.
http://nobamablog.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/a-brief-analysis-of-michelle-obamas-speech/
http://partisanreport.com/blog/2008/08/25/not-bad-considering-this-is-only-the-first-time-she-has-been-proud-of-her-country/#comment-5065
http://partisanreport.com/blog/2008/08/25/wow-four-people-detained-in-conspiracy-to-kill-senator-obama-during-acceptance-speech/#comment-5066
on August 26th, 2008 at 12:27 am
Okay I lied. final post for the night, this is funny!
http://americassentinel.com/2008/08/25/michelle-obama-video-from-the-convention/
on August 26th, 2008 at 12:28 am
thanks rey
on August 26th, 2008 at 6:56 am
good moring everyone
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Great job in Denver everyone. Keep up the good work.
Never ever Obama. I will cross party lines and vote for McCain as our boy is an officer in the Marines and he told us never ever vote for Obama. He is not who people think he is!!!
Hillary 08
on August 26th, 2008 at 10:09 am
You are no threat and I’m out of here. Glad I found out what I needed to know.
FOX News is a whole other story. Everyone knows how fixed that is and they are bleeding profits. Look at their standing on the NYSE. They are losing viewership too. Your ship is going down.
Huh? What the heck does Foxnews got to do with us? Stop monologueing on this blog, 30% of Hillary supporter will not follow suit, are you stupid or something?
on August 26th, 2008 at 10:31 am
this whole thing smeel like a rat. now it looks like hillary dels wont get to vote .
or only a few states. . i guess they dont get it. that the more of these stunts they pull the more that they will suffer on nov 4th
on August 26th, 2008 at 10:42 am
More Democrats watch Fox than MSNBC and CNN combined. They had an opportunity to gain ground, and they gave it up to pander to BO and his crew. There is no way to undo what they have done, and it will not only show up in Nov., it will continue to bedevil them as the party falls apart. They have dumped their base, and are trying to replace it. HOw, with whom? Get serious.
They are having to spend the week, saying one thing, and realizing that they blew it, big time. Even the polls are showing their mistake. Oh well, we tried to tell them. T-BOne and friends… you are just an annoyance. A blip on history, democracy will eventually run right over you.
on August 26th, 2008 at 11:15 am
nice post warrior princess
they keep this up & the party might jusr impode on itself
on August 26th, 2008 at 11:26 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/us/politics/26assess.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Here’s a quote from the NYT article:
“Frustrations abounded most pointedly for Mrs. Clinton: at a breakfast with New York Democrats on Monday morning, she was forced to rebut a new television advertisement for Senator John McCain that used her past attacks on Mr. Obama against him. And she faced questions about comments from Clinton friends that Mr. Clinton remained aggrieved from the bruising primary battle and was unhappy with his speaking assignment at the convention.”
Note the word “forced”. I hope Senator Kennedy will live long enough to see how he has destroyed this party. This whole scheme was devised by him.
on August 26th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
they think there trying to be slick. but every time the jack us over. the stronger we become this time its gona be on its gone be for the whole world to see.. they pull this stunt start a roll call. then spot it . even if your where not sure how it was supposed to work . everyone knows you dont stop a vote like that. but this time the whole world will see it .
this is realy starting to piss me off
they do thi & they think they got a problem now.
this will be nothing to what happens next.
go pumas
on August 26th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Their chickens are coming home to roost
on August 26th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
http://gallup.com/home.aspx
Gallup daily tracking poll today:
McCain 46%
Obama 44%
on August 26th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
dosent look like biden gave him the jump
on August 26th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
No Biden jump, Boogie. Pundits, republicans, and honest dems are saying….worst thing he could have done is not select Hillary for VP, although I don’t think he picked him, One man said this AM, the democrats are hell bent on their own destruction by not selecting her.
Biden got 9,000 votes; Hillary 18,000,000. Those dems really know how to pick em’!!
on August 26th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Y’all want a great boost from a media guy on how bad the corporate media treats our gal, still? Take a look at Eric Boehlert’s column at MediaMatters. Even the title sums it up: Hillary Clinton speaks at convention. The press concocts a story.”</aI
on August 26th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Geez, all you guys do is talk about me, even when i’m gone. not much else going on, huh? wisewomen, dont waste my time with your drivel next time.
Just FYI, the Violence Against Women Act, which is about the most pro-women piece of legilsation ever signed by the Clinton Administration was drafted by Joe Biden. Guess that doesn’t count in hh fantasy land though, huh?
I’m curious to see how hrc will deal with her backstabbers tonight.
on August 26th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
that was an awsome artical minx but sad 2
keep up the good work
in denver tell all the other girls from hh tha same
on August 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
What they don’t understand is that the “torch” does not get passed to the “new” generation until the American people say so…in the voting booth…in November.
on August 26th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
in case you didn’t notice, the democratic party has moved on from billery. they had there time but its over now. maybe if they truly cared about the party, bill wouldn’t have been having his little trysts in the white house and then lying about it. it kind of killed any chance of gore getting elected.
on August 26th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
haha…tbone your 1st 3 comments was so on point these air-heads just don’t get it. lol
on August 26th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
ladies i’m still waiting on a debate. lets debate baracks education, work experience as opposed to john mccains or better yet, lets do billary.
on August 26th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
any of u hc/john mccain supporters know how he got into politics? how hard did john mccain work? has he ever had a “real” job working with the people in our communities? how many peices of legislation has john mccain or hc introduced and became LAW as opposed to baracks 200+? i’m waiting ladies.
on August 26th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Dee, you should change “was” to “were” in your above post to be grammatically correct. Then you should give up blogging and return to your remedial education class. There is no point in our talking to another brain-dead nasty O-bot.
on August 26th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
looks like t-hambugers got a obama-nit buddy
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
ill bet t-hambugers this the golden boy came from the hood & grew up on the mean streets . you probley think he grew up on hard times .
but most obama,nits are delusional any way
so so i guess i shouldn’t be surprised
puma power
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Yes, Boogie, a little friend who wants to know how many “peices” ….what are peices? Does she mean pieces? Dee, it’s i after e except after c. Remember? Or were you absent that day.
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
so t-hambuger what happend did the golden boy ill ill bet you bought that story did,nt you. he sold you on his hope & change BS then did just then after he sold you on his new type politics he sold you out & picked the senator that been in the longest the type of guy hes been warning you of
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
ok t-hambuger & dee what ever that is
expain to us how o,biden was good pick
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Dee – Lets go here http://forums.hannity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7
I’ll be happy to entertain you.
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
how have you been Flowerchild2
whats new
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
hey you know what time hillary is on tonight
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
I don’t think dee have the courage to step into the lions den.
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Hillary is on at 10:00 PM, EST, Boogie. I’m good how are you? I just read that O needs a 15 pt. bounce from this convention, or he is in really deep trouble. Think he will get it? Ha!! If he gets 5 points it will be a miracle. He’s made way too many mistakes, and no one can get him out of this. When he and his most militant supporters played the race card, he wrote his own Epitaph. Not even Hillary can get him out of this.
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
im good thanks . from what i hearing hes still sliping in the polls ‘ i think he,d be lucky to break even in the polls
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
he might get a 15 pt bump but in the wrong direction
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Yes, McCain is two points ahead right now. I do believe they’re on the eve of destruction.
on August 26th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
any new news from denver?
from the girls
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
& if still plan on stoping the roll call vote midway sometime. there no better way to devide the party than that.
go pumas
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
No. I did send our XXOO’s to Princess through Murphy though. I’m reading that the delegates are being asked to vote in their hotel rooms. So there’s still a lot of corruption going on.
Rey, too funny. Can you send that link to O. He’s afraid of Hannity. He’s afraid of O’Reilly? I think he’s afraid of the Irish.
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
princess is supposed to go on the daily show sometime anybody know when?
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
No, maybe Manolo would. I am not home during the day so I don’t know what the daily show even is.
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
hope the girls bring back lots of pics that they can e-mail us
might be the next best thing to being there
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
this is a link to it Flowerchild2
http://www.thedailyshow.com/
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
I heard uprising is happening in dever. Dels are protesting of that sort, not sure.
on August 26th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
hillary should be on soon
on August 26th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Uprising? Well I am sure they don’t like it. Not all of them anyway. Why should they be told how to vote? In their hotel room? It’s a coup. I’ve never seen anything like it. Have this ever happened before – - that the presumed nominee, is down in the polls?
on August 26th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Found it
Delegates Mad As Hell: Scramble for Floor Vote
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
on August 26th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
A quote from Riverdaughter’s report:
Delegates have reported to us that Obama supporters are stationed outside of each delegation’s room with clipboards, ready to make sure that once again, despite their best efforts to represent their constituents (approximately 12,000 voters per delegate in the case of primaries, and 585 in the case of caucuses), that Hillary delegates and voters are ROBBED of their democratic rights.
on August 26th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
there it is ladies. you saw it with your own eyes. she surrended. welcome back to the new democrat party.
on August 26th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
out of a sense of compassion i will be delivering crying towels to all 30 puma’s. of course they will have obama’s logo on them
on August 26th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
No, t-bone, hold onto your crying towels. You’ll need them in November. Or, lend them to the Republicans. They’re laughing so hard, they’re crying about Obama – he’s a joke.
on August 26th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
good she keep her dels
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:03 am
look who showed up t-hambuger
i guess your done doing your Hail Obamas the day
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:05 am
there it is ladies. you saw it with your own eyes. she surrended. welcome back to the new democrat party.
That speech was more of a prelude to a possibility that the Super are changing their minds, there are rumors that everyone are not in the same page. I will not despair just yet!
BTW….if everything goes well tomorrow, BO should be getting a paper.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:19 am
is the roll call tomorow
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Thursday Boogie. I think, Pres. Clinton speak tomorrow.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:31 am
ok thanks. so whats new rey
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:32 am
from what i hear is that bill is still pissed at the golden boy
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:35 am
i dont think they can controll bill .
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:43 am
dosent it just make you sick to listen to bo & mo
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:49 am
check out this new poll
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
mCCAINS lead just keeps on getting wider
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:52 am
I have been a staunch supporter of both Clinton and Obama since the beginning. Watching Elizabeth Joyce as a democratic representative on Larry King live tonight both sickened and angered me. She came off as a complete imbecile and her failure to answer Larry King’s questions with the exception of the “Senator Obama didn’t court me” response was childish and ludicrous. You could see it in his face that he was embarrassed to even be having a conversation with her. Politics are about backing representatives whose issues you believe in, not refusing to vote if someone doesn’t charm you personally. If McCain gets elected because of people like Elizabeth Joyce failing to vote for their political beliefs, they should not consider themselves democrats.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Ohmygod,Elizabeth Joyce on Larry King! That was the most ridiculous interview I’ve ever seen on Larry King. And I’m a 72 year old woman who watches King every night.
You sound like a scorned woman who needs a boyfriend. Honey sit down. Don’t be so bitter. You are giving women a bad name.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:59 am
Or maybe you should prepare for your interviews a little better.
That was so bad.
I voted for Hillary too- but come on…. we’ve healed and moved on. Even Hillary has moved on enough to publicly support him!
What is wrong with you – pick a better battle.
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:05 am
Love all the OBots here. You’re pushing that same theme all over the net. Please try to be a little less obvious when trolling. Just remember these perhaps famous last words:
“I am confident I will get her votes if I’m the nominee,” Obama stressed. “It’s not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee.”
(01.31.2008)
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:05 am
It’s nice to hear a strong female that’s 72 no less with a good head on your shoulders . . . I’m just upset she was even allowed to be on television. I would have preferred a decent debate with a republican who could actually spar intellectually . . .
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:09 am
by the way . . . I’m a 27 -year old man who has never even been driven to post something until after that interview
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:12 am
whats wrong with you Seaweedjunki you vote for the goldenboy then all the fraud hiis shadey friends him trying to lock out hillary dels from the vote . all the you vote him in ten all this is ok with you.
then next time next time if they llock you out
dont come crying to anyone because it was ok with you that he got here that way
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:16 am
dem08 said whell if its a debate your waiting for uv got a long wait, the golden boy afraid to debate. hes a wuss
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:21 am
yea obama,nit your realy starting to bore me. the golden child is paying good money . at leat you could come up with some new talking points
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:28 am
you tell them, boog’s. I’m fine btw, just rejuvenating and clear my head from all the drama.
