it’s good to be green, if your name is cynthia mckinney
For some of you considering a protest vote against Obama, John McCain might seem to be the most obvious choice. Some of you might think staying home is the only option… Here is good news for you, especially if you’re a progressive or a feminista. Her name is Cynthia McKinney, from the Green Party. If you have never heard of her, it’s not your fault. The mainstream media is suppressing what she has to say, or even that she is running at all.
McKinney, a former Democratic Congresswoman from Georgia, is the only candidate in the race that proposes to provide healthcare for all. She is a fighter for American workers; she authored a living age bill for the workers. Just as Hillary has been a tireless advocate for global human rights, as she eloquently expressed in her 1995 “Women’s Rights are Human Rights” speech, McKinney is also dedicated to international human rights issues. As the highest-ranking Democrat in the House Human Rights 
Subcommittee, she dedicated herself to end human rights abuses in many countries, most notably in the Congo and Rwanda. While Hillary has been a staunch advocate for veterans on the Armed Service Committee, McKinney was instrumental in enacting many policies for veterans, including health benefits for Vietnam War veterans and increased support for homeless veterans. Despite being a longtime Democrat, she left the Democratic Party last year, due to the Party establishments’ maltreatment of her. She served for 12 years in the Congress as well as 4 years in the Georgia state legislature, giving her a wealth of experience— the kind that actually facilitates real change.
Cynthia McKinney was officially nominated as Presidential candidate at the Green Party Convention this past weekend. She chose Rosa Clemente, journalist and youth activist from New York, as her vice-presidential nominee. Her pick of VP marks the first time in American history that two women will run together on the same presidential ticket.
Why do we have to be forced to choose between two men every four years to lead our nation? If you are sick and tired of this, like me, it’s time to consider an alternative. Hillary ran a genuinely historical campaign that made 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling, only to be defeated by a systematic force that harasses and hampers any woman who wants to lead our nation. Hillary conceded, but it’s not the end of our struggle; it’s time to beat the ultimate patriarchal structure at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The best way to do it is to VOTE FOR THE WOMAN candidate running, come November 4th. Ideally, not just any woman, but a woman who is committed to the same ideals Hillary has been dedicated to and fighting for, for decades.
You might say that a McKinney vote will be a wasted one. But a vote for McKinney is an infinitely better option for a protest vote than anything other choice (such as John McCain— who Hillary believes needs to be defeated). Perhaps, if it becomes clear that a considerable number of Hillary Democrats’ votes went to McKinney, the Democratic Party might be forced to acknowledge their mistakes. A vote for Senator Obama shows that we either approve of or turned a blind eye to the sexist treatment Senator Clinton endured during this primary. A vote for McCain is another one that will continue to uphold the status quo that has traditionally kicked women out of the power structure.
I say, “Just Say No Deal to the boy’s club and check out what Cynthia McKinney has to say.” Visit: gp.org … I think you might find that voting for her is far better than voting for McCain or staying at home— which essentially amounts to an abandonment of our democratic ideals. So, spread the word, she deserves a chance to be considered. Such action, regardless of whether you vote for her in November or not, serves as an act of rebellion against the old boys’ establishment and the mainstream media that has consistently undermined intelligent and ambitious women.
on July 16th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Count me in. I gave up on the establishment parties as soon as the public school system taught me critical thinking. I now prefer to vote my hopes and my dreams, knowing that sooner or later they will be mainstream.
Power to the People!
on July 16th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Thanks, Latte. It’s so easy to get discouraged given everything that’s gone on. We need reminders that there are options, that there are fighters out there!
on July 16th, 2008 at 9:25 am
While I agree that the two party system sucks, how long have third party candidates, and supporters, been saying “this is the year we make them pay attention”?
And how much attention have the two parties paid?
You want a third party to kick some ass, and take names?
Get them into either the House or Senate, in enough numbers that _their_ vote must be woo’ed.
Get them in, in enough numbers, so that they are the swing.
without them, nothing gets done.
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Cynthia McKinney is a radical, conspiracy buff and, I might add, very anti-American.
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Hana - you add no value to hireheels.
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:52 am
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. However, Cynthia McKinney is nothing more than a shrill voice in the dark always chanting, ‘racism, racism, racism.’ She has basically accused the Bush Administration of masterminding 9/11 because poor Cynthia can’t seem to believe radical Islamists want to kill us.
Third parties are a complete waste of time and effort ; however, please do feel free to support McKinney. It will be money well wasted. What percentage of the vote will she get? Guess? My guess is it won’t even register and will be lumped together with all the other non-serious parties.
We have serious problems and this website promotes Cynthia McKinney. What a joke!
on July 16th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Hana, Do you have your own blog? You should start one. You seem to have a lot to say and there are probably a lot of people out there who would appreciate your forum.
I know that the truth is important to me and I’d like to discover the truth of any important issue. Sometimes your message gets lost, though, when you start in on inflamatory attacks and supercilious comments. Can you point to any substantive writing about McKinney that supports what you are saying? I really don’t know anything about her and I have to agree that a vote for a third party candidate is usually a throw away vote, but I think it’s important to not so viciously denigrate someone unless they are truly an evil person. Not many people are actually evil–
on July 16th, 2008 at 11:36 am
regarding the 9/11 issues, check out her wikipedia article, and _especially_ look at any and all of the references (which is where the real meat of any wikipedia article lies).
on July 16th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Um, there may be a lot of reasons to like Cynthia McKinney, but after just a little digging, I wouldn’t vote for her even in protest. With McCain, even though I’ve never considered myself a republican, at least I feel he is an honorable person. Completely honest? No, not really. But I think we can all agree that all politicians fudge in that regard. But I do think he is generally honorable. I do not think obama is an honorable person. Having decided that for myself, I then have to look at the candidate’s overall experience. In this regard, I could never vote for McKinney. That aside, I have to look at how well the person can represent our country. In this case I would have to work hard against McKinney.
This is why in the final analysis Clinton should be our nominee. Despite what some believe to be her socialist agenda (I strongly disagree), Clinton is the best of the field for experience, leadership, conventional wisdom and someone I would be proud to support.
on July 16th, 2008 at 11:42 am
I would agree with voting for Cynthia McKinney for the sole purpose of sending a definitive message to the sexist DNC. I would just add a small wrinkle though:
If you live in a swing state, then I think voting for McCain is the best choice. If the poll indicates a blowout (like Alabama or Ilinois), then definitely vote for McKinney–this will not be a wasted vote now as it registers as a protest vote!
on July 16th, 2008 at 11:46 am
I’ll have to check to see if she is even on our ballot. In our state a write-in is as good as not voting. But, drbala, you make a good point.
thanks
on July 16th, 2008 at 11:47 am
If your goal is to defeat Barak Obama the only option is to vote for John McCain. By voting for a third party candidate you are taking away fewer votes from Obama than if you vote for McCain. We have to be realistic a third party candidate has never won an election and this time it’s not any different.
on July 16th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
hireheels’ goal is give a voice to those who choose to constructively pose a viewpoint. we have not endorsed any candidate— unless of course senator clinton ends up at the top of the democratic ticket. carry on.
on July 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
we realy have to teach the DNC lesson that they can’t pull they cant be rewarded for there / we cant let them get away with the way they trated MI & FL and the rest the shady ***t the pulled this elect. i dont live in a swing state but if i did i never thought i say this but i vote McCain as a protest vote.
go hillary
on July 16th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
when they gave votes to the chosen one. and took them away from hillary. if we let them get away with it. who knows what they will do. next time. .
go hillary
on July 16th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
For those serious about making a third party viable on the national stage, building third-party strength in state legislatures and Congress would be the way to go, in my not-so-humble opinion. I’m glad there are other candidates out there, whether I agree with them or not, because I think it’s healthy for us. However, strategically, a lone leader without legislative support is way too easy to marginalize. If you had a third party that had enough votes to create an instant majority with whichever party it joined on vote a or issue b, you’d have a group with real power to dictate what got passed.
