Shift-Shaft, you’re no Patrick Swayze!
Obama, fresh from giving his progressive blogosphere groupies the shaft, is now busy wooing undecided swing voters to the dance floor. After shifting his position on campaign finance reform, Obama attempts more smooth moves than Patrick Swayze in 
Dirty Dancing (though Johnny masterfully balances Baby in the final scene!). Obama’s awkward shifts to the right of the political spectrum are so numerous, it’s more like watching Michael Jackson moonwalking sideways. HireHeels asks: what, you just figured out that swing-dancers no likey-like two left feet?
Obama’s shifts giving the far-left the shaft are blatant and numerous: granting
telecom immunity on FISA; admitting “heated rhetoric” on NAFTA; making “inartful” statements on the DC gun ban; siding with judges Alito, Scalia, and Thomas on the death penalty; and on his impending trip to Iraq: “I am going to do a thorough assessment when I’m there,” he said. “I’m sure I’ll have more information and continue to refine my policy.”
Translation: That 16-month withdrawal promise that I made was just words.
On abortion: (hat tip to Jeralyn @ TalkLeft)
In an interview this week with “Relevant,” a Christian magazine, Obama said prohibitions on late-term abortions must contain “a strict, well defined exception for the health of the mother.”
Obama then added: “Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term.”
I’m sure this sits well with NARAL.
Thanks a lot, Kos and Arianna. You got played. Obama used you up and kicked you to the curb when he was done with you. You fell for his smooth, sultry “hopey-changey” pick-up lines and laid down for him. Now we’re all doing the walk of shame in step.
Obamabots, this could be your Dancing With The Stars moment!
You remember Hillary, right? The dependable, wonky, pantsuited princess who did everything Precious did only backwards, uphill, blistered, battered, blindfolded and in heels! The gal that you all mercilessly smeared because she had the gall to stay in the dancehall ‘til the last dance.
Well, nobody puts Baby in a corner. She’s tanned, rested, and ready. And there’s 18 million of us who’ve still got her back. And it’s not too late to use your collective platforms (blogs, not shoes) to help sway public opinion in Hillary’s favor. Obama is not officially the nominee until the superdelegates cast their votes in Denver. If there is a tsunami of support for Hillary leading up to the convention, the superdelegates will put their fingers up in the air and feel that the political winds have shifted. You can still help make this happen. You can still say No Deal!
Or you can continue to embarrass yourselves by standing by your right-moonwalker after he’s left you for a hotter, more elusive voting bloc. It’s your call. Just know that as long as you continue to chase him unconditionally, you’ll compromise the progressive values that you proclaim to care so deeply about. Be careful. Don’t end up like poor, knocked-up Penny in Dirty Dancing.
on July 5th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Thanks for a great post, hireheels. We have to keep ourselves focused on the Denver convention and helping HRC.
on July 5th, 2008 at 9:57 am
“nobody puts baby in a corner”…one of the greatest all-time lines!
i keep trying out shift-shafter but can’t say it 3 times fast.
How about shape shifter? This has a rich history in mythology. j.k. rowlings has used it freely in the harry potter series.
bo is the pentultimate political shape shifter.
on July 5th, 2008 at 10:12 am
we cant let this guy anywhere near the whitehouse-or it will be “just speeches just words” every night in prime time for for four years. please for the love pete and petra lets pick a winner Hillary clinton.
the road of broken promises runs through obamas front yard.
fuzzybeargville
on July 5th, 2008 at 10:22 am
piper i hear they are having a puma/jsnd confrence/planning meeting in miami. I was wondering if e could have one here maybe in Jville or Orlando. Orlando would be nice because we could get some of or friends up from tampa st pete and daytona as well as the orlando jville area.