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:39 am
no prob rey iv got your back
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:17 am
Well all I can say is Elizabeth Joyce made a fool of herself tonight. She described herself as just a little catholic girl. who didn’t get what she wanted so she is going to vote for McCain. You are by the way, far from being a girl, and you are an embarrassment to the Democratic Party. She has embarrassed the Democratic women all over the country. You think Obama has to earn your vote and you are threatening to vote for McCain if Obama doesn’t woo you. I really don’t care who you vote for but maybe it would be more mature to vote for our Democratic Nominee who has proven to be the person the democrats want to be our next President of the United States. I quess it isn’t important to you what kind of man McCain is… He is a man who has used his power to support George Bush in keeping this war going..a war that is killing thousands of our children, and making our country more hated then any other country in the world. By supporting them you are supporting this war where our children are being used only for the purpose of dying just to make money for George Bush, McCain and all of their rich friends who make money on oil and manufacturing products to keep the war going. Did you ever think that Barack Obama does not owe you anything, especially a private invitation to vote for him. It is your responsibility to educate yourself and vote for the person who will work for the issues that are important to you. Barack Obama is one of the most intelligent, honest man we have seen in politics in a long time. I would love to see a woman president and hopefully we will someday, hopefull in 8 years. Maybe it will be an African American woman. I just hope that your friends involve in this faction to overthrow Obama, would also not support an AA woman for President. That would be quite telling about who your are. Hopefully whether it is Hilary or another woman that runs next time for President, will have the same honorable characteristics of Barack Obama. Now please grow up and listen to Hillary, who shows the she is a great Democratic supporter by endorsing Barack Obama our Democratic candidate for the President of the United States and stop whining and threatening to vote for a man who will continue the war in the Middle East for another “100 years” and most likely before the end of the year invade Iran….. a man who will end abortion rights for woman. .. a man who will decrease the taxes for large corporations….. who will increase the debt of the United States to the point where our great great grandchildren will not be able to pull us out of the debt …. a man who does not care about the poor, about health care, about the common person. . .. a man who has never voted for support and health care and aid for veterans of war although he will use his time in captivity as an excuse for everything he has done in his life. You and your friends need to think about what is important now and move on.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Hi Elizabeth. I saw you on CNN tonight and had to find a way to contact you. I have a question. If Mr. Obama were to call you on the phone and ask you, dare I say, “woo” you for your vote would it change your mind? Honestly? From what you said during your interview, it seems to me your mind is made up and there is nothing he could do, short of moving aside for Hillary that would appease you. I’m sure you’re an intelligent woman and will make a decision come November. Good luck to you.
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:47 am
Does anyone have a way to contact Elizabeth Joyce via e-mail?
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:54 am
Why do so many people care so much about who other people vote for? I don’t care if you vote for Obama or Elvis the crocodile, it won’t change my opinion at all. Mr. Obama has to show me that he is capable of more than winning contests. So far, nothing I’ve seen inspires confidence that he can. Being affiliated with a major party shouldn’t obligate a person to offer blind obedience. But since it seems that is the mindset of the Democrats, as well as their “At least we’re not the other guys” attitude, makes me very comfortable with my decision to re-register as an Independent. No one can tell me who to vote for. And, in my humble opinion, no one should even try.
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:50 am
I fail to see the source of all this bitterness, amidst your bickering you may hand the republicans the presidential elections, and in 4 years when the economy is destroyed, the foreign policy in unrecoverable, hire heels will be a word used to describe the demise of hope form within.
Ladies, look beyond gender and race and do what is right for yourselves and you family present and future.
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:53 am
Or if this doesn’t get through to you…WAKE UP!!! Stop being small minded and do what is right not for your ego but for our country!!
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:56 am
I may not agree 100% with “Juwon” but he has a point, I met Senator Obama last month and he is a good man who will be good president, so come on ladies and vote for Mr Obama!!
Lets show those boys we can look beyond gender and not fail our party!!
on August 27th, 2008 at 6:02 am
Oh my gosh…please Elisabeth…vote for what your qualified for…the local PTA. Why must we curtsy to you and plead for your vote. I never understood why women were not allowed to vote. But now I know why. If you can’t figure it out yourself…go put your apron on and bake a humble pie. This is a Political Party, not a tupperware party. Our judging by this bizzare website, maybe a lingerie party. I have voted Dem. since 1976. I believe in what this party represents. Unfettered capitalism (see de-regulation) is a disaster waiting to happen. Let the money guys&gals run amok without rules and the Machiavellian side comes out…the ends justifies the means…
on August 27th, 2008 at 6:12 am
I saw Elizabeth Joyce on CNN this evening as well, and was dismayed by her behaviour, as well as that of some interviewed delegates on the floor of the pepsi center. This is a continuation of the same strain of virulent degradation of Barack Obama’s character as that woman who proclaimed that she “had had enough of Hussein” while exiting her state’s primary contest.
It’s based on racism, even if they aren’t aware they are being racist.
These people will continue to look for reasons to hate Barack Obama, regardless of anything else. You can debunk their beliefs about him, their own respected leader can appeal to their sensibilities as brilliantly as Hillary did in fact do this evening, and they still will refuse to accept him, a black man, as presidential nominee, much less president. It amazes me that even a small amount of those who claim to support such a magnificent public servant, civil rights advocate and powerful woman such as Hillary Rodham Clinton are unable to equate the plights of african-americans and women as one and the same. History would have been made by democrats this year had either candidate won, an important step for equality and progress the likes of which have never been achieved. People like Elizabeth Joyce threaten this achievement with their reluctance to accept what has come to pass. This is not Obama vs. Clinton anymore, and its not advancement of black people vs. advancement of women. But that one side would claim foul of the other so vehemently stands to allow status quo to deliver us 4 more years of no advancement at all. And, should these “Nobama’s” succeed in playing spoiler in Obama’s presidential run, a rift the likes of which has never been seen, and will never be repaired will open between black people and democracy in general, nevermind the democratic party. This could lead to a sucessive republican monopoly of the presidency, and if this comes to fruition, I ask any of you, what would the likelyhood be of having either a woman or a visible minority achieve presidency in the GOP? Chew on that.
Oh, and Elizabeth Joyce… Obama asks you everytime he speaks to vote for him. So do his supporters, including your idol, HRC. He simply doesnt have time to ask everyone personally, and I think you need to assess your importance in the grand scope of things to discern your need to be asked directly. You simply aren’t that important.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:10 am
good moring everyone
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:14 am
I see one of our own was on the news. I posted last week for all Heels guys and ladies to strap on their seat belts because the invasion of the O supporters is only going to get worse…and as we all see from above I was right. I’m going to end up needing a new mouse, wearing it out scrolling down over them. Read the first line and you know what they are going to say. These people are awful campaigners aren’t they? These people need to go to their nearest Obama campaign office, volunteer for O, and stuff envelopes. Won’t win any of us over here; you are all waisting your time and wearing out my mouse!!
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:17 am
the obama- nuts must really be desperate
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:20 am
its dose look like that dosent it Flowerchild2.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:22 am
tell mes that we are starting to realy get under there skin.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:26 am
There is no point in discussing anything rational with these folks. After the display of over the line reaction and bizarre behavior I have seen on TV when some of these people are asked reasonable questions, I just have to shake my head. We live in a world with many unbalanced souls. They have serious problems and need mental health assistance. That one gal on Chris Matthews the other day that insulted him was really out of touch with reality. She kept changing her answer as he grilled her and then she told him to clean out his ears. What a piece of work. These people are not within the normal range of functioning. It really does take all kinds.
Racistism and prejudice are and always have been symbolic of sick people. Just because Hitler and the Nazis were defeated it doesn’t mean their kind still don’t exist. They do and sadly these people are of that mentality. Although I know Barack is a Christian, it doesn’t matter what anyone is. Religion is a right and a personal choice and Muslims, Jews, Bhuddists, Christians, etc. all have a right be free in the USA. Hello, what is wrong with them? They are SICK!
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Yes, Boogie, they are just freaking out. From the little that I read, the one poster wants us to look deep inside our souls, and ask ourselves if we are not really voting for O because we are racist. Obviously, he/she looked deep inside their soul and found he/she was a racist so he is going to vote for the unaccomplished, inexperienced, Obama to just rip that racism right out of him/her. Then he will go to the altar of Obama, do his penance, and the light will come down on him/her, and in November, he will vote for Obama. I’m glad I’m not a racist, so I don’t have to go there.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:39 am
and here comes another one. She says…”There is no point in discussing anything rational with these folks” …. and then rambles on with a long, long post spouting her views and even charging us with racism and prejudice, and even mentions Hitler? I am very glad that I will be among the
4,050,000 democrats who will not be voting for O in November.
As I said, do something useful, to to your local Obama campaign office and stuff envelopes.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:40 am
i guess they think that when they call us racist & say simply aren’t that important
in post 381 that dude with his sexist comments are not going 2 win over any votes .
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:41 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdhhw-zseu
I hope you all have seen the Hillary delegate on CNN. She is heartfelt and eloquent and reminds us all the best and brightest people support Hillary.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:42 am
look like we got them on the ropes now Flowerchild2 there pulling out all the stops 2night
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:54 am
the call is racist campare us to Hitler one of them evensay “go put your apron on and bake a humble pie. This is a Political Party, not a tupperware party. ” & they think thats going to get us to vote for the goldenboy
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:27 am
So where do you obama supporters get off calling us racists? Really? So you don’t like me. Fine. You didn’t like Elizabeth Joyce on tv. Fine. (Like it or not, she represents lots of people who believe they were actively dissed as voters during the primary. You weren’t? Good for you. But plenty of us were, we were browbeaten and dismissed and belittled–never a good way to win over voters you need in the general, kiddies.)
But this “you’re all a bunch of racists” is bullshit. The fact that I don’t like the way my party treated me during the primary season is not proof that I’m a racist. The fact that I am reluctant to reward Howard Dean’s bad behavior does not make me a racist. You don’t know shit about what I have worked for, supported and stood up for in the rest of my life. The working-class communities where I’ve worked for the public good, including as many people of as many colors, shapes, sizes and backgrounds as I possibly could. The times I’ve made racists around me uncomfortable because I wouldn’t tolerate their behavior. So get stuffed.
And I think we’ve totally invoked Godwin here. Enough with the Nazi references. PUMAs, at least the ones I hang with, haven’t called for the wholesale beating of Obama supporters. I wish I could say the same for the kind of vitriol we’ve received from a select few Obama fans. If you really want us to come around to your way of thinking, you could start by stopping the Nazi comparisons and policing among your own a bit better. The more I’d see that, the more I’d be inclined to forgive the party I’ve beloned to for ages for shitting all over me this year.
However, I will agree with Nikki on one thing. It shouldn’t matter one bit what religion a candidate is, or is not. I’ve said that before publicly (I think) and privately (I know). The intermixing of religion and politics is always trouble.
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:55 am
nice post minx
on August 27th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Thanks, boog
I finally reviewed all of Hillary’s speech from last night. If Obama, his supporters and the DNC power brokers had been as gracious, inclusive, respectful, and focused on the nuts and bolts of why we’re dems as she was in her speech last night, they’d have had my vote locked up ages ago. If they took the decisive action Heidi Li recommends at this post, hell, I might still have room to be convinced.
BTW, I’m going to defend Michelle Obama from the inevitable “smirking” charges she’ll face. The first few cutaways C-SPAN did appeared to show her with a less-than-happy expression. After I saw several other shots from various angles, including ones in which she was clearly happy, it looks to me that her expression just reads that way on camera. Maybe it’s the particular angles in her face and those extraordinary cheekbones–I’d say I could kill her for those cheekbones but I don’t dare lest I be accused of supporting lynching. Why am I defending her? If I’m a feminist, I’ll defend women against b.s. criticisms that men in their positions wouldn’t face.
on August 27th, 2008 at 9:19 am
yes, Manolo. I agree. You always post brilliantly. Unfortunately though, I think it is above their “pay grade” to comprehend.