This presumes, of course, that they actually had spines and instruction manuals for them. Congressional dems failed to act like a real opposition party when they were the minority and they’re failing to throw their weight around now that they’re the majority. (I wonder how many of them are quietly having buyer’s remorse over their Obama endorsements?…Anybody hearing any political gossip from within their districts?)
on July 16th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
I recall a couple of years ago, Cong. Cynthia McKinney assaulted a security guard at the Capitol. She didn’t have her ID badge on and he didn’t recognize her. She, of course, cried racism. She was chastised by the leadership which may be why she left the party.
I realize some of her progressive views may be compelling, but personally, I think she may be a whacko.
on July 16th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
“Congressional dems failed to act like a real opposition party when they were the minority”
Sing it! Had Pelosi had a spine and acted like gingrich, we might not have some of the more brutal assualts on our constitution that we did.
but we all know now that pelosi is bough and paid for by special interests, like the telecoms.
on July 16th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Pelosi is from Baltimore right? You guys do know who is Pelosi right?
on July 16th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
I think you should listen to ‘hana’ and do your homework. There ARE two sides to Cynthia McKinney. The only reason Obama has followers is because they are given only one side and fall in line.
on July 16th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
As Hillary supporters I believe we have 2 goals that we should try to achieve
1. Make sure her name gets put into nomination at the convention and letting the powers that be Hillary is the candidate who is able to win in November.
2.
by everything I have read on http://www.voteboth.com Hillary would take the VP position if offered and if she wants it she certainly deserves it and we should do all we can to have it become a reaity. We should remember all she did for us doing the primary never giving up and fighting until the very end. If she believes being Vice-President will help her continue her fight and strengthen the causes she wants to accomplish we should do what we can.
on July 16th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Cynthia McKinney is, to put it politely, a crackpot. During her time in Congress, she introduced a bill demanding the government release all ’secret’ files related to rapper Tupac Shakar claiming he was being investigated by the government at the time of his death.
She claimed, essentially, that 9/11 was masterminded by the Bush Administration
She assaulted a member of the security force at the Capitol
She continually screams ‘racism, racism, racism.
She’s a nut! Of course, I strongly urge anyone interested to vote for her. Who knows? In the end, she could help the cause, just not the Hillary cause.
Someone asked if I have a blog. No.
woodhull - why do you not believe Hillary’s agenda is socialistic when one of her goals is taking money away from those who earn it and giving to those who didn’t. Isn’t it true she supports government-funded day care? Isn’t it true she believes the government should interfere in the free market in terms of CEO compensation? Isn’t it true she supports creating a larger federal government for her dream village?
In my opinion, it’s socialistic. I don’t understand how anyone who values fiscal responsibility could possibly support Hillary Clinton.
As for my comments, I believe Hillary Clinton and many of her supporters are diehard leftists who value big government to force Americans to do things they would never voluntarily decide to do. I don’t believe, as Hillary apparently does, that the government solves anything. If that were true, no poverty would exist considering the billions and billions of dollars spent over the past 40-45 years for federal anti-poverty programs.
Her tax policies alone should be enough to scare away any person valuing fiscal responsibility.
Hillary, and Obama, claim to care about minorities but isn’t it true that Hillary, like Obama, opposes school vouchers primarily because both receive finanacial support from the teachers’ union?
Perhaps (although I doubt it) in a one-on-one conservation, Hillary Clinton is a nice person. However, my complaint is about her socialistic policies, her unending calls for bigger, more expensive government and, on a personal level, the manner in which her supporters mistreat women, like me, who don’t blindly follow Hillary Clinton down the road to complete financial ruin.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from this blog, it’s that Hillary’s supporters aren’t all that pro-choice especially when someone doesn’t choose Hillary to be a presidential candidate.
As I stated early on, I’m a registered Democrat, a moderate Democrat who believes we have serious problems facing us but I don’t believe Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama or John McCain is the answer. With two of the candidates (Clinton and McCain), it’s the politics of the past, namely Hillary would be Bill’s 3rd term and McCain will be Bush’s. If it’s at all possible, Obama’s economic proposals are as unnerving as Hillary Clinton’s.
Personally, I think the two parties can do better than they’ve offered but, unfortunately, hardcore ideologues control both parties so there’s not much chance any candidate who doesn’t toe the line will be nominated. Two examples:
1) I doubt any Democrat who doesn’t support, 100%, ending the lives of unborn children could gain the nomination even if he/she had sound fiscal policies, a rational foreign policy and the ability to inspire people with a vision for a better America.
2) I seriously doubt any Republican who doesn’t support, 100%, banning abortion in virtually ALL circumstances could gain the nomination even if he/she had sound fiscal policies, a rational foreign policy and the ability to inspire people with a vision for a better America.
I gave it some thought and the part that bothers me most about women who blindly follow Hillary Clinton is that they are, in many respects, truly limiting their options with a candidate who is, in the end, untruthful and will be just as bad for this country as has been President Bush. She’s too polarizing.
Think about it this way. At this moment, the Republican Party base is in disarray with many conservative Christians not that happy with McCain. However, if you truly want to embolden the evangelical voters and the hardcore right, by all means nominate Hillary because I have no doubt the conservatives will come together in a hurry to help defeat any ticket that includes Hillary Clinton.
All I can, and pray, for is that regardless of who wins the presidency that Americans across the country will elect a new Congress that will be driven by people who truly understand the constitution meaning the founding fathers created a document that gave very limited powers to the federal government, truly believe in the American dream, truly believe that Americans who work, save and create wealth should not be punished with a tax code that is oppressive, truly believe that we should welcome new immigrants but we cannot afford nor permit those who violate our laws and enter this country illegally to be rewarded with citizenship, and truly believe that this nation, despite it’s problems, is still great.
I can personally attest to the greatness of this country because I have living proof. My husband’s family left Barbados in the mid-1960s and immigrated to the U.S. Their story is truly one of realizing the American dream. My husband, and his siblings, attended college and graduated. He works in an auto manufacturer’s research center.
It’s interesting minority immigrants come to the U.S. and succeed while individuals like Cynthia McKinney and Jesse Jackson continually scream ‘racism, racism, racism.’ Unfortunately millions of blacks have bought into this perpetual victimhood status and, whenever they fail, their screams of racism can be heard all over the country and leftist politicians make the situation worse.