We could start taking this from the virual viral world to the real world!
fuzzybeargville
on July 5th, 2008 at 10:31 am
fbg–that sounds like a fabulous idea! i’m thinking of attending the one in miami. i’ll have to forgo that pair of peep-toe pumps i’d been eyeing to afford the gas to get there though. sigh. the things we girls must do for democracy.
on July 5th, 2008 at 10:39 am
oh, do pen on, sweet ladies, and like-minded gents. I have been referring this site to my fence-sitting friends, to help them see that hope is not really dead. It has just been temporarily usurped by the poser. What does it take to open American eyes? I am begining to understand why FDR didn’t tell everyone about the Pearl thing. Most of them would justhave said,”Oh it can’tbe THAT bad.” It was then, and it is now. Please wake up fellow Americans, you are not dreaming, this is not a drill, this is the future, and your inactivity is causing it to happen now.
on July 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
LOL! You have an incredible writing style.
Keep the articles coming and “go pumas”!
on July 5th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
If he threw his spiritual mentor under said bus after 20yrs, why is anyone surprised by his latest actions. He is a disaster for the democrats! I hope it is not too late. Hillary 2008!
on July 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Obama has raised and spent money during the primary as though there was no tomorrow. This makes me wonder if he would be able to manage the economic problems of this country.
on July 5th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Informal family polls of the 4th revealed that the McCain people would never even consider a vote for Hillary if she were on the ballot. So hrc backers should reconsider the threat to vote McCain. The backs-to-the-wall mentality is a motivator of many a knight who won his princess.
on July 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
dear swpanna,
I don’t know that it makes any difference. We were never looking for any help from the Reps. There are probably some who would vote for Hillary, and probably a lot of Inds. but, primarily this is about taking back our party, and backing the woman who actually should have been the candidate.
on July 5th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
you have an amazing way with words princess. looks like pancake boy AKA obama has tossed is just much of obama-nation under the bus so fast they still have skid marks on them . while the rest of the obama,nites are doing thier heil obama’s & havent figured thev just been played.
go pumas
on July 5th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Hey, no problem if you don’t like what “the one” is saying today, cause he’ll more than likely flip-flop and say the exact opposite tomorrow.
I imagine John Kerry is having an envy attack an hour. There he was giving long-winded, but nuanced responses and was called a serial flip-flopper.
Along comes Mr. Wonderful, flip-flopping his tiny little brains out and for the most part there is silence. Crickets even. He’s a flip-floppers flip-flopper and not even getting credit for being a constant flip-floppper.
Oh for the days of yore when the MSM hated all Democrats and called them for real or imaginined sins of ommision or commission.
Now media annoints the “one” and is still bitching about Bill and Hill not rushing to kiss his ring. It’s enough to make an old lefty weep. If I could stop cussing long enough.
on July 5th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Hello all, a small shift in conversation though definitely related. It would appear that a few Obamakins are now beginning to throw BamaMac under the bus. This is MAJOR and high time we had some good news….NYT Editorial Board no less:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/04/even-the-new-york-times-editorial-board-turns-on-obama/
also, Philly.com and Boston.com have similar articles. Spread the word and uplift the troops!
on July 5th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Nice pick up on the pandering to Christian right to lifers. So much for all the talk about defending Roe Vs. Wade. After all, the big O did vote present in Illinois whenever reproductive rights came up. Of course, if the right to life folks want to get in bed with this guy, they will have only themselves to thank the morning after.
on July 5th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
thx boogieman …. i chased down jaws & planet of the apes with dirty dancing…
suzanne - i agree: “nobody puts Baby in a corner” is a classic!!!!
on July 5th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Thanks for the great post. Nobody puts BABY in a corner
No DEAL
on July 5th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Thanks for the great post. Nobody puts BABY on a corner
No DEAL
on July 5th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
obama always has been during his political career, a corrupt and two -faced . His supporters are duped by promises of dreams easily constantly reversed by him..