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:22 am
minxy, you gotta get over the “all the men are evil and holding me back” crap. it gets old after awhile. taking away all the things that hillary mentioned in her speech about obama, that was clearly the best speech I have ever heard hillary give. that is the hillary that people wanted to see in the primary. instead she ran as a cold stiff policy wonk man (kind of like gore only female). if the person that gave that speech last night would have showed up in the primary, she would have won the nomination walking away (even with the supposed anti-women media bent).
as for: ” If you really want us to come around to your way of thinking, you could start by stopping the Nazi comparisons and policing among your own a bit better.”
you clearly have some nutso wacko racist followers among you bunch and i see you call them out sometimes but not very often.
besides you don’t want to come around to anything regardless of what hillary or anyone says so why bother?
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:23 am
whell theres is nothing they could do to convince me of coming back.
puma power
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:28 am
t-hamburger its the golden boys job to try & get us to come over. not the other way around.
as far as Nazi comparisons looks like you havent read you buddy obama-not post this mornings.
go pumas
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:54 am
T-bone, darling, who the hell are you to tell me what I do or don’t want? Or that I hate men? (Don’t tell that to my boyfriend. He’ll be crushed. So will all my guy-buddies, all of whom are die-hard Dems. Some agree with my take on things, some don’t, but all respect why I think the way I do, and I respect them, too. Wish I could say the same for you.)
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:13 am
so sensitive minxy. i’m not telling you anything. i’m just willing to bet you won’t change your mind because that would mean you were and are wrong.
you gals have little credibility. if the sd would have gone a few votes the other way, none of this would be happening. all the things you perceive to be wrong about they system and media and anything else that you are currently outraged about would have never happened. that is hypocritical.
you and your crew are just making up stuff now. enjoy you 15 minutes, its going away…tick…tick…tick…
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:19 am
t-bone: Obviously you have never seen the money that Obama threw at the SD’s. It’s on politically drunk with power, a real list of all the “contributions” O gave them. It’s legal, but needs to be changed.
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:25 am
flower, the clintons are masters at the game. everyone threw money around. the clintons have earned tons of favors which they called in.
if you can figure out a way to get money out of politics, i’ll vote for you.
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:31 am
“But, but Hillary told you to!” Such a mature, rational reason to vote for someone. “What’s next, “You just don’t like me!?” Okay, check. Then, of course there’s, “You’re all just mean!” Ever wonder why it doesn’t work?
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Elizabeth, I hope you come back home. This is still our family even though we are in a difficult place. You and I both know that the rich party er republicans don’t give a rats ass about our issues. I would like to apologize for all the insensitive idiots out there in cyberspace. As a black man, i know what you are feeling.
ps
some of these bloggers are republicans….divide and conquer…why give them the satisfaction
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
T-BONE: I think I know how badly you want O to win. But he has thrown unseen amounts of money at the SD’s. Senator Clinton make her contributions to the other politicians ambitions too too, it’s legal for them to contribute, but….the timing is in question and the amounts he gave sometimes tripled what Senator Clinton gave.
You can’t buy your way into the White House, t-bone. You can’t cheat your way in either. It just doesn’t work that way.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
flower she raised a quarter of a billion dollars. if she got outspent, that is her fault, not obamas.
the primary was hers to lose and she lost. everyone here wants to blame it on something else: obama, the media, sexism, experience. she doesn’t have anyone to blame except herself for running a poor campaign.
all she had to do was stay positive and speak to people like she did last night and she would be the nominee today and I would be voting for her.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
you guys dont get
. we can think for ourselfs unlike you obama-sheep that will do anything that the chosen one ask
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
as far as i dont know why any of you obama-nuts votes for him .
but hes changed his mine so many times it makes your head spin. & where he stands now . ill bet kicked you to the curb as soon as he got your votes.
so why did any of you obama,nits vote for him
tells why. you 1st t-hambuger
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
t-bone: No one has blamed the money raising on Obama. Not us and not Senator Clinton. If I had one shred of confidence that Obama would succeed, I would vote for him. But he is going in so unprepared that he is set up to fail. We can’t afford another failed democratic administration and certainly not with a minority. If he fails, and I believe he will, we won’t see a woman, or a minority candidate for another 200 years. And what that will do for our party…we will get locked out just as we did after the Carter Administration. After President Clinton, the dems finally got some credibility. We can’t blow it now with someone as unprepared as Obama. I am sorry the democrats did this to you, to all of us.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
you just accused him of trying to buy his way into the whitehouse and now its not about money but experience and confidence? its always one thing or another flower…next it will be the dean or rules committee or sexism or the media…always someone else to blame except for the one responsible.
the majority of the democratic party believes he is ready. being the first lady doesn’t qualify you to be president.
playing hide and go seek with an intern in the whitehouse didn’t exactly do wonders for the party and cost gore the presidency.
i’m amazed that you are still willing to turn your back on the person you claim to support after her speech last night.
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
ok here we go again -t-hambuger why did you vote for the chosen one
on August 27th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
come on -t-hambuger this is your big moment what did he say
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
t-hambuger cat got your toung ?
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
t-bone; you’re getting hostile again. T-bone, he thew a lot of money around to the SD’s. That’s all I am saying because you brought it up. I am focusing on one aspect…for a minority, and women are a minority, to get through that glass ceiling, they have to play it cleaner, better, and stronger than anyone else. I am going to repeat…..if he fails, that glass ceiling is going to go back up. It won’t be just glass; it’s going to be the Hurricane shatter proof glass – the kind that a palm tree can hit and the glass doesn’t break.
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
i didn’t bring up throwing lots of money at sds.
thats a bs argument. so if hillary failed as president wouldn’t it be the same result? by your logic we should have gone with wonder bread edwards and look where we would be.
obama was the freakin editor the harvard law review, the top law school in the country. he is no dummy.
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
still cant give us a reason can t-hambuger
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Yes, T- it would be the same for her if she failed. There’s just one difference; and I know your going to get angry but this is the reason. She’s prepared. And you are right, Senator Obama is very smart; he’s more than smart, he’s intelligent.
on August 27th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
i guess it was just asking to much to get you to give a reason that you voted for him.
now thats preety sad
t-bone
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
In my observation. You guys have all the chances to convinced everyone here that they were part of the party for 3 months. Now that the numbers are no longer in your favor, it becomes necessary to humiliate yourself from the point of begging for our votes or decide to play nice, as if we are deprived of attention and intellect. Nice try! but I think it’s to late for that.
Perhaps and hopefully, now you guys understand that it wasn’t very wise to say, We don’t need them hack! we can win without them” that wasn’t long ago and everyone here remember those bitter words and the insults are still lingering on this blogs and many others.
Senator Clinton is an intellectual woman whose judgement I can trust. Her friendship of John MacCain speaks volume of the man character and their respect for each other despite of the differences in views, which are not many, is something to consider. She was magnificent last night for sure, even when it hurts. However, she made her choice and I think she realized that we are capable of making our choice as well.
So please obots, you guys had your chance. There are no short bus rider here, so hit the trail. we are capable of making our own mind.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
oops! forgot the closing tag.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
FWC2 – you are giving BO to much credit. He can’t even remember how many states we have or find his BC. T-bone is a deceiver just like him. Guys who likes to manipulate women or people to get what they want.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
t-bone cant even tell us why he backs obama/
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
i didn’t understand a thing you just said.
flower, how many years of being first lady makes you qualifed to be president?
billy boy kept having affair after affair after affair after affair. doesn’t judgment trump experience at some point?
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Boogie wants you to answer T.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
T-bone: Boogie wants to know why you are backing Obama.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
he makes no sense so i cant be bothered.
obama has a really nice website if he is interested learning about his vast experience.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
T-bone: why do you back Obama. Boogie’s right. You never have actually said.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Hey, what’s up with my computer???
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
flowerchild (child), boogie(man), minx(a humorous, or derogatory, an impudent, cunning or boldly flirtatious girl or young woman) and princess elizabeth joyce. (The women I worked with in the 60′s and 70′s from the women’s movement are turning over in their graves, if they are no longer with us and the ones that are, are just embarrassed. I wrote a note last night after Elizabeth embarrassed us all as a woman during her interview. But you are right, it is a waste of our time to even try to communicate with you.. The few people you will influence are not worth dealing with. I don’t know where you got that outrageous number of people who will not vote democratic because Hillary didn’t win, but you are living in some fairy tale world if you believe this. I brought up important points about what will happen if the republicans win the presidency, but you really don’t care about the issues. The few followers you have will start dropping off very fast from now on and I recommend to everyone, including t-bone, to please stop reading or responding to this and other blogs that puma or elizabeth joyce support. This is such a waste of our time.. so please move on and use your time on more important issues. This is the last time for me.. you definitely are not worth it.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
obama was the freakin editor the harvard law review, the top law school in the country. he is no dummy.
GW is the president, what’s your point about harvard. People can only educated within limit of their intellect. Beyond that, it’s a waste money. Where did you graduate T-bone?
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
obama was clearly the more thoughtful and articulate of the two. he offered a greater vision for change. other than healtcare all i knew about hillary was that she was against obama.
like what was said the other night, the gop and hrc hoped to split the vote and then manage to get get 51 % of the vote and are content with leading like that. obama will change the map and bring in more people to the party.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
rey i still cant understand you. my point is obama didn’t get to where is today by chance or luck. the guy is qualified by any measure to be president of the u.s.
i graduated from macalester college in st. paul, mn. Go Scots!
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
lela, normally i would agree. however, its good entertainment to see folks flailing around…these folks have very good imaginations…
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Lol…Obama copied her blueprint and all you can speculate is that his was better. Madness!
Gop and hrc? you guys are delusional.
obama will change the map and bring in more people to the party.
how is that possible when the numbers contradict that. You mean to say, that he will bring more garbage to the party.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
You know they keep saying they’re going to leave, and then they don’t. Why is that?
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
last time i checked more voters and more delegates agreed with me. let me check again…yep…i’m still right….you lost.
on August 27th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
you mean scoot?
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
it must suck for you guys huh? i feel your pain, well not really.
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
As I said before, if your conscience and moral values as an american can’t distinguish the immoral of the primary and this man. You are part of the problem of this country either Dems or Repubs. You may think this man is qualified to your standard T-bone but, not to some of us who knows that Hillary is and will always be the better choice.
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Why is it that these people invade our site, promise to leave and then show up again? And where did all these strong arm, beat you up type attacks come from? I think it’s the example that’s been set..if it’s okay to accuse a former President of racism; if it’s okay to muscle down, degrade, ridicule, and demean a Senator running for President, then that sends a signal to use those types of tactics on the voters.
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Yes it sucks…..and you shouldn’t be here, else I wont get any work done.
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
They don’t get us Flowerchild….bottom line.
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
that is about the only thing you said that made any sense rey.
on August 27th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
you mean the only thing you hear. You are funny guy, dude.
on August 27th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Update: 50 state roll call will continue. Delegates threatened walk out if stopped.
on August 27th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
So what you are saying is that Hillary is full of sh*t
If you are a woman, and you support Hillary and you believe in Hillary, then you must now understand that it is time to lay down your arms. Listen to her. She wants you to vote for Barack Obama, with every breath of her being. Did she fight for all of you for nothing?
She asked you if you were “just supporting me, or were you supporting that young marine…” and all of the causes that Hillary as been fighting for her entire life. Are you going to let her down? Are you really going to vote for John McCain or anyone other than? It will have to be a secret, because if Hillary finds out, she will be very disappointed in you.
And keep this in mind: Joe Biden created the Violence Against Woman Act and John McCain voted against it.
Put your passion along side Hillary’s and get out the vote for Barack Obama!
on August 27th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
its obvious you pumas are not democrats you are so out of touch with the democrat party. do us all a favor go where you belong to the republican party. this party has moved on you are stuck on yesterday. all you feminists are worried about is womens issues you are so out of touch. goodbye you are the weakest link.
on August 27th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
It is sad to watch them cut off their noses to spite their face.
on August 27th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
If you’re not Republicans, you’re certainly their tools:
Hillary Clinton lost the nomination because she ran a bad, uninspired campaign. Period. Just like just like Al Gore in 200 and John Kerry in 2004. She had EVERY advantage — from the support of most of the party establishment to a 30-point lead in the polls only six months ago. She didn’t articulate one clear, original vision for the future of the country. Universal Healthcare is wonderful, but every Dem running for President endorsed that idea.