Minorities can, and have, succeeded in America. However, I believe many leftist blacks simply want someone to blame rather than contributing to this society in a meaningful way.
on July 16th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Nancy Pelosi represents San Francisco and would, if she could, impose People’s Republic of California policies on all of the U.S.
on July 16th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
looks like sista is gona be on blog talk radio tonight .
i might just have to check that out?
go hillary
on July 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Hana,
I was actually refering to the family background relating to Chicago politics. Anyhoot……..
A friend sent this to me, thought I should share it.
I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.
How Long Do We Have?
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
‘A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.’
‘A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.’
‘From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.’
‘The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years’
‘During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6. from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. from dependence back into bondage’
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Democrats: 19
Republicans: 29
Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: ‘In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…’ Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the ‘complacency and apathy’ phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the ‘governmental dependency’ phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
on July 16th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I think this echo what JFK was saying …… “ask not what your country can do for you but, what you can do for your country…”
We have major problem in this country and we need to take what’s necessary to fixed it.
As Merry said to Peppin…..”there will be no more shire l…Merry..”
on July 16th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Sorry..what your country can do for you….aight..I’m screwing it up!
on July 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I am very pleased to see Cynthia McKinney get some positive attention at this site. With regard to the security guard incident, she was singled out and grabbed from behind. I suspect that much of her response was reflex. She also apologized for escalating the situation. Of course, you won’t read that take on it in a mainstream newspaper. I find it stunning that people fully accept that journalists, reporters, commentators, and editors completely fabricate falsehoods and deliberately misconstrue facts about Hillary or Bill Clinton, but refuse to believe if could happen to anyone else. It happens a lot–especially about anyone who dares to challenge the corporate or right-wing agendas in this country.
Before automatically dismissing Ms. McKinney, try listening to her actual speeches or reading transcripts. She is definitely left-of-center, so those who do not lean that way will probably not be comfortable with her. Fine.
At the very least, appreciate the real possibility that the AA and urban youth votes might not be 99% for Obama, should he be the Democratic nominee. Ms. McKinney and Ms. Clemente have ACTUAL HISTORIES of trying to better the lives of others–or help them better their own lives. Anyone po’d at the “impeachment is off the table” attitude of the Congressional non-leaders? I believe the final piece of legislation McKinney introduced as a Rep was articles of impeachment against Bush or Cheney or both. This was a couple of years ago, not last month like Kucinich. (I admit I didn’t look up dates and could be off a bit here.)
Some folks don’t like to be called names, but they have no problem calling others names. Sigh.
on July 16th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Thanks all the supporters for McKinney.
There seem to be some who are explicitly Republicans here. hana, do you even support Hillary?
Well, McKinney is always portrayed as crazy, because she is a woman with strength and will to stand up for what she believes in, and challenge the status quo. Therefore, they try all sorts of nasty tactics to silence her. Like labeling her as “anti-American”, or “wacky”. These are different from “cold” or “calculating”, but the essence of the messages is the same thing. Women should just stay home and bake cookies. Sounds a bit familiar?
So, don’t just swallow what’s commonly believed about McKinney; because a little digging will only give you what the mainstream media (mostly anti-women) thinks about her. It’s very difficult, if not impossible, to discern the personality of a candidate through the insanely skewed filter of the mass media. Hear her speeches and read her statements, and then you can decide for yourself.
The political environment in the US is very hard for third parties, as some of you pointed out; however, I believe, that many protest votes to McKinney, even if they don’t elect her, pose a real threat to the Obama-McCain male domination status quo.
For the police incident, ea is exactly right; she was inappropriately touched by a police officer, and later she apologized for her part in the incident. Of course, the boy’s club media doesn’t tell us that the police officer touched her.
All those considering voting for McCain- if your sole purpose is literally Anybody But Obama, then it is logical to vote for him. But obviously, sexism against Hillary and all women won’t magically go away if Obama isn’t elected. It’s understandable that people think of McCain as an honorable person, because the media is in love with the quaintessential macho guy; but we all ought to know what McCain said, and need to make the choice responsibly. This comment only seems to be the evidence that deep-down, McCain hates women. (of course, the patriarchal big media doesn’t report it.)
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno.” - John McCain
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html
P.S. I think Hillary’s agenda is strongly socialistic, and that’s the main reason I support her. Who says socialism is bad? Vast right-wing conspiracy?
on July 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I’m happy for Cynthia McKinney—congrats to her for receiving the Green Party nomination. I’m considering voting for her as an alternative to McCain. She is a very strong woman, thus so much negative MSM reporting on her. She served in Congress for 3 or 4 terms, knows Washington, came out strongly advocating a redo on 9/11 investigation. I was talking to a friend of mine who lives in Atlanta, GA about her, as I thought she might have more input about her. My friend said says that there is some controversy about her accepting lots of support from the Nation of Islam and her many ties to them.
I’m going to keep watching how her campaign unfolds and will still keep considering her for my vote. But am also considering voting for McCain (first time ever for me voting for a Rethug.) just as a protest.
on July 16th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Manola minx…God do I agree with what you said about so much information out there and sometimes it just seems so overwhelmingly overpowering, and difficult to see the options.. it happens to me often, especially when I listen to the news and read some of these blogs. It’s so hard to stay focused.
on July 16th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Back to the business at hand — how many of you have asked your US Senator or Rep. to switch their superdelegate support to Hillary (if they’ve indicated Obama)? I just did that. Amy Klobuchar, my senator (Dem - MN) voted against the FISA amendments - just like Hillary, while Obama voted for them. I got an activism e-lert to thank her, so added my own comment in the “Addtl. Comments” space to say this was another reason she should support Hillary, not Obama (and also told her I’d never vote for Obama).
We need to start (or keep) contacting delegates to tell them to vote for Hillary in Denver. Phone, e-mail, whatever - please do it now! Go PUMA!
on July 16th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Emj: Yes, I am working on those superdelegate letters, a few a night. Sent out 35 last night. I was on a roll. I get on congress.org, use a generic letter so if that list has not been updated it pertains to everyone, pledged or not. Am hitting the list of unpledged mostly. I e-mailed Dodd last night. He’s still listed as unpledged (the bully) I kind of doubt that. The only thing I am finding is that most of the reps won’t allow a contact unless you are in their district. MN is my home state, but live in FL now. Love those twin cities.
Peace,
Flower
on July 16th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
E-mail addresses for the chairs of the Rules Committee of the Democratic National Convention.
Taylor Marsh: taylor@taylormarsh.com
David Walters
President, Walters Power International
Email: david@walterspower.com
Phone: (405) 528-2860
Fax: (405) 528-2466
Sunita Leeds
3205 R ST NW,
Washington DC
Email: leedss@dnc.org
Phone: (202) 863-8000
Mary Rose Oakar
President, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Email: president@adc.org
Phone: (202) 244-2990
Fax: (202) 244-7968
on July 16th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
flower and emj you are correct keep up the contact with the super d’s. i am getting phone calls that say we are making a difference. it is imperative that we ensure that senator clinton’s name is placed in nomination in Denver.
Keep up the good work heels! It’s up to us to stand up and fight for democracy.