on July 5th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com, is enough for me to never vote for obama, hes a cocaine , and not a family man,,i should have known, he was a lawyer,,and a slum lord helper, not to mention the commy soros..who supports obama moveon.org, he wants to sue the telephone companies so that obama can listen to all our phone calls via his select phone companies, as the others will go bankrupt..so the dems want to stop talk radio via the fairness doctrine, stop phone privacy, via lawsuits and fisa, bailout their sub prime countryside, as chris dodd and others have to pay back their sweetheart deals..change tv so that we will only have the ones obama selects..and we all know how hes already been shuting down blogs online… so shall we all unify and vote for a commy who loves muslim radicals , iran leaders. and countrys who hate america? they are all hoping so…
on July 5th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Obama “clarifies” his position on abortion:
speaking to reporters on his campaign plane, obama said mental health exceptions—which are a real battleground issue in the abortion debate–can be “rigorously” limited to only those women with “serious clinical mental health diseases.” he said mental health exceptions are not intended permit abortions when a woman simply “doesn’t feel good.”
“it is not just a matter of feeling blue,” obama said.
here’s the problem with that, and why obama’s remarks are so startling. obama is trying to restrict abortions after 22 weeks to those women who have a serious disease or illness. but the law today also covers some women who are in “mental distress,” those women who would suffer emotional and psychological harm without an abortion.
this standard has long been understood to require less than “serious clinical mental health disease.” women today don’t have to show they are suffering from a “serious clinical mental health disease” or “mental illness” before getting an abortion post-viability, as obama now says is appropriate.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-revisits.html
on July 5th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
thanks for the analysis indieyogini. it seems that obama has been having to do a lot of clarification this week.
on July 5th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Princess and Piper: Brava, brava!! I love your post and I loved that movie. No O is no Johnny Castle; he’s more like Robbie the waiter/med student. Hope you had a great 4th. I don’t know what O is talking about on gay issues either. He’s not for gay marriage but for strong civil unions???? Want to get that clarified so I can deprogram my brother.
xxoo everyone!!
on July 5th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
If you’ve seen an Obama type before, it’s not hard to recognize the Willard when seen again. Obama is all about Obama, the rest of us & our concerns are nothing but steps on his ladder. HRC tried to warn us, the MSM cut her short.
on July 5th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Hi all, I’m new here and I’m not sure if this has ever been covered before.
It’s also off topic, but I hope you’ll bear with me.
Wouldn’t an official PUMA PUMP be cool?
Maybe a nice black velvet stilletto with gold accents at the heel and base, or a black peau de soie cross-strap sandal with the same complimentary gold accents.
I know, it’s impractical and probably impossible to achieve, but hey, a girl can dream, can’t she?
If it’s been discussed before, my apologies, but you know what they say about great minds, right?
on July 6th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Please read between the lines. You know how the obamapods have infiltrated our ranks by signing some of our names to phone posts? Hmmm. You know how they’ve been trying to set us at war with each other in recent weeks by posing as unity ponies? They’ve tried to discourage us from voting for McCain by trotting out R v W and justices?
owt anc lpay thta egme, irgth?
It’s also a lot of fun.
on July 6th, 2008 at 6:15 am
pst pst pst Check this out! Scary or what?
BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM-Contraversial or what?
9NEWS.COM
posted by: Tiffani Lupenski July 2, 2008
NATIONAL ANTHEM STIRS CONTRAVERSY FOR CITY
DENVER - Mayor John Hickenlooper’s annual State of the City address may get more attention for what wasn’t included than what was.
At the start of the event Tuesday morning, City Council President Michael Hancock introduced singer Rene Marie to perform the national anthem.
Instead, she performed the song “Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing,” which is also known as the “black national anthem.”
When she finished, the audience responded with mild applause. The national anthem was never performed.
Governor Bill Ritter (D-Colorado) discussed the incident on The Mike Rosen Show on 850 KOA on Wednesday morning, calling it “inappropriate.”
“I don’t think it’s fair artistic expression,” said Ritter.
Ritter went on to say he felt Marie’s actions were “wrong” and “outside the bounds.”
“It certainly is operating as a distraction,” said Ritter.