The reason people gravitate to Obama is simple: We understand that a political resume — and John Kerry’s was far longer and more impressive than Hillary’s — doesn’t win elections. More importantly, in doesn’t guarantee good judgement. It’s the person, stupid. Hillary voted FOR the Iraq War. A calculated decision to look strong on National Security. She was wrong. Obama, meanwhile, spoke publicly against it.
As for people who say that Obama can’t win, and that Hillary would have a better chance against McCain: You’re delusional. There is no figure in politics that inspires more vitriol among conservatives than Hillary Clinton. You want to see real party unity? See what would’ve happened to the GOP if they had to go against Hillary. Hardcore evangelicals and agnostic Liberterians would’ve been standing arm in arm to see her lose.
Finally, let’s once and for all dispense with the myth that Hillary is so experienced, shall we? She has one (1) more term as a Senator than Obama. Before that, she was First Lady — not an appointed or elected office. As Chris Rock says, he’s been married to his wife for 8 years, but it doesn’t make her good at telling jokes.
I respect the hell out of Hillary Clinton, but she should’ve voted her conscience (against the war). She should’ve run a campaign that took some risks and articulated real, original ideas. Instead, she played it safe and — like Kerry — lost because of it.
Barack Obama is not the second coming. Like Hillary, he is a politician. But he has an essential skill that neither Hillary, Gore, nor Kerry possessed: The ability to forcefully respond to criticism without taking it personally — or personally attacking his opponent. The last politician with that skill was Bill Clinton. And we all know what happened there.
on August 27th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
hey obama.nite why was biden a good pick for vp & why did you obama,nite back the chosen-one
on August 27th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
what time is the roll call
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
was it good judgment tp pick & guy that been in the senate londer than any other dem , was it good judment to pick & guy that voted for the war. was it goog judgement to vote againts the visa bill a then pick biden someone that voted for it.
he picked the type of guy that he warned obama-nation of.
in other words he sold you out .
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
come on obama,nits tell us how all that was good judgement
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
atta boy sebastian, that will have them reeling for awhile.
unfortuanately, the hh gals are the only ones who could put up any resistance and since they are busy schmoozing other malcontents, there will likely be little or no response.
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002940495
hillary dels fight on
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
ok t-hamburger tell all how that was good judgment
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
hrc was sore loser and biden wasn’t = good judgment pick.
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
so now your saying the goldenboys had bad judgment right
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
sure, i can tell you. he’s a politician. he knows that biden’s credibility as foreign policy expert is necessary and helpful. that’s how it works. it’s called being pragmatic. biden was wrong about going to war, absolutely, but he may be the only one of the former candidates that has deep knowledge of the dynamics of the shiite/sunni/kurd divisions in iraq. that’s valuable. beyond that, one important role of the VP candidate during the campaign is to go after other party’s nominee so the presidential candidate can talk about the issues. to this day biden still has the best, most effective line against guiliani when he was the front-runner: “a subject, a verb, and 9/11, what else has this guy got?”
on August 27th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
biden is the type of guys thats been in washinton forever hes just the guy that obama has told you that you dont want & that hes not.
just face it he lied to you . as soon as he got your vote
he sold you out
on August 27th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Flower child, this not about the nominee. It is getting the Rep. out of office. Hillary became a cartoon char. as the inevetable was approahing. Oh, do you want somebody to be Pres. who signed an agreement, Re: Michigan,Florida, then reneged on it in her pathetic attempt to gerrymander a greater, meaningless… aaaObama wasn’t even on Mich. ballot, popular vote. Character is defined by what you do when no one is watching. Interesting phrasing on how to put seat belt on
on August 27th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Flower child this not about the candidate, it is about ridding ourselves of the Rep. Party. So if you and all high heelers are serious about politics this is a no brainer…quite your pathetic I was cheated whinning and vote the party line. Oh, on the subject of cheating, Ms Hillary SIGNED the agreement regarding Mich. & Florida. Then goes and tries to count the votes to claim nomination based on basically, fraudulent info. That right there cost her all respect she had garnered, in more ways than you can imagine. Political career over and out..and you are kidding yourselves if don’t think so. She made a mockery of the campaign process and allowed McCane(sic) to gain traction. So please all of don’t pull a ralph nader on us…that brilliant “I will show you” stradegy gave us Bush instead of A Gore. Imagine the last 8 years w/Gore instead of Bush. If that doesn’t convince you then just write Gloria Allred in as your candidate. She will fit right in with this crowd.
on August 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
the dems cut it off before the got texas
that mean everyone in my state is a 0
dont expext me to vote dem again
until they returne to demcracy .
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
the dems think they had problems before that nothing to whats comeing .soon.
every state that was not counted is a 0
in the eyes of the dems
just rember that in nov
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
we “invaded” your website because we were sitting in our living room, watching larry king…..then this….elizabeth joyce came on…..and….wow….it was nauseating listening to her.
“he has to court/woo me”- I’m sure he would love to, but he is married and I don’t think he has enough time in a day to go “court” each and every voter in the country. I don’t think hillary has that kind of time either. btw, I’m surprise anybody still uses that word…..’court’.
“I don’t just give my vote on a first date”- ??? are you for real??? this would be really cute if this was a boy/girl, dating thing. sounds like me and my girlfriends talking about guys and dating.
I’m sure your clinton supporters will defend you no matter what anybody says, but I bet they cringed…..just a little….watching you on larry king last night…..unless you guys are all like that.
and when you said obama never asked for your vote, larry king said……”is that not what obama does everytime he speaks?”. that’s what clinton does, too. then elizabeth acknowledges she only listened to obama speak once.
the way she sounded on tv….. doesn’t it make you feel like she’s waiting for obama to drop by her place and ask her out? I mean…..’court’ her?
and then she said a big reason why she’s throwing a tantrum was because of the treatment she received by obama’s group during the campaign trail. hmmmm……there was a competitiion going on and one goal. were you guys nice to the other side?
don’t know if anyone notices, but say something negative here about clinton supporters, and you get threatened by hireheels to be kicked out of this site because she pays the bills here. but…..clinton supporters can knock, bash, insult, offend all they want. and then they correct people’s grammar when they should be looking at their own entries. hypocrites.
we’re not on your site to rain on your parade. we just happened to have caught elizabeth on larry king and wanted to fall off our chairs. and while she’s not really answering any of larry king’s questions, she’s got this weird smile thing going on. smile. don’t smile. look agitated. fake smile again. that was strange.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
anytime anybody stops a vote in the middel when i fits them before all the vote are counted
there is only one word for that.
rigged
puma powerr
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Thanks for your comments spin. Try doing a blind interview sometime when you can’t see (because there is no monitor) or barely hear the interviewer. I could have said that Senator Obama lacked the experience to lead our country/ be commander and chief, that his nomination was a selection by fraudulent means (which is what Mr. King wanted by the way). I did not follow the Republican’s lead, I tried to leave the door open for a bridge, obviously you and those like you continue to wash that bridge away. I have seen Senator Obama speak more than once, but only once live. His speech on that occasion was not impressive, but I look forward to his speech tomorrow night. It is his job now, not Senator Clinton’s; she did her piece. Although the democratic party no longer needs us according to Ms. Brazille. Congratulations to Senator Obama on what we realize is a historic occasion for our country.
— scl
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Obama remains a flimsy little demagogue (look it up in the dictionary, obots) who won by rigging the primary. Mccain at age 70-something has already smacked O down and that’s going to continue until the GE or until he has the decency, the concern for dem policies, and good sense to turn over the race to the other adult, Hillary. He blew it.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
ok girls and guys @ hire heels its time for fuzzy’s plan “b” i am floating this as a trial balloon here:
Its operation given the finger:
OK I hope this is the time we need to get murphy or RD or even someone to help me…ASAP we need to start a:
“DRAFT HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT 2012″
fund or organization-NOW so we can start writing checks-On November 5th!
The only way to stop a REPEAT OF THE SHAM IN 2012 is to have a warchest of $ 250-500 million!
It would infuriate the DNC to have to run a campaign this fall if we run a parallel fundraising campaign for 2012 it would show the DNC in a material way that we PUMA/JSND Alliance members have written off Obama/Biden 2008 and have “MOVED ON” and “GOT OVER IT” just not in the way they wanted.
We need to also run a non-violent peaceful campaign of non-cooperation with the DNC at the same time.
We need 18 million Hillary supporters to look far ahead to 2012.
We need to have our game plan in place so on September 1, 2011 our campaign fund with $ 250 -$ 500 million plus dollars foces us a place at the table.
Think $ 2300/42 months is $ 54.76 per month is what it works out to. I think poor ol’me could do it!
It may not be good to start this fund raising this fall but we should have the mechanisms in place for a start on November 5th 2012.
I do not think a Draft Hillary Committee even needs Hillary’s cooperation. One thing I did learn form Obama was Money Talks!
I hope I can get some help here for this….
What does anyone think?
Fuzzybeargville…
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
we “invaded” your website because we were sitting in our living room, watching larry king…..then this….elizabeth joyce came on…..and….wow….it was nauseating listening to her.”
Obama makes me feel that way everytime he open his mouth. I don’t run to his blog and post what I think of him …….go figure. You guys need to get a real life, the realty of koolaid supply will end soon enough either he win or loses in the general.
Whoever is elizabeth joyce on this site, you did well and don’t let these apportunist pest make you beleived it otherwise.
on August 27th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Is there anyone besides myself who do not see any connection whatsoever, between high heeled shoes for women and being upset about some political election?…….anyone who would vote based on “shoes” doesn’t deserve to enjoy the privilege of voting, period.
Politics is a rough and tumble playing field amd HILLARY certainly kept up a long hard battle, she almost, almost actually pulled it off. However, there can only be ONE winner – she simply didn’t receive as many delegates to win, so she lost. Being RICH, was what kept HILLARY in the race but, I find it offensive that RICH PEOPLE who gamble their own money for some reason feel it’s perfectly reasonable to ask people to give her even more money, so she can pay off the loans she made to herself.
Many other candidates, when the money runs out, so does their campaign. RICH PEOPLE, like Romney, Perot and HILLARY can keep their campaign going to the bitter end, by spending their own millions.
Barrack supporters do not owe HILLARY a single dime, period. It would be very NICE if some Obama supporters wrote checks to HILLARY, to pay off her millions of loans she gave her own campaign from her own wealth but, if she thinks many are going help a millionaire regain millions that they could afford to gamble, gamble it, lose the gamble then have the NERVE to ask others to give them the money they lost on their personal gamble, is absolutely INSANE……RICH PEOPLE THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF US, I suppose.
Don’t worry, in time, you’ll get another opportunity to vote for a female Clinton, perhaps even for the office of PRESIDENT, – what do you think they are grooming Chelsea for a career in…????????
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
stfu
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
you obama-nuts realy are st***** .insult the girls the put it together insult the name of this site . you use sexist & raciest comment diffracted at us & you think that you have tell us we have to vote for this pied piper of yours you are .delusional
go pumas
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
that’s right that pathetic candidate lost and her feminist friends are angry as hell. they just figured out that they have been used for their votes for a long time. we never did care what ya’ll had to say. we don’t need you anymore. we will win without you. tired of putting up with all of the nagging we hurd from you. we better and stronger without you.
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
i just want to let all the girls of hh
that went to front lines in denver to fight for democracy princess ,sista &, piper & minx
that the boogieman is proud you
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
you dont need us. BLACKPOWE
just rember that when the country gose red in nov 4th
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Brilliant, rey. Simply brilliant rebuttal. I guess your political science skill sets and communication talents lead you to present yourself so eloquently as to say, “stfu”…….hahaha…….thin skin, rey, thin skin……
Rey, let me ask you a simple question? Do you realize that HILLARY earned hundreds of thousands of dollars per year for many years, for sitting on WALMARTS board of directors? This was during time line window, while WALMART was agressively sourcing cheaper product from 3rd world countries, helping to ship American manufacturing jobs overseas permanently, hile having the gall to market products from China, for instance, with RED WHITE AND BLUE colors as if they are US OF A manufactured products. WALMARTS massive expansion and overseas sourcing has contributed to hundreds of communities losing locally owned shops due to WALMART invading and stealing the locals shoppers through price competition. WEvery time, WALMART would change theface of the town they entered. HILLARY, sat on WLAMARTS board, got rich with huge sums of pay as well as enjoyed a substantial wealth from stock options and the the like.