— scl
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
nice interview sista
on blog talk radio
go pumas
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
thanks boogie. i’m a little rusty after being laid up for over a month with this silly broken leg, but princess will be doing the biggie tomorrow. See her on Fox and friends around 8:30.
scl
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
hope you feel better soon
sista
go hillary
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
ill be looking for her sista
go hillary
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
fuzzy you had a good call to.
on July 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
We are fighting, sista…peacefully though.. Just sent out another 4 tonight.
Good night all & Sweet dreams!!
on July 17th, 2008 at 4:08 am
I have a problem with McKinney being presented as a feminist when she’s running with a rap music apologist like Rosa Clemente. Rap is the most vile form of anti-feminine discourse, with the possible exception of snuff films.
on July 17th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Glad to see this site moving in(at last like etta james) a positive direction. I don’t know Mckinney but I will look her up.
Don’t back off because there were some nay sayers. If we all did that we’d be british, and lighting our houses with candles.
This belief that a two party system can work is killing us.. especially when the biggest real difference between the two partys at the highest level is where they parties at the highest level- Martha’s Vineyard or Nantucket.
John McCain has been bought and paid for… Obama’s votes mark him as part of game we don’t see. They all vote to continue funding the theft of american dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In terms of real cost 50% of the budget goes to pay for unnecessary wars.
Points on what has been said:
1. 9/11- there should be a real investigation by non- Washington insiders. The 9/11 commission was headed by a guy who co-wrote a book with Condeleeza rice who admitted to talking to the White house, during the investigation
Why does that matter… the first thing the commission should have been doing is assigning fault. There was a cover-up, just like there was for JFK (magic bullet, my ass.)
2. Racism… it still very much exists in America, amongst blacks as well as white. Even assuming that the worst of it is completely gone(I dunno, somebody called me a nigger at a job last year in philly) it still takes a quieter, less threatening but more disheartening form. Not understanding people’s modes of expression. Not talking baseball with the boss because you’ve never watched it. It’s having a different concept of time than other people do. It’s profiling, stopping and searching the cars of blacks. It’s 15 white cops committing brutal assault and battery on camera in Philadelphia and only 3 getting fired.
3. The territory won by republicans in 2000 did !not! consist more of taxpayers… in fact, most of the red states recieve more in federal subsidies than they pay in taxes…welfare states living off of the republic.
on July 17th, 2008 at 9:00 am
“For the police incident, ea is exactly right; she was inappropriately touched by a police officer,”
Wrong! She was not readily recognized by the police officer, and was not wearing her congressional identification pin, which would have aided the cop in identifying her.
The cop hardly “innappropriately” touched her, her called out to her, was ignored, and then grabbed her arm, all approriate levels of escalation for someone who, on first look by the cop, ran a security checkpoint.
McKinney then punched the officer - that’s right, she struck a police officer in the course of his duty.
Were I to do that, I’d be in custody immediately, but, then again, I can’t claim that I’m being profiled …
“and later she apologized for her part in the incident.”
No, she didn’t.
Read the congressional record, all she said was
“There should not have been any physical contact in this incident.”
No apology, merely her statement that she didn’t think there should have been any physical contact - which could easily have been intended to mean “the dumb pig shouldn’t have touched me!”
And the cop stopping her, and using physical means to do so, was covered by the media.
Nice attempt at smearing the reputation of one of those members of the thin blue line who protect some of the most worthless blood suckers of america (congresscritters)
on July 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Cynthia Mckinney for President, are you kidding me. She is the most arrogant person ever to hold public office. She is what I call a S#$% stirrer. She can dig up more excuses that anyone I have ever heard in my life. Nothing that has ever happened to her was her fault. Being a Georgian myself, I have heard her rant and raves about how she has always been mistreated by the establishment. Well when your as far left as Cynthia is, expect this. Talk about main stream, she is just a trickle. Waste your vote of you like, I think I’d vote for the devil himself first, at least you know what your getting
on July 17th, 2008 at 10:31 am
justzisguy - thanks for the post regarding the “real” Cynthia McKinney
on July 17th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Princess is named on the PUMA website for death threats against women who oppose O. Another name to be added is Geraldine Ferraro. Serious stuff!!
on July 17th, 2008 at 10:44 am
“Another name to be added is Geraldine Ferraro. Serious stuff!!”
Any credible source that this is true other than conspiracy buffs among Hillary’s supporters?
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Hana: I vowed not to read your comments anymore. I am in no mood for you, and I am no longer answering anything you comment about, and hopefully no one else will either. Why don’t you take your hateful, nasty, negative comments and personality and go elsewhere? You are truly a downer individual. You know, if you hate us so much hate, hate everyone, and everything - - including our country, our candidates, and everything we are working for and disagree with everything we discuss here, what are you doing here? All you do is whine, complain, and spread your hate and anger at everyone and everything. If you think so low of us, why don’t you find another group of people to associate with, or do you always associate with people you dislike. Everyone on this blog, including me, have been gracious, patient, and friendly to you, yet you come on here and throw your dirt and wasteful comments on everyone about anything. Don’t you have a positive aspect of your personality? I have better things to do, like we all do, than babysit you. Get lost and GET A LIFE!!
Heels guys and gals….Enough of Hana. Ignore her or him and she will go away!!
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Thanks for exhibiting the intolerance that so many Americans - including millions of women - find so objectionable about Hillary Clinton and her supporters.
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:50 am
And, thanks for proving you have no credible source proving your assertion that Ferraro or anyone else who opposes Obama has been threatened.
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am
The fact my comments are continually deleted proves the intolerance that exists here. Why can’t you people stand legitimate criticism?
on July 17th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
“The fact my comments are continually deleted proves the intolerance that exists here. Why can’t you people stand legitimate criticism?”
My guess, though I am not a hillary supporter, is that if you keep posting the same thing, or substantially the same thing, over and over again, you are seen (as I see you) as a broken record, or, as one much better at words than I, said
“A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”.
HTH, HAND
on July 17th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
justzisguy - thanks for the post but I take as a lack of tolerance on the part of Clinton supporters. As for over and over, that seems to be a description of the blog since it’s a continual Clinton lovefest. I posted legitimate criticisms of Hillary Clinton and, in one long post that was deleted, actually defended her regarding criticism related to her Iraq War vote.
No, i see it as another example of intolerance found in the Clintons and their supporters. They simply cannot stand criticism and simply cannot stand the thought that anyone - especially a woman - would find Hillary’s policies objecctionable.
They claim to be supporters of American ideals yet their censorship of my comments proves otherwise.
on July 17th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
“She was not readily recognized by the police officer, and was not wearing her congressional identification pin, which would have aided the cop in identifying her.”
Well, it is quite common for a Congresswoman/man not to wear the pin, and still most of them are easily recognized. McKinney was targeted and stopped many times before, therefore it’s highly likely that she was targeted because of sexism and probably racism.
A Capitol police officer is not supposed to stop a Congresswoman from entering the Capitol building. Grabbing her is totally inappropriate. And the media coverage was unjustifiably biased against her.
See, these are all attempts to discredit the female, alternative voice by focusing on frivolous issues. Remember Whitewater? They create controversies out of nothing and use them for years to smear progressive women and not to let us debate the real issues. Read McKinney’s policies, hear her speeches, and decide for yourself.
on July 17th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
two things - when you pay for server space, you get to decide what can stay, and what can go, and when someone has overstayed their welcome.
two - if you dislike it so much, why do you keep coming back?