Do you realize how many American WOMEN lost jobs and only offered lower paying jobs with NO HEALTH COVERAGE, because WALMART was the only jobs now available since WALMART opened up and resultantly local businesses closed. Do you realize that? Do you know that she became RICH because of her time with WALMART? Isn’t that kind of self serving of her?…..
Just curious. It’s easy to get caught up in an election, even caught up in a candidate but, most candidates have a HISTORY that can be researched?,,,,,Did you ever look back and research HILLARY’s past employment history. Do you remember, the Monica Bill fiasco was the conclusion of a investigation over a land deal of HILLARY”s where people LOST money, yet she MADE MONEY……?????
I’m just curious, how much brainwashing goes on, or do people actually take the time to keep involved over LONG periods of time and remember the history behind the candidates as they float through the careers………
Doyou realize Biden has Son’s fighting in our middle eastern wars? I didn’t see Chelsea run to the recruitment office and sign up to fight after our country was attacked. Biden’s son’s are in the line of fire……for that matter, so does John McCain…….HILLARY, no family in the line of fire……???? do you know that?????
EDUCATED YOURSELF…..READ MULTIPLE SOURCES, and MAKE YOUR OWN REASONED EVALUATION AFTER GETTING SEVERAL INPUTS OF INFORMATION……..TRUST BUT VERIFY……
just a tip,
Good luck Rey, and I hope you ffind a more eloquent fashion to express yourself but, that’s your choice……STFU, hahahahaha, that’s about the extent of the POST RATIONAL HILLARY SUPPORTERS wanting to be courted and dated for their votes now….hahahaha……wake up, rey, you now have two valid choices…….BARRAK or JOHN…….vote JOHN you are voting against WOMEN’s RIGHTS and voting against your own self interests. However, whatever you feel you want, do……it’s that simple…….
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
dats right we on the inside eating and drinking the best. we gonna party at the white house. poor white trash done loss da white hiuse. hahahahaha
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Boogie, you did great with the delegates. You worked really hard on that. And we are proud of sista, piper, princess and manalo for all the hard work. It’s not easy to stand up for what you believe. We are all proud of you. And we all worked so hard and did our part(s) I’m in for 2012, Fuzzy. Okay, I’m over it, and ready to move forward and keep on keepin’ on.
Rey and Boogie thanks for backing me up today. I agreed with everything you were posting; I was just trying to be nice.
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Let me put eloquently for you. Shut the F****ck UP!
on August 27th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
By the way Keith, myspace is ghey.
on August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Rey, Elizabeth was HORRENDOUS on larry king last night. Larry kept asking reasonable questions and all Elizabeth did was make statements about “NOT VOTING ON A FIRST DATE” type of irrational comments of such type. Elizabeth even stated ON AIR, that she expected a lot of “nasty email tomorrow”…….
Who says something like that, unless deep down they know the position they are representing is not a popular point of view and ruffled feathers will make their views known.
Isn’t that EXACTLY why Elizabeth Joyce went on larry king in the first place? To state her point of view? Elizabeth even provided the web site address, so why is it surprising to Elizabeth, or to members of this site, that in fact people came to the web site SHE promoted on a national program and stated their points of view in reply to her appearance.
Duck and get out of the line of fire, or expect to be fired upon. Elizabeth was well aware of what response she has received. Personally, opposing opinions being posted are far an away more constructive, detailed and well thought out, than any of the HIREHEELS gang have given us in return.
Do you only want a ONE sided opinion, without a single naysayer to stand up and state their views in kind? It’s called a CONVERSATION, give and take…….
Respect is EARNED, not demanded…..respect is commanded through earning respecting others as you would like them to respect you.
If you truly RESPECT HILLARY and support her personally as well as professionally, then you must hear what she is now saying over and over. If you supported me, than it’s time to start supporting Obama so that john McCain does not win. Hillary even listed in detail all the various issues effecting women and the potential negative effect of a Republican victory, including ROE/Wade (can you say back alley abortions?) Mother’s son’s lives in the line of fire of a irrational Iraq war, a war of choice forced upon our nation by the republicans through the manipulation of keeping american in FEAR? Do those mother’s who son’s and daughters have died, were severely wounded or lost limbs want their children in a massive mistake resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths? Is that what Mother’s want from their President?
Now go watch Bill give his speech and enjoy HILLARY’s husband, our former president.
on August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
yea im proud of all of the guy & gals at hh
your right its not easy
on August 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
keith scince you dont need us why dont you get of this site.& follow your pied piper to the cliff the hes leading you over
on August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Keith have the decency and take a hint. If you and I are in face to face right now, I guarantee you would not have the audacity to pursue this conversation. So please……….
on August 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
this is our country now. its time you gives us reparations. leave the keys to the car in the house. thats a nice house you worked hard for us. thank you we will be moving in jan. 20 we will have jobs for you you can come over and cut the grass at the houses you give us. we gonz to the house americas chickens have come home to roost. you miss treated our great grampas now its our turn
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Hey, Rey…….you make my points for me better than I could ever myself. Thank you.
Look in the mirror Rey, look in the mirror. you can’t answer a direct question with an on topic direct response. just Shut the 8888 up……amazing…..go get an education, Rey, it might help you state your points of view so that the world that surrounds you hears intelligence rather than a potty mouthed sourpuss…..
I’m loving life, doing my thing and happy Hillary didn’t win, I’m sick of this country being goverend between two familys, rather than two parties……bushclintonbushclinton….that’s what happens to the governments of 3rd world nations like Africa, the soviets, natzi’s etc…….it was time to break free of both the bush family and the clinton family in the white house…….
Good riddance…..
However, if hillary was the better candidate and held stronger policy positions, I might have voted for her but, she never gave me any reason to vote for her, other than an air of “it’s supposed to be mine” wha wha wha……..
Obama is going to be the start of a long climb out of the dark valley our country sits in due to the two Bush terms….Let’s wish OUR country well and hope for the best…..I support OUR COUNTRY, not a party nor an individual candidate – ,,,,,,,,,,nor gender……
BTW – try using go suck and egg, just for a change in pace from STFU….hahahahahahahahaha
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
rev wrong .reparations. shut the f*** up abought reparations.
my great granfather was in the union army
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
get my drift .mabey i should ask for reparations from you.
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
why dont you go do some hail obamas or something , & off this site.
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Rey, you are wrong again…….if we were face to face, I would fully engage and debate anyone……education, command of facts and yes respect for those who may not agree with you on all issues.
Rey, you wanted a woman president, didn’t happen…so, what? is that MY fault?.,,,,are you discharging your disappointment and anger inappropriately towards someone who isn’t afraid of the discussion. POLY SCI MAJOR< can you read that…….I bet you don’t realize I owned my own California corporation successfully built it into handling over 25 million in annual sales, sold out and can now enjoy making music……Don’t judge any book by it’s cover……I’m 43, I wasn’t born yesterday and you are not the first irrational female, or male for that matter, PERSON, that I’ve faced off against.
Screaming and yelling and holding your breath till your face turns blue, isn’t going to change the fact, that HILLARY lost……your dynamics are similar to a 3rd grade recess…..no I’m not, you are, no I’m not you are……opps, tiime for an afternoon nap so I don’t get cranky….
ahahahaha
I assure you, Rey, face to face, the out come would be identical…..I just hope you don’t succumb to hitting me over the head with your high heels, out of intellectual frustration…….other than that, no, I would say the same things in the same manner and wouldn’t accept swearing in a rational debate……..if you can’t respect yourself and your presentation to the world, don’t expect anyone to respect you either…….
You know my site, you kow how to contact me…..go right ahead…..threats are meaningless…..facts, reality and truth are the only critical factors…..from the sounds of it, you really didn’t know about HILLARY working for WALMART, nor did you realize BIll’s Monica affair problems came to be because of an investigation over one of HILLARY”s land deals, it’s called WHITE WATER and you can google it and read up on it, because HILLARY’s skirts are far from pure white, Rey….sorry to dissappoint you…..
God bless and I hope you can find a way past your internal demons and outward anger…..lashing out from frustration will get you no where and hlep you lose respect from those you do not wish to lose their respect……..personal choices, all of them….do as you wish, it’s a free country..
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
ok kitty keith why did you back the pied piper . was its change or was it new type of politcs . or mabey that hope BS hes sold you on / or sold you out.
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
ok kitty keith why did you back the pied piper . was its change or was it new type of politcs . or mabey that hope BS hes sold you on / or sold you out.
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
boggieman, I have every right to an opinion and being here as you do……unless I’m mistaken, Elizabeth advertized this site on national tv last night….
That’s the HILLARY freak for you, can’t stand the heat, can’t address issues, resort to insults and avoid answering direct questions……yep, fine bunch, I’m sure you all will get a candidiate into the white house some day, perhaps just after scoody doo……..
You want a private site, make it one……otherwise I will go were I darn well please and respectfully voice my personal opinions with pride …….
You guys keep making yourselves look like poor losers…….sportsmanship is congratulating the winner and rooting for whom you want to win…….
S, no I will say what I have to say, and I encourage you to do the same….
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
still didnt answer my question
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
still didnt answer my question
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
its time for you hilry girls to leave now. thanks for the website we will be using it now to help president obama transition to the presidency
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
come on you can do it kitty
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
evertime i ask why you obama-nuts voted for him you cant give an answer
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
i waiting obama-nuts
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
how is biden a new type of politician?
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
besides, I piss people off, because I do have command of the issues and debate politely……..HIREHEELS is the exact opposite…..
Just thank tje attentioin seekng Elizabeth for going on larry king, other wise, I would never have stopped by in the first place……always two side of a sword……I hope she enjoyed her 15 minutes and all that follows including people like me, asking REAL ISSUE QUESTIONS, which you folks are seemingly incapable of addressing, period……..
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
mabey when the chosen 1 said hes a new type of politician? he realy ment somebody that dosent know jack & has no idea what or how to do anything
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
still cant answer a simple question
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
it’s amazing that obamatrons are as vitriolic as ever, despite the rigged “win”. when hillary referred to ‘dogs’ in her speech, i suspect she was alluding to the media and some of the foaming-at-the-mouth obama supporters.
thank you, keith, for recognizing that it’s a free country. i thought that was the first idea eradicated at camp obama.
while all politicians are more or less corrupt, by the time the repubs are finished with obama, he’ll be featured on “america’s most wanted” . he’s a dream come true for republicans. as far as war opposition goes, did any of you raise a fuss when pelosi took impeachment off the table. oh, that’s right, obama needed pelosi for strong-arming the delegates. so we’ll let a few more young people die and be maimed for the sake of supporting obama, the ‘anti-war when it’s convenient’ candidate.
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
asking real questions . you got to be kidding me. you cant even answer a simple question. i new you obama-nut where slow learner .
i thought could answer that answer that question.
but i guess that was asking to much.
my bad
on August 27th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Your question, I ignored because you called me kitty keith….I thought that must have been the pussy under your love seat, how was I to know you were addressing me?……
I personally was for Biden from the start, and not Obama…..and R\on Paul is just as frank and in command of the issues as someone like me, though I would have a hard time voting republican to support him. What I find encouraging about Obama, is that his background is as a constitutional scholar. Our country has strayed so far off the map of our constitution, to the point of illegal dissemination of propaganda domestically, and the the domestic wiretapping is flat criminal….
Barrack is the only candidate who gives me hope that his respect for the constitution gives air to the potential of trying to work hard to get our country back to honoring our own laws, starting with the constitution……Otherwise, look at russia and you can see what future a lawless government will ultimatley drag America down to……it’s time to RESPECT THE LAWS, ITS TIME TO RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION…..IT”S TIME TO RESPECT YOUR ADVERSARIES and realize, ultimately WE are ONE and ON he SAME TEAM….Team USA…….
Hillary was never in contention for my cote, I just have never taken to her, ever, though the best prosperous years of my adult life was during Bill’s two terms. Al Gore was whom I was hoping would come to the party but, he learned that politics requires to much daily abuse….and look at what he’s doing now……NOBLE PEACE PRIZE and leading the charge on trying to save the atmosphere of our planet, so all living beings can survive man’s abuses to the panet…….AL, was my man….
Obama came out of no where and only first heard about him at hte DNC covention of 2004,,,,,I though considering OSAMA bin LADEN, Barrack Obama wouldn’t have a chance ….but his speech at the convention inspired me to keep a eye on him and just take note of his positions…….
So, while you seeminly BOOGIE MAN, are trying to paint me as a rabid Obama supporter, its just not the entire truth……I voted him and glad he won but, there would be no way I would be goiingg on larry king acting like an uneducated idiot whining about Obama losing…….
Elizabeth did.
RATIONAL DEBATE is constructive….not destructive……how people like Rey and even yourself, BOOGIE MAN, use insults and refuse to address issues, is beyond me…..particularly the day after going on national TV and promoting your site as a place for reasonable discussion. I have yet to see much reasoning here in how I:VE BEEN TREATED HERE TODAY, but I wasn’t out on national TV responding to questions as if they were stoned and heard an entirely different question than what was actually asked……..
SO, get off my back, if you can’t even address how HILLARY is in bed with multinational corporations and sat on the board of WALMART, then you really don’t know you won candidate….it’s like you’ve been brain washed and individual though is beyond your capabilities, though rash quick insults are pre-programmed into the collective being of this site…….
SO, did I answer you direct question, BOOGIE MAN, or is there something you would like to have better detail on….????
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
the question —–how is Biden a change……..
I have said nothing about new and change…..I’ve been talking about the CONSTUTITION…remember, BILL AS PRESIDENT HONORED THE CONSTITUTION BY PERJURING HIMSELF UNDER OATH………that’s not respect…….
I support the constitution……and all the women here, you better get aquinted with that document, because you din’t have voting rights until the sufferjets forced an amendent to allow females to the right to vote………
So, For me, it’s always has been and always will be the constitution…..
as for Biden, the guy earned my respect from deacdes of service to our country. You don’t realize how many advantages you and yours enjoy today, because Biden worked his butt off and made it happen……
Imagine serving as long in congress as Biden has, and commuting into washington daily by rail…combined with the tragic death odf his first wife, and being a single father for five years while still commuting to Washington by rail so the surviving kids would have the best chance to recover from losing their mother at such a young age……He’s survived two brain operations and wow…..what energy he has in his six decade old body…..He’s got the gift of charm and has always been on the side of AMERICA over the side of the DNC……..
He’s been personally tested in ways that most people have no concept of, and came out smelling like a rose…..he did it……losing a young bride has destroyed many men…..it made Biden stronger……that’s a man, living up to his responsibilities and doing whatever it took to get the job done……
Biden is going to be fantastic in an administration, hopefully in January, his git of gab is a treasure chest to re build foreign relations……..and he will be an true asset to Obama, as he leans the ropes to how an administration should be ran. I see the two of them as a great partnership, better than BIll/Gore…
so, BOOGIE MAN
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
ok kitty you like o,biden the old type of politicians. so you vote for they guy that says old type politicians. are bad bad people.then you say aslo that you voted for him beacuse who” gives me hope that his respect for the constitution ”
i guess that why even after he said the fisa bill was unconstitutional .then he whent and voted for it.
ok kitty
you just keep telling yourself that.
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
well, boogie man, you can’t answer a direct simple question,,,,,,blah blah blah back at you……hahahahahahah
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
kitty you bought obama lines lock stock & barrel . i almost feel bad for you
“keyword: almost
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
You lower yourself with that disrespect, boogieman…..it’s a relfection of you, not of me….let me ask you this….how old are you and how many presidential elections have you voted in….????? simple stuff, lemme know….
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
goodbye feminists glad to see you are going we will be so much better off now with you going. Get losts trolls the nagging is over with. Its time we make a rule no feminists in the dnc.
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Kieth nothing you say matters I dont hav to vot for McCain and Obama is still gonna lose and remeber when president Mccain enters the room you better stand and salute!
Also We have written off 2008 and have already moved on to 2012 remeber bots michelle said this is our only shot so bye bye bama amd your sour faced wife too.
I refuse to engage in debate with you bots I prefer to taunt you from the sidelines! you are all sh*tbags.
Oh and know that you have tossed out all the wonem the democratic party is less than hald the party it was!
fuzzybeargville
Obamabots just plain suck
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
ok i wont call you kitty keith
from now on its just kitty
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Boogieman, you are defending HILLARY CLINTON…….hahahahaha……….hahahahahahaha
Give me a gosh darn break…POLITICS IS A GAME>….
HILLARY VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR……..what’s your answer to that one………..???? hummmmmmmm was that the good decision?………….heck, half america knew the bush gang was playing loose with the facts, and here’s HILLARY voting not because of the issues of the legilation, but rather due to trying to vote so that she could look GOOD IN THIS ELECTION….it was the SAFE VOTE and every single senator who voted yea, should be ashamed and that includes Biden……..
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
hey fuzzy hows it going
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
sorry spell checker failed should read:
oh and now that you have tossed all the women out of the democratic party it is less than 1/2 the party it was!
fuzzybeargville
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
looks like kittys a littel sensitive.
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
lets see the war vote obama rips everone for voting for it. when he could,nt vote for it
then he whent & voted 2 times to fund it,
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
good kieth sorry your doctor canceled your viagra perscription and the enzyte isnt working for you but do you really like to date rape women?
look just remember its not the size of your hook its how you wiggle your itty bitty worm.
Kieth could your desire to hang out here at hire heels have something to do with your gender identity disorder?
I have no problem with a guy that likes to put on womens clothing and hang around in truck stops but be carfule some of them consolidated frieght guys dont like the kind of suprize you pack in your dress.
fuzzybeargville
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I have no respect for McCain……he sold his soul to the devil back when he and liberman walked down that iraq street before the “surge” with over 100 military and helicopters and flack jackets…..
Hes got no chance to win…….side by side, mcacain looks half way in the grave, whereas Obama and Biden look energized……
Someone is going to win this election, and all the others are going to lose…..the only important thing is to elect the best man for our COUNTRY……..least you forget, we are on the same team, just favor different coaches…..
HIREHEELS>……..what a lame group………..stay off tLarry king, will you please, then [eople like rey don’t have to insult those ith more intelligence than themselves……attact attack attack attack, that’s the Clintons……you have been brain wshed, attack attack, they are all your enemies….be afraid…..be scared……remember mushroom clouds are coming at us…..hide, flee and create wars of choice in order to bankrupt our government as a preventative form of welfare expansion…..spend all the money and then they can’t spend it on pet legislation……
You do realize, OSAMA BIN LAUDIN succeed in bankrupting america, and we did it to ourselves……a man in a cave, played bush and cheney like a cheap 2-bit whore………
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
kieth come on I know a good doctor in colorado read about him in the advocate who has preformed over 13,000 sex chane operations…
then you could be “real” for a change and the doc lets you keep any spare parts left over from the operation
fuzzybeargville
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
elizabeth was creepy last night, even BOOGIEMAN said so……weird facial expressions and POST RATIONAL not voting on a first date….and you guys are ganging up on me…….
wow, at least I broght CHALLENGE to this lame site…..and enjoy,,,,,,,I’m gone, but the stated truths you all want to gang up on me about, well, those will either happen or not, well just have to see……..I’ll check back here in November after a winner is selected and see what collective numb nuts are still sourpusses…….
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
kieth you were in that code pink ralley I saw in denver I am sure of it nice skirt with pink tights and a poodle on the left sid of the skirt you really needed a shave and the red wig was god awful.
come on keith you really must admit that you want to change your outie for an innie so you can finally date alec baldwin!
fuzzybeargville
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
kitty still there .
you get a thrill going up your leg like when you think of the goldenboy
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
good bye kieth and good luck on getting the new vagina!
fuzzybeargville
sorry boogie he deserved that
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
I think kieth was scared off by my challenging his womynhood!
fuzzybeargville
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
this is fun harassing kitty ,, aint it fuzzy
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
lol
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
lol
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
did they ever get the sound working at no-we-wont radio.?
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
sore losers
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I don’t scare , period………
How many times have you jumped out of an airplane, I’m a rated expert skydiver by the United States Parachute Association with over 1400 jumps and ZERO malfunctions…..
so, yeah, me is scared of whiney women…..probably all under the age of 30…..and you all sound exactly like teenagers……..
guess again…….since yo like to attack people who aren’t POST RATIONAL about Hillary……
sore losers……..remember, sportmanship is more valuable then winning the game, or at least I hope you teach your children that….
Oh, BTW…..musicians have no problems getting laid, so don’t worry about me……
You must me thinking of senator LArry Craig, or as it Hillary who had a sex change?
hahahahahahahahahah
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
blackpower did kitty come crying to you & tell how bad he was feeling & treated
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
HILLARY LOST………..that’s reality………
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
I figured it out, you are all lezbian man haters…….yep, that’s it….hahahahahahahahahaha
Blow your nosse Boggerman…….that nugget is disgusting@
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
just remember, YOUR HILLARY LOST……FIAR AND SQUARE……….
hahahahahahahahahaha
so you can only vote for a man………now….hahahahahahahaha must buch your panites up your large butts…..hahahahahahaha
Am I playing the inslut game well enough……or perhaps I should go on larry king and talk up HIREHEELS……….hahahahahah
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
boo!
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
hey kitty the ones that have to brag abought getting laid are the ones are ussaly getting any.
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
i mean are the ones that arent getting any
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
what dose jumping out of airplanes have to do with anything . dealing with politics
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
No, Fuzzy, not Colorado. The U of MN is the place to go for the sex change operations. He could stay with t-bone at his house in St. Paul; it’s just across the river. He and t-bone will get along great. Now Keith isn’t dancing around his house putting make up on in a silk robe like the serial killer in Silence of the Lambs is he, talking to himself in the mirror. Do you collect exotic moths, Keith? Or is it Kitty.
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
yea thats a real good way to try & get our votes insult us . your not makeing the goldenboys jobs any easy,er
on August 27th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
good one Flowerchild2.
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:01 am
take you vote and shove it up your arse boogerman
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
arse ? whats thats must be an obama-nut thing.
kitty had to go & call up his delusional obama-nut buddys
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Remember this folks:
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If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.
If they’re shouting after you, keep going.
Don’t ever stop. Keep going.
If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.
Even in the darkest of moments, ordinary Americans have found the faith to keep going.
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:25 am
this post is to the normal, rational people who visit this site. I just don’t have time for the fools anymore.
We knew this was probably going to be the end result.It doesn’t change anything. We all had good reasons for not supporting bo in the first place, and those reasons haven’t changed. If anything they have gotten stronger.
All that happened was that we got to see Hillary being very presidential one more time, and whether it was all politics on stage, or whether she truly wants a Dem in the white house that badly… she was a good sport. She did what she said she would do, and now it is time for us to do what we said we would do.
I still have my Hillary pin on my pack, it may stay there for four years or so, don’t know, yet. But it is a wonderful way to start conversations, and privately, with the talking points we all know so well, tanking bo moves along.
It is hard for Dems to get all this into their heads, so you have to take your time, and allay their fears. By the time you get to leaving the party now, because the party has changed too much, you’d be surprised how many are there with you.
Three today, two the day before. Every day or so a couple more, and in Nov. it will be the way we said it would. He can’t win, because that is the worst choice for this country. I will do what I can to protect my country, and if this is what it takes,okay. The Reps will have to take care of voter fraud, and all that, I don’t have the connections to watch bo and his henchmen behind the scenes.
Personally, I wish that McCain could take Carly , but I think a VP without elective history would be a problem. Hillary in 12, its only four years.
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:25 am
…only birdshit and fools fall from the sky. From the sound of it, you ain’t no fool right? You have the nerved to come here and lecture us base on your credential, what have you done with your life Keith beside strumming a guitar? Tell me what qualifies you in your great wisdom that we don’t know what we are fighting for?
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Btw Keith ask your jump buddies how I know about the birdshit and fools. Please….give me a break poser!