I mean, if you find their treatment of you to be so abusive, yet you keep subjecting yourself to it, aren’t you leaving yourself in a position such as you bemoan about hrc?
on July 17th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
thrill 4 hill, your post _should_ be deleted, like any other post that uses the word nazi.
If you would care to frame your points in a logical, non-hyperbole form, then maybe you’d get the respect you currently choose not to show for anyone here …
on July 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Dear Hana,
I was going to cut and past your comments/questions here and try to address them to the best of my ability, using neutral sources (as far as neutral sources/factual sources can be found). I changed my mind, however, when I continued to read down the page to some of your other comments. Other writers here are accurate in their assessments of your personality–in so far that your aim seems to not be mollified by any of the facts in response to your so-called questions. Your “questions” seem to really be a foil for more attacks. And even with a hat tip to post-modern relativism, you are all over the board with your viewpoints. I call that “scatter gunning.” The purpose of which is to merely state opinions and then to argue against the arguments. It’s tiresome and doesn’t promote a dialogue. In response to your statements about Clinton’s socialism, I really tried to get past your abrasive style and think about what you were saying, but it occurred to me that however I might effectively rebut your “concerns”, (and I really could argue against them effectively), this is not what yoiu are looking for. So please either ratchet down your infaming writing style or find another venue that will appreciate and agree with it.
on July 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
In response to writing/calling/emailing SDs: I made calls last week to all my state SDs and many of them were glad to hear from me. If you have some time I would encourage you to do the same.
on July 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Oh woodhull, we were just waiting for your call…thanks woodhall…I now realize we were wrong all along…but then woodhall set us straight…how about we put hill on top and tell obama to go back where he belongs…I’m gonna call all the sds myself and tell them woodhall changed my mind…thanks woody your the best….
on July 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
woodhull, I posed legitimate questions regarding Hillary Clinton’s positions. I’m moret ha happy to read any material you post because, to be frank, I think you’re the only Clinton supporter using this blog that makes any sense in a post and, at the least, you were willing to read my posts.
My #1 concern is my family and our financial future. My complaint regarding Hillary Clinton, and Obama, are their constant reliance on bigger, more expensive government. I don’t think that’s the solution. Bigger government means more taxes and less freedom. I’m not the least bit happy with the way in which the Bush Administration has used the government or the fact it’s grown in size and power during the Bush presidency.
We do need change; however, I’m not willing to support a candidate who believes it takes a village to raise a child or who believes bigger, more expensive government is the solution to problems.
If we, as Americans, are ever going to fix our problems or, in the least, have a dialogue then it means we have to communicate.
Maybe you could do the following.
Explain to me why, knowing what you do about my concerns regarding my family’s fiancial future, I should consider voting for Hillary Clinton. In other words, what will her policies do, in a positive way, to make our lives better.
I don’t think that’s a ‘reactionary’ question but simply an honest question.
Secondly, if we’re concerned about fiscal responsibility, how do you explain why Hillary Clinton’s, or Barack Obama’s, proposed programs wouldn’t put this nation further into debt.
on July 17th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
woodhull - also, i posted a question regarding a comment related to threats against Geraldine Ferraro and someone else. I requested a credible source for that information. None has been given.
on July 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Bored now. *extra latte foam for anyone who gets the reference!*
Please don’t feed the trolls. It only encourages them to linger longer. As many of our regular posters know, we HH-ers do enjoy a good go-round and enjoy legit criticism, but it has to have substance. In fact, several regular posters here disagree with us on several points, but they appreciate the good conversation and occasional puns. Scatter-shotting is so 2002.
on July 17th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Hi Heels you might want to check out princess on fox and friends’ post internet show. it’s more hip and a bit more fun.
http://www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/index.html
And no thrill 4… you’re a pill— who is obviously in need of a medication recalibration. Yes as much as i hate to cut anyones comments, yours are a violation and will be deleted. i pay the bills here, so bye bye.
on July 17th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Oh, monolo, you really hurt my feelings. Honestly. Am I not “getting” the tone of this blog? I’m not very good with sustained sarcasm or flippancy so I guess I do come off as being a bit of of bore. Your comment about scatting gunning being “so 2002″ really hurt my feelings. I don’t understand your put down. Am I misreading you?
My aim with Hana is to try to understand her so that she might try to understand me, too. I’ve found that often we have lofty goals of everyone being able to discuss things respectfully, but I wouldn’t call Hana a troll — like in the vein of tbone.
Maybe it is me should find another forum. That would be too bad, because I really like the discussions here, but I think I’m too serious-minded, perhaps.
Thanks, everyone, for putting up with me. I wish us all success on Hillary.
P.S. On Saturday we celebrate the movement lauched by some really courageous women for the right for women to vote. A bunch of us are dressing as suffragettes and carrying signs for Hillary at different places around the country.
It’s a fascinating history and one to be rightfully proud of. One well-known sign that received a lot of angry reaction at the time: “Kaiser Wilson, Have you forgotten your sympathy with the poor germans because they were not self-governed? 20,000,000 American women are not self-governed. Take the beam out of your own eye.”
And this: “Woman’s cause is man’s — they will rise or fall together.
and finally: “Failure is Impossible — votes for women”
thanks again and happy trails!
on July 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Send us some snaps of the suffragettes on parade! we love them at hear at hh. Enjoy Seneca Falls woodhull. give us the full report when you get back— or better still… whilst you’re there.
—scl
on July 17th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Why don’t you set specific rules for what is acceptable on the site and what is not? THen there are no arguments, or less, due to things being clearly written in black and white.
on July 17th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/Default.aspx
This is the super delegate website which I used during the primary to send supers a letter. It’s faster and easier than Congress.org but I am not sure if it is still functioning since the “Call for Unity”, so I switched. used during the primary. I don’t know if it’s been updated or even functioning now since the Call for Unity. So I switched to Congress.org. Congress.org takes longer though, so if someone wants to try this other link it might still be working. I’m just not sure.
on July 17th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
there is one independent senator and one socialist senator they are essential to democratic control of the senate so we can be 3rd party and relevant…with just any number of seats
fuzzybeargville
on July 17th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
I e-mailed Pelosi via her website: This is the response I received:
Thank you for contacting my office.
Congressional courtesy prevents me from replying to emails if I cannot determine that you are a constituent of mine.
If you are not a resident of California’s 8th Congressional District and are contacting me in regard to my role as Speaker, please email me at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov.
If you are a resident of the 8th District of California, please contact my office in Washington, DC at (202) 225-4965 to be added to our database.
I e-mailed the American…address, and for good measure called her office. Come to think of it, I have called her office before and left my phone number, and she never even called me back. Do you think it was something I said? Perhaps the name Hillary Clinton send shivers of fear down her spine? No they can’t be it, she doesn’t have a spine; come to think of it, she doesn’t have any guts either. She could use some more botox though.
on July 17th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Alg0: “Why don’t you set specific rules for what is acceptable on the site and what is not?”
We didn’t set rules in the beginning, because it wasn’t necessary. Comments and commenters were respectful of each other and of us— as you have been.
I certainly don’t mind if someone disagrees with me. I think respectful debate is not only healthy it is necessary to the furtherance our democracy. I can assure you that whatever you are reading here on the public forum is nothing to what Princess and I are receiving privately.
We have discussed setting formal guidelines and in the near future may have to do so. Thanks to all of you who take the time to actively participate. Carry on!
— scl
on July 17th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Hi HireHeels - say what happened to the video of the “Bad Boys”? Wanted to send a PUMA guy over to see it - hannity & colmes are being very fair & balanced & suggested sending them some luv & I said you guys had made this really cool vid ? Is it available anywhere?
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/index.html
Is that Princess? I be damn!…………………….*faint*
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Thanks for this address: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov for Nancy Pelosi. What’s the best message to send her? Something like this? ” Please use your power as a Democratic Party leader to ensure an open convention in Denver. This means allowing Hillary Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination and encouraging delegates to support the candidate who is most likely to win in November.
If you do not do this, you are betraying the intended democratic process of the convention, and you will harm the party tremendously.”
Any other message that should go to her? Thanks for suggestions!
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Got this link at Pumapac.org. This guy got me rofl with his BS can’t wait when he gets back from Iraq so I can lmao again. In the meantime, we should make sure we welcome him back with something similar to this.
http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary.htm
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I think in fact, the party system should be done away with altogether….
Gasp!
What a crazy idea, just voting people in, based on accomplishments…. rather than a set of arcane and possibly manipulatable rules (cough! primarys Cough! electoral college)
really? it won’t be that easy.. no, nothing worthwhile ever is.
But a better way is possible… we just have to figure out what it is.
Then how to get there, and convince one person after another… tough, but hey, we had one American Revolution, why not another?
on July 17th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Top Hillary Donors Meet With McCain Officials on the H.M.S. Bounty
http://patriotroom.com/?p=566
“civilian national security force” call them Obots.
http://goatsbarnyard.blogspot.com/2008/07/just-what-does-obama-mean-by-this.html
on July 18th, 2008 at 8:19 am
I read HH every day even though I seldom comment. It’s interesting seeing how much hate there is for Cynthia. Yes, she has been profiled by the MSM as radical and controversial but before Dennis Kucinish, in the 109th Congress, Congresswoman McKinney introduced H. RES. 1109, the first member of congress to offer Articles of Impeachment against George W. Bush.
Do you think maybe this action has colored the news reporting of her stature as an elected member of government?
Just asking.
on July 18th, 2008 at 8:51 am
good morning heels. yes rey that is princess, but there is no time for swooning, we have work to do!:)
Susiepuma you may find all hireheels vids on youtube. here’s the badboys to bedboys link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhJnXl4kIA
have a fab day hh crew!
on July 18th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Why there is no more calls for the impeachment of George W. Bush is a question very much worth asking..are the democrats that weak or are they not allowed,,, certainly pelosi has shut down the issue. Funny also that a guy talks so much about the Nazis and the “Axis of Evil” (great associative) when his grandfather was convicted of trading with the enemies act because he was handling Nazi affairs in the US.
Yet no one has ever used that against him, or his father. hmmm…..
it’s a fact.. look it up.
on July 18th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Good morning everyone: how many things can we do to get our candidate nominated today? Squeeze in a few phone calls between clients to reps who don’t accept letters from anyone outside their district, perhaps? I’ll go with that.
Rey: yes, that was Princess. She’s a knock out isn’t she?
On Congress.org there’s a choice to have your letter posted on letters to our leaders site. Your letter also gets posted to other media outlets throughout the government. My letter to Kerry - - I did not check that option. It is difficult for me to figure why someone like him could go along with this charade. Somewhere beneath that white, starched shirt he wears now, there is a protestor still in there, somewhere….
EMJ: thanks for your suggestion. I think I will call Pelosi’s office and leave that on her voice mail. Short and to the point!!
Have a good day everyone!!
on July 18th, 2008 at 11:17 am
“She’s a knock out isn’t she?”
…..chaud, magnifique, intellegent et très intimidant.
However, Sista is correct…there are much more important things in hand than swooning….adviced well received.
on July 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Rey: it’s sounds so much better when you say it…..
Anyway, on to the more important…Sunita Leeds, DNC Rules Convention Committee member, her e-mail address is wrong. Must be a mis-print. I called the Washington office number that’s listed for her, and the operator did not have Ms. Leeds on her list. I was transferred to another office, and was given the phone number of the Denver Convention Office…I left a message, but have not received a reply yet. If I ever get the correct contact info for her, I will post it again.
on July 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Mais oui rey… you are correct on all counts! Flower I’m looking into finding ms. leed’s correct email. I’ll email it to you if I get the correct one. Thanks to all for your involvement!!
on July 18th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Just curious, has anyone have any info of a presidential poll that have Sen. Clinton included on it? I think it would be very interesting to see how she stack up with the boys. If not, should we try to communicate that to the community sites that handle the polls?
on July 18th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
good news everyone hillary will be on the ballot .
go pumas
on July 18th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
that was i great intreview princess.
good job
on July 18th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
got a question lets see if anyone know this. there like abought 178 Super Ds the regular Ds can change there mnds to. mabey the the pied pipers Ds have changed the minds & come over from the darkside.
go hillary
on July 18th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
and by the way rey i guess i havent seen princess’s 1st FOX intreview . i knew she was a “knock out” along time ago.
hope you don’t consider that a sexist comment princess.
go hillary.
on July 18th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Diane, you go girl! You were awesome on the Fox news show. You represented all of us well.
Thank you! Love your site.
on July 18th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
boogie the ballot isn’t the issue. her name needs to be submitted for nomination…
on July 18th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
yea sista i know whell at least it a start.
on July 18th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
“boogie the ballot isn’t the issue. her name needs to be submitted for nomination…”
There was an uproar earlier at Puma.org regarding this conversation. I truly question the integrity of this party and I wonder how deep the corruption in regards to the leadership and party. Surely, this are meant to break the will of the coalitions and I’m starting to question if this was Sen. Clinton wishes as well. I’m truly ill and I will refrain from saying anything farther to avoid the negative side of me that I really don’t like very much.
What can we do, Sista?
on July 18th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
NVM
Call and write the chairs of the DNC Rules Committee and tell them you want your vote represented. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than any primary candidate in American history. 18 million Democrats voted for a candidate who is now being disappeared by her party. Why, when she commands the support of a majority of the voters in her party, is Hillary being confined to a symbolic role in Denver? By disappearing Hillary from the Convention what the party bosses are really doing is DISAPPEARING OUR VOTES. ALL EIGHTEEN MILLION OF THEM. This is a swindle of massive proportions, and folks, they are getting away with it. They are saying that our votes don’t matter. That our delegates don’t have a real role at the convention. That those sworn to represent us, to vote for us in Denver, don’t really have a right to vote as it turns out.
Taking away the right of our delegates to vote? By extension, taking away our right to vote?
Are they serious?? Call today. Call as often as you can. Tell them to allow a true, meaningful roll call vote in Denver with Hillary Clinton’s name in nomination.