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:32 am
Yep she got on her knees and submitted to the great one while she was down dere i wonder if she wents for the zippa
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:36 am
dats right she bent her knee to the great one i wonder if she went for the zippa while she wuz on her knees
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:39 am
You are right PW, I just lost it today. I beleived many of us has been sleep deprive as well, we all need to get some rest.
on August 28th, 2008 at 1:31 am
the great one. what kind of F**** up person are you,blackrulz,blackpower you think that the golden boys is thje great one. you are messed up in the head
on August 28th, 2008 at 1:32 am
mans that like a cult type thing . you guys are so messed up it not funny.
on August 28th, 2008 at 1:37 am
that just abought the most insulting thing you can say .
kitty baby power & yyour buddy nut rules . are just f**** u* are call him the great one,
ill bet ud jump off a cliff to if he asked you ID****
on August 28th, 2008 at 1:40 am
Good job keith. I too am on this wack job site due to ms joyces appearence last night. I have never heard such drivel in my life. You all talk as if obama pulled some sham, as I posted before and recieved no response, let me reiterate. Ms. Clinton is the one who tried to pull a fast one. 18 months ago the dnc told mich. and florida would not be valid if chose to change there polling days. Mich/florida went ahead anyway and they were sanctioned. The dnc required all prospective candidates to sign an agreement that the respective states would not be counted. Everybody signed. Now hillary at the time was 15-20 points ahead, so she just signed. 15 months later, and new campaign staff hillary became shrillary and went groveling for the votes of the 2 respective states. She went back on her word. A signed agreement…she turned against her own party.
So everybody put away those pipe dreams of 2012…her political career is over. Here is a little tid-bit. Had Shrillary won the nomination, as we speak J-mc would be running adds pointing out the fact how can we select someone who goes back on her word, who signature/word means nothing. They were filmed, time was bought, and shrillary would be spending her crowning moment thursday evening trying to defend the fact that she can’t be trusted/her signature is means nothing. And that would be the beginning of 4 months of consstant mantra…she can’t be trusted….can’t be trusted…et al; ad naseum.
She is dead in the water on the national scene. This will never go way. I work in this field. Trust me. And no, I don’t work for any candidate. Just dem party.
Obama is the right choice, and I know for a fact that J-mc was salivating at the chance to unleash this add campaign. So maybe you way toohighheelers should count your blessings that shrillary wasn’t hoisted on her own petard..only to reveal that the “empress has no clothes…”
Anyway it is going to be a busy 4 months, with much to write.
So to all the Shrillaryites I bid adieu, and if you can’t find it in yourself to vote for Obama as your leader has requested…just write in Gloria Allred for Pres. She will fit in with all you slighted women.
2016…2nd chance for for Mr. Gore…
on August 28th, 2008 at 1:54 am
No Doug, you won’t be on this site. The editors are in transit right now and can’t block you, but they will. You will be banished back to your Hillary bashing, Obama worshipping temple. We’ve seen more than one of you go.
And Black Power, you and your filthy mouth will be the first to go because anyone who writes filth is nothing but a degenerate. You have your fun and you all party real hardy tomorrow night, because as of Friday it’s over. The Republican games begin.
on August 28th, 2008 at 2:03 am
yea flower these fools think thev got probs wait till the rep atack dogs come out.
you try & pull that race card on them . just do it .
they will have no prioblem bringing up rev wright ans all his buddys
on August 28th, 2008 at 2:06 am
i kinda know how you feel flower . they conted you as half a vote. today they did not even count texas im a 0 the the dems eyes.
on August 28th, 2008 at 2:09 am
this day will comeback to haunt the dems on nov 4th every state that was not counted before they they gave it to him.
are 0s dont think all of us wont rember that.
on August 28th, 2008 at 2:20 am
Well, they totally ignored this state, Boogie. I mean we couldn’t even have a campaign office here. The only ads we saw were on the news when the news talked about one. And Obama cheated on that too. HE showed his ads here for two weeks prior to our primary and he still lost. It was all preplanned today; stop the vote at a certain point. I never saw anything like that before. Your not a zero in our eyes, Boogie. You were the precinct captain weren’t you. At least they mentioned your state when they showed the map.
Well, I’ve been catching the reruns of all of this. The surrogates all powerful to help Obama. He needs too much help. That’s a big red flag. Another red flag… The Republicans have been way too quiet. An ad here or there, and some were actually clever and funny. But if they could destroy Kerry, who was in my opinion a great candidate, military background, long record in the Senated, wanted McCain to run with him…..can you imagine what they are going to do with Obama?
on August 28th, 2008 at 2:20 am
this should have been a landslide year for the dems todays stunt cost them the election .now it will still be a landslide but it will be red .
on August 28th, 2008 at 5:38 am
so which one of you asshole is the one sending destructive viruses to those you disagree with?……lame ass wanna be booters…..sounds like a boogie man gig to me, but, I’m sure your inner circle of regulars knows full well which one is the cunt who illegally sends viruses and is a wannabe booter…….lame assed idiots, don’t you realize how easy it s to track your IP address, service provider and ultimate recover a real NAME and a REAL street address where that person’s internet is serviced from……what lamers, don’t even know how the cyber world can nail their illegal virus send asses………it’s a real crime and no genuine political site should allow it to happen……crappy programer web designer left you open to substaintal liablity for virus aftermath…..you better cross your fingers no one’s computer gets a worm and cras out, because this site and the OIP which sent the malicious virus are financially LIABLE>…….so you can put your money where your mouth is but, trust me, you fucked around with the wrong guy…….I have the time to make your goals have a hard time…….bad press to be assumed to send viruses……
I visited one sight on an old computer I barely ever use…….though, feel free to try to crak into this computer, it’s a mac and you will fail……but, give it your best shot……hahahaha
FUCKING VIRUS ORIGINATOR WEB SITE………….
on August 28th, 2008 at 5:41 am
Flower child……the worst potty mouth I’ve seen is your friend REY…….why not threaten her with banishment., too?,,,,,
A freaking clique with the dynamics of a 3rd grade recess…….Rey is the biggest source of instuls and name calling,……so if you are going to banish anyone, Rey better be near the tops of the list to go byebye
on August 28th, 2008 at 6:43 am
Flower child…ever hear of the 1st amendment????
on August 28th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Booggieman, anybody who had the “pleasure” of visiting Texas knows it is a real 0…
on August 28th, 2008 at 7:20 am
Doug:
Ever hear of manners, class? This is a private site Doug, so you are soon to be out of here and good riddens
on August 28th, 2008 at 7:56 am
good morning everyone
on August 28th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Good morning, Boogie.
on August 28th, 2008 at 8:20 am
hopefully thats the last we will see of those obama,nits
on August 28th, 2008 at 8:20 am
yesterday wasa sad day for demcarcy
on August 28th, 2008 at 8:42 am
I came to this site not because all of you apparent 18 million strong are effective. Rather, I watched Elizabeth Joyce on Larry King last night and I had to see what this was all about. The only points I really heard from Elizabeth were superficial, whiny, opinions. She sounded like someone who didn’t get enough hugs when she was a kid. I’m a realist and by not supporting your party’s candidate you are effectively supporting the opponent. If it’s to prove a point, we all understand – you’re special. If it’s because your mad about Hillary not clinching the nomination, we all understand – eat a pint of ice cream and chill out. Stop living inside of a bubble and equating Obama supporters with Obama the person. I don’t equate Hillary supporters with Hillary herself. I don’t know what else to say. I’m came here to give my opinion. Bottom line, I think Elizabeth Joyce can’t see past her nose and truly, utterly, wrong.
on August 28th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Nope, evidently a lot of people watch Larry King Live. I never watch him.
on August 28th, 2008 at 9:42 am
#569 sounds very disturbed and is threatening cyber-space terrorism – just another another exemplary, upstanding Obama supporter.
on August 28th, 2008 at 10:08 am
i dont know what Elizabeth said but it most have realy affected your disturbed mind. your bring her name up almost every post
on August 28th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Barack Obama was seated next to a little girl on an airplane He turned to her and said, ‘Let’s talk. I’ve heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.’
The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to Obama, ‘What would you like to talk about?’
‘Oh, I don’t know,’ said Obama. ‘How about What Changes I Should Make To America ?’ and he smiles.
‘OK, ‘ she said. ‘That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff – grass . Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a ho rse produces clumps of dried grass.
Why do you suppose that is?’
Obama, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it and says, ‘Hmmm, I have no idea.’
To which the little girl replies, ‘Do you really feel qualified to change America when you don’t know shit ?
on August 28th, 2008 at 10:54 am
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/hillary_cant_fix_what_her_part.html
August 28, 2008
Hillary Can’t Fix What Her Party Broke
By Froma Harrop
Here’s some quotes:
Democrats had turned on fellow Democrats, and although the arrows flew in all directions, the nastiest of the invective fell on the ladies who loved Hillary. That these loyal Democrats had been targeted made them nuts.
How strange that anyone writing for a political site would be smeared for backing a candidate of the same party. If the Democratic leadership had any sense of self-preservation, it would have shunned creepy bloggers and those who provided their forum. Instead, it hailed them as voices of the new generation.
The Democrats clearly have a hooligan problem. It was as though their left-wingers suffered a kind of Karl Rove envy. They wanted to go on the attack, demonize a Clinton and hurl abuse at the Clinton’s friends. Only a year ago, Vanity Fair ran a cover story on how Clinton hatred had infected much of the right wing. The left seems to have grabbed the baton. And it apparently did not dawn on the Obama shock troops that they were offending the very people their man might someday need
The Rovian right never made that mistake with non-candidates. It reserved its thuggery for people who would never vote for a Republican.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:08 am
that said it just like it happend. .
nice [post FlowerChild2
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on August 28th, 2008 at 11:13 am
i was cringing when i saw that interview.
if you’ve made up you mind, just say so, period. you leave it open like you’re expecting a luvfest to errupt in your honor. but the “i don’t put out on the first date” reminds me of junior high. you gals are out of league.
by the way, hillary and her supporters were not exactly kind to obama. but that doesn’t matter in hh fantasy land i suppose.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:16 am
looks who back t-hambuger
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Kind to Obama? I had to quit reading the comments on on-line newspapers, t-bone because of the hate and attacks on Clinton and her supporters. Look at yourself, T-bone. You’ve come on here with your hate, your name calling, and you invite everything you get, which in comparison is really mild. Clinton supports have been followed, attacked, old people have been targeted. T-bone, there must be some form of goodness in you? Some form of a sense from right and wrong. These people, including myself, worked to get our candidate nominated. No one attacked you, no one followed you or hunted you down. It’s thuggery, t, accept it. We all kept warning you…the more you abuse, the more we will never vote for your candidate. Your candidate is unworthy of the office of the President; he has led you all in a new direction – a direction of violence. Sorry t-……for a grad of Mac, I am very disappointed. I am from the twins too T. U of MN, College of Education. And I am very disappointed that a college as fine as Mac has not instilled in you a sense of balance, fair play, and at the very least a love for democracy and freedom. Perhaps you should enroll in some more classes, and see what you may have missed.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am
that stunt the the dems pulled cost them any chance at a win in nov
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:24 am
FlowerChild2 your right on target today .
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:33 am
i know folks on here have selective memory. just so we are clear. if hillary would have won the nomination, i would have voted for her.
the gop politicians and polices are a disgrace to this country. a vote for mccain or a non-vote is a vote to continue the bush adminstration, which has been the the most corrupt and inept presidency in modern times.
this is what you and this site are advocating. so if im not open minded about it or i ridicule you and the gals, i’m not sorry about that one bit. any violent or threatening action is not coming from me.
hillary cost herself the election. it wasn’t stolen or manipulated away from her. she would have gotten all the credit if she won so she gets the blame when she lost. i’ve said time again, if we would have seen the hillary we saw the other night, she would have won hands down.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:35 am
thats the same old line you’v been tossing at us for ever cant you come up with something new .
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:36 am
All of their stunts have cost them our votes Boogie. Every single one. As we have seen when the Heels editors appeared on T.V., the thugs and hooligans have done nothing but appear here and attack, calling us C’s and every imaginable name that I would never put in print, let alone say. And the women who have appeared, throwing their hissy fits.