David WaltersPresident, Walters Power International Email: david@walterspower.com
Phone: (405) 528-2860
Fax: (405) 528-2466
Email: leedss@dnc.org Phone: (202) 863-8000
Mary Rose Oakar President, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Email: president@adc.org
Phone: (202) 244-2990 Fax: (202) 244-7968
on July 18th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
http://blog.pumapac.org/
on July 18th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
thanks rey. you’re right. we can let them hear the roar of 18 million voices and feel the sting of our 18 million closed wallets!
remember heels: country before party; people before policy. we must stand up and say we will not watch our basic rights as citizens be plucked or manipulated right in front of our eyes. everyone one of us has special talents; use them. whether it’s blanketing the blogosphere, creating awareness on the ground, lighting up the phone lines or blasting our message over the airwaves— stand tall heels! stand tall and deliver.
on July 18th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Dear Speaker Pelosi,
Please use your power as a Democratic Party leader to ensure an open convention in Denver. This means allowing Hillary Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination and encouraging delegates to support the candidate who is most likely to win in November.
If you do not do this, you are betraying the intended democratic process of the convention, and you will harm the party tremendously.
Sincerely,
************ Flower, Glad you liked my message (above). What’s the phone number? Thanks!
on July 18th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
dose anyone know what the dnc rules say abought this her name being up for nomination
dose anyone have the specifics in the DNC rule book abought this subject.
go hillary
on July 18th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
but then the DNC seems to make the rules up as the go along when it suites them.
puma power
on July 18th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
i have a copy of the rules boogie gleaned from the DNC’s site over a month ago. if you want me to forward it to you send me an email. my email is in the “about” us section.
— scl
on July 18th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
- from another site
Media Summer Two Step (S)Election Rig
Summer Spin for the Nowhere Man features a smashing new strategy to win the hearts and minds of Hillary supporters. Having voraciously devoured her dignity, gone to all lengths to destroy her credibility and spending the Primary season obliterating all objective information about her Presidential candidacy, MSM has decided its time to give the little lady her due.
CNN’s Friday, July 11, latest masterpiece in manipulation, indicates the degree to which the obama (I refuse to ever capitalize his name) campaign is worried. Giving Hillary more continuous air coverage, in this 60 minute special, than it ever did during the vote-getting season, the network hinted that Hillary deserves some credit, after all. While they pointed out (in their version) that, although she ran a terrible campaign which got off on a failing footing - due to her “arrogant” presumption of entitlement to office (a perspective the MSM, not Senator Clinton, generated) - it’s now come to light that the Clintons hold sway with millions of voters.
Now, isn’t that an extraordinary insight we needed ‘the world’s largest news network’ to make clear? And that being the case, it’s time to give this she-devil her due - for, without her, it appears their Golden Boy might fall short of their mutual aims. While the same evidently illiterate geniuses at work continue to blur all distinctions between Hillary’s platforms and Barack’s, they and obama’s conjoined Corporate cause has begun, at last, to realize his polling results are shakier, week by week, and that will not serve. A strategic new spin is, thus, demanded.
And this one, as demonstrated by Andersen Cooper and friends, requires due deference to the more qualified Clinton, her unswerving supporters and even (however demeaning to acknowledge) her husband, with his record of salvaging our Republic from the ravages of the first Bush. We really should give MSM credit due. It’s musn’t be easy to stoop to inviting back two genuine, intelligent Hillary supporters (not the backstabbers they usually prefer to include). Next, think of the editing gymnastics involved in juxtaposing these candid commentaries on the Clintons’ undying merits with enough punctuating invalidations by network anti-Clintons to convey their real message. It goes something like this:
“What’s wrong with you people! We’ve been carefully applying our favorite technique- namely, to mesmerize all viewers with hourly repetitions of the same contrived ‘facts’ we want the public to believe- against their own best interests. How many times do we have to tell you that this campaign is over?! This is getting taxing (not on corporations, of course.)”
“Time for the ole bait and switch sales pitch. Hillary is soooo great, she ought to be a lifetime achievement leader in the Senate. (After all, somebody’s got to actually work on the issues.) Or, just imagine - she could be Governor of the great state of New York. Just picture her, even, on the Supreme Court in one of those cool black robes. And, if there are any out there who don’t think Hillary deserves such authority (since we’ve been saying otherwise for months on end), for you, here’s our stylish twenty-something female AA probama ‘expert’ who even agrees any of the above should do nicely. Finally, we’ll throw in our standard line-up of patriarchal women haters to remind you all - if you’re not over your emotional outburst yet, we guarantee by November, you won’t even remember what brought it on!”
“Lastly, if we must, (and this segment issued, no doubt, on directive of Axelrod/Hitler himself) we will cast her gaze and your own toward the Vice Presidency. Think of what a Hillary Vice Presidency could do for the country. Breathe a sigh of relief knowing, that if she can only follow him around closely, twenty-four/seven, our nation and the world might stand a better chance of surviving his lack of leadership skills. However, as spokemen for obama’s campaign (even as grossly overpaid as we are) we aren’t in a position of being held to this offer. If it comes, it could only be bestowed by the Messiah himself. And we’re sure you understand, he won’t even offer unless he is certain of an acceptance. Not by Hillary, for that’s a given, but by her voters. We now extend the possibility of this time-limited offer and highly recommend you accept it, before it is off the table. Should you refuse, we will naturally never acknowledge any commitment was given nor implied. In the meantime, we’ll dangle it as the latest worm on our hook and see what impact it has on the next set of polls before deciding whether to pursue it further. . . . . and now back to our commercials for other useless, shoddy products you don’t really need or want.”
The momentuously multiplying Just Say No Deal members, who just raised millions in a few weeks, may be asking: Won’t they ever get it? We are not buying. Free shipping, vote pandering, issue-switching and globally expanding publicity aside. This is not a product we want in our White House. Not even with the finest of window dressing. Not even with internationally televised speeches, given in historic settings after weeks of plagiarized compilation and rehearsal. Not even if mobama learns to speak French in a whisper and wear Jackie Kennedy costumes day and night for eight years running. Not even if secret new technologies send night-long near-silent subliminal signals, via our sleeping computers: “It’s over, it’s over, buy now or be sorry later.”
Our answer will remain the same (in paraphrase of the wonderful witch from “Wicked”) “Whose to say we’ve been changed for the better? We only know we’ve been changed for good!” We are and shall remain . . . in one voice . . .nobama, noway, nohow.
Ain’t it funny how Will Bower can say more worth saying in a matter of moments on Fox than all Humpty Dumpty’s men can manage in a full hour on CNN?!
on July 18th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Good for you Cynthia-You may get my Vote-there I voted for a more competent Black Woman-I am neither sexist or racist-take that bots
fuzzybeargville
on July 18th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
the other day the pied piper announced that he raised 55MIL in june . but all the reports iv been heraing all is that he has been having trouble . in alomst every way. plus scince the primary season is over .ther has been a big drop in past months/ hes been pissing of alot of obamanation by his flip floping . there been like a 30 mil pickup this month.
mabey its just me but i smell a rat./ anyone else feel the same way.
go hillary
on July 18th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Dean’s Office - (202) 863-8000, you’ll get connected to the comment line
Pelosi - 202 225 4965 - you will get her voice mail and her personal greeting.
Edward Espinoza, CA, superdelegate pledged to O says he has received only a few letters from Hillary supporters urging him to repledge to Senator Clinton. Anyone want to help me boost those numbers? his e-mail is: communications@liuna.org.
Muchos gracias!!
on July 18th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
sure ill e-mail him. what is he a senator or what
on July 18th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Boogie: I don’t know. It was a small post on PUMA and the comment didn’t include that. There was a link to the article but I couldn’t copy it. I just addressed him as Mr. and didn’t even think of it actually. I did that quickly this afternoon in the office.
Say….I was the one who used “knock out”. I don’t think that’s sexist.
on July 18th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
COOL, i aready e-mail’d him . i hope it was a him lol
puma power
on July 19th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Funny, his first name is Edward. No, I wouldn’t doubt for a moment O is inflating his numbers; God only knows who is contributing. You know he in in trouble with his dealings in Chicago. Read and keep an eye on Chicago Sun Times, Rezko watch. Big trouble ahead for the “chosen” one.
on July 19th, 2008 at 12:15 am
You may find this as farfetch as I did but, perhaps Nostradamus have a thing or two to say about the current events.
American Electoral College voting stalemate
(Century VII, Quatrain 41)
The presidents of the United States, a supposedly free country, have been abusing their
power to an increasingly greater extent. During a time of social unrest even more so
than the period of Vietnam and Watergate, the Electoral College will be evenly split over
the election of the new president. The process will stalemate, with many people
clamoring for whichever candidate they voted for, causing enormous tension in the
country. Internationally it will be a sensitive situation.
Because of the split, and the extremely volatile and explosive social unrest, putting
either candidate in office instead of the other could start a civil war or a revolution. After
a long time of impassioned speeches invoking patriotism and the founding fathers, a
compromise solution of holding another election will be taken, and a candidate will be
installed without disaster.
The Antichrist will initially obtain power in his own sphere, Asia, and the Middle East. As
he grows out of this arena, and into Europe, the next step will be into the Mediterranean,
his area of strength. Because of his Middle Eastern heritage he will have already united
North Africans, who are sympathetic to his cultural background, with his Asian and Middle Eastern conglomerate.
on July 19th, 2008 at 12:54 am
its is kinda out there if you know what i mean rey,
on July 19th, 2008 at 11:05 am
today is the day that we find out if hillary debt had been paid of or how much is left . anybody know what the outcome was?
go hillary
on July 19th, 2008 at 11:54 am
“its is kinda out there if you know what i mean rey,”
Lol…ya…but it sounded good..
on July 19th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
I was up early this morning going thru some of the post at Pumapac. I think MO was blogging online reaching out to the working mother and trying to relate.
Gee…did someone feed Gizmo after midnight? I know it’s mean but, I can’t help to relate her look and personality to a Gremlin.
on July 19th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
http://amerisrael.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/07/when-doing-the-wrong-thing-is-the-right-thing.html
on July 19th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Robert Redford prophecy
http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/kraft/r_kraft.htm
White Apathy
http://accelerant.blogsome.com/2008/07/19/white-apathy-the-guiding-force-for-younger-voters/
on July 19th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
If you need more info on how unqualified Obama is . . . . .
Obama’s Inexperience Tough to Ignore
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:56 AM
By: Ronald Kessler
A close look at Barack Obama’s career reveals it has been even more mediocre than generally recognized.
Before being elected to the Illinois state Senate, Obama worked as a community organizer and a lawyer in Chicago.
In his memoir, Obama says being a community organizer taught him how to motivate the powerless and work the government to help them. His chief example is an effort to remove asbestos from Altgeld Gardens, an all-black public housing project on Chicago’s South Side.
But those who were involved in the effort say Obama played a minor role in working the problem and never accomplished his goal. A pre-existing group at Altgeld Gardens and a local newspaper, the Chicago Reporter, were working on the problem before Obama came on the scene, yet Obama does not mention them in his book, “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
“Just because someone writes it, doesn’t make it true,” says Altgeld resident Hazel Johnson, who had been pushing for a cleanup of the cancer-producing substance years before Obama showed up.
Rep. Bobby L. Rush, D-Ill., says it was Johnson’s work, along with asbestos testing by the Chicago Reporter, that got Chicago officials interested in the issue. Rush, who launched an inquiry into the situation when he was a member of the Chicago City Council, says he is “offended” that Obama did not mention Johnson in his account.
“Was [Obama] involved in stuff? Absolutely,” says Robert Ginsburg, an activist who worked with Johnson and Obama on the problem. “But there was stuff happening before him, and after him.”
After three years working as an organizer, Obama could say he helped obtain grants for a jobs program and got asbestos removed from some pipes in the project. But as the Los Angeles Times has noted, the “large-scale change that was needed at the 1,998-unit project was beyond his reach.” To this day, most of the asbestos remains in the apartments.
Fruitless though his efforts were, Obama devoted more than 100 pages to his experiences at Altgeld Gardens and surrounding areas. Michelle Obama has said his work as a community organizer helped him decide “how he would impact the world,” assisting people to improve their lives. Yet, in a revealing passage in his book, Obama wrote, “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly.”
Instead, he said, “I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”
Thus, Obama admitted that he accomplished little but that he was able to cover that up with fancy talk about change.
After going to Harvard Law School, Obama returned to Chicago, where he briefly headed a voter registration drive and then became a lawyer. While Obama’s campaign has touted him as a civil rights lawyer, “Over the nine years that Obama’s law license was active in Illinois, he never handled a trial and mostly worked in teams of lawyers who drew up briefs and contracts in a variety of cases,” according to David Mendell’s “Obama: From Promise To Power.”
A review of the cases Obama worked on during his brief legal career “shows he played the strong, silent type in court, introducing himself and his client, then stepping aside to let other lawyers do the talking,” the Chicago Sun-Times has reported.
“A search of all the cases in Cook County Circuit Court in which Obama made an appearance since he graduated from Harvard in 1991 shows: zero,” the article said.
Instead, his practice was “confined mainly to federal court in Chicago, where he made formal appearances in only five district court cases and another five in cases before the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals — a total of 10 cases in his legal career,” the paper said.
If Obama had virtually no impact as either a community organizer or as a lawyer, he was even more invisible in the state Senate and later in the U.S. Senate.
In both bodies, Obama had a reputation for voting “present,” thus avoiding controversial decisions that could be used against him later. In the U.S. Senate, he has missed more than one in five votes.
Only one of the measures Obama has sponsored as a U.S. senator was enacted: a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.”
Contrary to Obama’s portrayal of himself as a unifier, on every bipartisan effort in the Senate to forge compromises on tough issues, Obama has been missing in action.
In sum, it would be difficult to imagine a more mediocre record. Most candidates for dog catcher have contributed more to society. Yet with the help of adoring reporters, Obama has managed to parlay extraordinary speaking and political skills into a presidential campaign built on sand.
The idea that America might entrust its security and future to someone who has never demonstrated an ability to get anything of significance done is scary.
Look for John McCain to begin exploiting this vulnerability after Labor Day.
Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com. View his previous reports and get his dispatches sent to you free via
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on July 20th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
There was a fairly lengthy interview with McKinney on her website http://runcynthiarun.org/ from earlier in the year. Her acceptance speech is now there. Listen for yourself and decide whether or not she deserves more of your attention and perhaps support and vote.
Paz