Thugs, hooligans, all of you – - in plain English, low-lifes.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:42 am
ya they just dont get it.
this has become bigger than hillary ,obama or the dnc.
it about democracy & fighting for whats right.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:42 am
flowerchild, thank you for referencing the froma harrop article. she at least recognizes the idiocy of the o strategy of alienating and denigrating half the dem party. the stupidity (and corruption) behind that strategy has had profound consequences and already provided the impetus for the puma movement. it will also result in a full scale defeat for dems in november. in the coming weeks you will see more and more down-ticket dems distancing themselves from obama in the hopes of salvaging themselves from this unity-train wreck.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:48 am
i said this before the dnc think,s they had a prob before
its nothing to what comming . when they gave him the nom, on passing up states hillary won. & ending it when they saw fit. before all the states could cast there votes.
& for all the world to see..
that was just plane shamefull
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:50 am
i agree AnnieEm.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:55 am
No t-bone. This site is advocating the presidency of Hillary Clinton. By the time this site was formed, we had seen and been a target of the thugs and hooligans; we saw the most successful president of our life time, attacked, his wife attacked, his daughter. Racial threats on the blogs, screaming whitey we are going to get you, and massah, and absolute hate of white people. All unleashed by Obama. You go back and read the comments by Wisewoman. A woman who told you she put her life on the line with Dr. King. And you give her no respect or thought to any of those actions.
I have nothing further to say to you t-bone.
on August 28th, 2008 at 11:56 am
My heart aches for all of us today.
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
FlowerChild2 see ya later got a few things to do. take it easy
on August 28th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
thanks, boogieman.
flowerchild. we may feel downhearted but we stood up and made our voices heard. “we were the ones no one was expecting” and believe me we’ve rattled some powerful cages.
on August 28th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
flower, in case you have not been watching tv, delegates have given nothing but respect and ovations to the clintons.
tell me billy didn’t cost al gore the election. i bet you wont cuz you know i’m right.
you folks are betraying the democratic party and so they are gonna let you know about. you shouldn’t be surprised. but its just talk. you can’t hold the entire non-clinton wing of the democratic party responsible for the actions of a few.
on August 28th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I think it would be wise to ignore the trolls here. The constitution gives us free speech and this site is truly for PUMAS and others who realize a massive con job when they see one.
This website amongst others is very effective because it has attracted many obots. Keep up the great work. MOre and more people everyday are becoming open to our cause. We must press on. The obots don’t deserve out time because trying to convince them is like trying to get a crackhead to put down crack….only God can convince a crackhead to give up drugs. -
on August 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Flower child, When Ms. joyce announced your website on nat’l tv,i believe the privacy issue became a moot point…n’est-ce pas?
on August 28th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
In all fairness, I actually think T-bone is rather mild in comparison to the majority. What’s not in reason, is the onsluaght of abuse that we have endured since this site has been published. The behavior of the Obama supporter is not unacceptable in our society’s standard, yet it’s exercise here in the Blogosphere, uncheck. This is not something that you would encourage others to do unto you or your family, yet you guys are enjoying every minute of it. Doesn’t it paint a picture of your character and what you are supporting? You guys can think of our reason as nave but, that’s your opinion and your constitutional right and we honor that as painful as it may be. However, some folks here may still be undecided of how they will cast their vote but, comes November, we will show you how weak we are.
on August 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
doug – almost everyday we hear obama on the tv, we don’t go running to his blog and tell him to inflate his tires. Give the woman a break……..
on August 29th, 2008 at 2:07 am
O:k rey, fair enough…the tire pressure was an example of the sum of all parts…every little bit helps. Alot like Sen clintons, “it takes a village”…now i am no being snarky here. what she wrote was brilliant, and inspirational. what with time constraints, single parenthood etc…we all must chip in , every little bit helps. so rey, make sure your tires are properly inflated and will not pass this site on. i must say i was rather embarassed by some of obamas “supporters” rather crass responses. here is some irony…my father said there are 2 words that you should never use, no matter the heat of the moment, the c word and the n word …think about it. …so I leave you with a response that i wrote that is bouncing around the net in regards to the “experience” issue…which i think either nominee would have been pinned with from j-mc’s camp. hopefully you will understand the passion/reasoning involved in ridding ourselves of the g.o.p……………………………………………….. Here is some fun reading for you guys and gals. This is my response to something that a “gentleman” has been circulating on various sites in regards to O’Bama’s experience. This is his thesis statement and I quote …” Mr. Democrat, if Mr. Microsoft was to retire today with his Billions, would he go to the mailroom and hire somebody w/only 4 yrs. experience to run his empire”…Well the mailroom slight was enough…but the meandering diatribe that followed , ending with…”Mr. Democrat, please give me a break!!!…” enough!!
Enjoy…
Mr. Republican, you do get a break. You have ample time to come to your senses, Nov. 4th is a aways away. Now if Mr. Microsoft was to retire today, and enjoy his Billions he would have to thank Mr. McCaine, let us not forget a caveat to good O’l ‘bring down the middle class’ Ronald Regan who started this American miasma that we are now in by supplanting the stars on our flag with dollar signs, for creating that American ideal that greed=patriotism. That you too can achieve the American dream and make all the money you can, no matter who else pays for it. Machiavellian Economics. Unfettered Capitalism. For the last 28 years American’s have watched their lives change for the worst, do largely, to the Rebummblecans. Oh some have achieved great wealth…but I am afraid it has been a Pyrrhic Victory–I won the war but lost my Army…I achieved great wealth at the cost of my employees jobs, benefits, pensions… et al; ad nauseum.
Somehow that ‘Grand Old Party’ (GOP) managed to ignore, circumnavigate, manipulate and steamroll the Clayton-Sherman Anti/Trust Act, an act of congress in 1914. By allowing the business community to come together and use the tools of economics, Wall St: brokerage houses, LLC’s, arbitragers, leverage buyouts, corporate raids/mergers, commodities traders etc…etc…to come together and form a small club that amassed great wealth at the exspense, of the majority of, ‘My Fellow Americans’. The GOP bleats on about pork belly spending. Yet they are in the middle of the biggest pork belly project seen in years (if not ever) the War(?) in Iraq. After destroying the Iraqi infrastructure, office buildings, electric/water supply, roads…you know the Country. The GOP, in keeping with tradition, awarded the civillian re-building projects to their club members. We pay (the Military)to tear it down and pay our gang to rebuild it. Hell they didn’t even ask for bids because they had ‘Homeland Security’ behind them. That goose stepping organization that Mr. Executive Priveledge created to bypass that silly thing called the Constitution.
If this isn’t enough for you. Look East to the wall we tore down. The wall we tore down without bothering to worry about what was on the otherside…we(GOP) were very busy, we had lots of business opprotunities to exploit in this new ‘American Dream’ we created. This dream is slowly turning into a nightmare. The people of Eastern Europe/Asia who got the American way whether they asked for it or not, for the most part have suffered greatly.
And this suffering and disillusionment is rearing it’s ugly head. For the peoples of the Eastern Hemisphere are also seeking Change. Re-entering the Countries that they once occupied. Restoring their national pride. Now is this a change I agree with, no. But we have committed the majority of our Military strength in a Country that neither invaded us or threatened us…damn no WMD’s…now what? Re in-state the Draft?, leave/’loose’ Iraq…Well why Mr. Executive Privledge was using the buzz-word of his administration, TERRORISM!!! (remember 911 was on his watch) he either overcommitted, or ignored his intelligence community. Not wanting to hear the truth about what was going on in the East or pre-occupied with his lame duck pandering tour. Can’t wait for those pardons.
So, Mr Republican, if this is the experience you seek. I can only hope that you are stuck in an airport, in line at the only Airline left, in your stocking feet, holding your shoes, on Nov. 4th.
Regards…
d
on August 29th, 2008 at 3:14 am
ok rey, fair enough. i love the spin on the tire issue. unfortunately the point was missed that it is part of the sum of all parts.every little bit helps. alot like sen clintons, and i am not being snarky here, “it takes a village “, that brillant book on the current state of child rearing; overworked parents, single paarents….etc. must say, bit embarassed by the language of fellow obamites. so i will keep this site to myself. here is some irony…my father told me that there are 2 words you never! use, no matter the situation, the c word and the n word…think about it….so rey, keep your tires inflated and i will spread my prattle elseware…(can you believe i get paid for this). on the subject of prattle here is a piece i wrote in response to a piece bouncing around the net by the g.o.p. in regards to
‘experience”…a moniker old j-mc would have hung on either candiadate. maybe this will shed some light on the passion involved in ridding us of rep. party, cheers….ps- hell of a speech tonite, must admit. only wish i had a fingerprint on that, anyway…keep smiling……………………………………………………………
Here is some fun reading for you guys and gals. This is my response to something that has been circulated on various sites in regards to O’Bama’s experience. This is his thesis statement and I quote …” Mr. Democrat, if Mr. Microsoft was to retire today with his Billions, would he go to the mailroom and hire somebody w/only 2 yrs. experience to run his empire”…Well the mailroom slight was enough…but the meandering diatribe that followed , ending with…”Mr. Democrat, please give me a break!!!…” enough!!
Enjoy…
Mr. Republican, you do get a break. You have ample time to come to your senses, Nov. 4th is a aways away. Now if Mr. Microsoft was to retire today, and enjoy his Billions he would have to thank Mr. McCaine, let us not forget a caveat to good O’l ‘bring down the middle class’ Ronald Regan who started this American miasma that we are now in by supplanting the stars on our flag with dollar signs, for creating that American ideal that greed=patriotism. That you too can achieve the American dream and make all the money you can, no matter who else pays for it. Machiavellian Economics. Unfettered Capitalism. For the last 28 years American’s have watched their lives change for the worst, do largely, to the Rebummblecans. Oh some have achieved great wealth…but I am afraid it has been a Pyrrhic Victory–I won the war but lost my Army…I achieved great wealth at the cost of my employees jobs, benefits, pensions… et al; ad nauseum.
Somehow that ‘Grand Old Party’ (GOP) managed to ignore, circumnavigate, manipulate and steamroll the Clayton-Sherman Anti/Trust Act, an act of congress in 1914. By allowing the business community to come together and use the tools of economics, Wall St: brokerage houses, LLC’s, arbitragers, leverage buyouts, corporate raids/mergers, commodities traders etc…etc…to come together and form a small club that amassed great wealth at the exspense, of the majority of, ‘My Fellow Americans’. The GOP bleats on about pork belly spending. Yet they are in the middle of the biggest pork belly project seen in years (if not ever) the War(?) in Iraq. After destroying the Iraqi infrastructure, office buildings, electric/water supply, roads…you know the Country. The GOP, in keeping with tradition, awarded the civillian re-building projects to their club members. We pay (the Military)to tear it down and pay our gang to rebuild it. Hell they didn’t even ask for bids because they had ‘Homeland Security’ behind them. That goose stepping organization that Mr. Executive Priveledge created to bypass that silly thing called the Constitution.
If this isn’t enough for you. Look East to the wall we tore down. The wall we tore down without bothering to worry about what was on the otherside…we(GOP) were very busy, we had lots of business opprotunities to exploit in this new ‘American Dream’ we created. This dream is slowly turning into a nightmare. The people of Eastern Europe/Asia who got the American way whether they asked for it or not, for the most part have suffered greatly.
And this suffering and disillusionment is rearing it’s ugly head. For the peoples of the Eastern Hemisphere are also seeking Change. Re-entering the Countries that they once occupied. Restoring their national pride. Now is this a change I agree with, no. But we have committed the majority of our Military strength in a Country that neither invaded us or threatened us…damn no WMD’s…now what? Re in-state the Draft?, leave/’loose’ Iraq…Well why Mr. Executive Privledge was using the buzz-word of his administration, TERRORISM!!! (remember 911 was on his watch) he either overcommitted, or ignored his intelligence community. Not wanting to hear the truth about what was going on in the East or pre-occupied with his lame duck pandering tour. Can’t wait for those pardons.
So, Mr Republican, if this is the experience you seek. I can only hope that you are stuck in an airport, in line at the only Airline left, in your stocking feet, holding your shoes, on Nov. 4th.
Regards…
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on March 30th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Clinton slips effortlessly among his various worlds. After a talk at a United Nations forum about Asian tsunami relief, I found him backstage accompanied by the film director Martin Scorsese