Marie told 9NEWS she kept her plans to switch songs quiet until the very last moment. She says only she, her husband and a friend knew she was going to sing something other than the “Star-Spangled Banner.”
She says she wanted to express her love of her country by mixing the lyrics of “Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing” with the melody of the “Star-Spangled Banner.”
“When I decided to sing my version, what was going on in my head was: ‘I want to express how I feel about living in the United States, as a black woman, as a black person,’” said Marie.
Hickenlooper’s staff picked Marie to sing the national anthem. The mayor says he believes Marie did not intend to offend anyone or make a political statement.
When asked if he was offended, Hickenlooper said, “You know I was more confused and I think I was more ? what I was, was disappointed and confused and that’s why I wanted to talk to her.”
“Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing” was written as a poem by James Weldon Johnson in 1899 and set to music by his brother in 1900.
City Councilman Charlie Brown took to talk radio Tuesday afternoon to criticize the absence of the national anthem at the State of the City proceedings.
“There is no substitute for the national anthem, period,” Brown said. “And that’s what really bothered me. You know when we fly the flag, the American flag, it’s always the highest flag, as it should be. And that didn’t come across today, that didn’t happen today.”
In hindsight, both Brown and Hickenlooper say they should have stopped Marie or began singing themselves.
Marie says if she had the benefit of doing it over, she would sing the same song.
When asked if she would apologize for what happened she said, “No I do not.”
Marie has been singing professionally for 10 years.
Brown says he doesn’t have a problem with people expressing their views, but he says Marie chose the wrong venue.
BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM
Below are the full lyrics to “Lift Ev’ry Voice & Sing”
LIFT EV’RY VOICE AND SING
“The Black National Anthem”
by James Weldon Johnson
Lift ev’ry voice and sing,
Till earth and heaven ring.
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
Let our rejoicing rise,
High as the list’ning skies,
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on till victory is won.
Stony the road we trod,
Bitter the chast’ning rod,
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;
Yet with a steady beat,
Have not our weary feet,
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,
Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.
God of our weary years,
God of our silent tears,
Thou who has brought us thus far on the way;
Thou who has by Thy might,
Led us into the light,
Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
Lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee,
Shadowed beneath thy hand,
May we forever stand,
True to our God,
True to our native land.
on July 6th, 2008 at 6:16 am
The reason Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama is because they are embarrassed of him, his life, his unfair tactics and his beliefs. And they still don’t know all about him.
They don’t want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.
They don’t’ want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Pflaeger as his compass in life
They don’t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist.
They don’t want to defend Black Liberation theology.
They don’t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.
They don’t want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.
They don’t want a candidate that Hamas supports.
They don’t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support
They don’t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she was proud of our country.
They don’t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices
They don’t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)
They don’t want a candidate that fights unfair and steals Michigan delegate votes from his opponent.
They don’t want a candidate that feels sorry to leave a church that is anti American and that preaches hatred and racial views that are cruel and nasty.
They don’t want a candidate that is inexperienced.
They don’t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.
They don’t want a candidate that has a “non practicing” Muslim father, but avoids the entire discussion of his father.
They don’t’ want a candidate that won’t debate
They don’t’ want a candidate that misleads the youth with an ‘Obama girl and her behind in their face”
They don’t want a candidate that says he’s an African American and missed the MLK Remembrance Day and the Louisiana Black Caucus meeting
They don’t want a candidate that has done nothing for humanity except talk about it.
They don’t’ want a candidate that has poor judgment.
They don’t’ want a candidate named; Barack Hussein Obama
He scares them to death.
He is embarrassing.
He is unelectable.
on July 6th, 2008 at 7:02 am
Hillary in August. Nothing less. Period.
on July 6th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Al from New Jersey
- indeed, the black lib theology thang remains an issue for many Americans - as I put forth in my 2 Baptisms, A Wedding & A Funeral post…since it’s a church-goin’ day - i’ve excerpted for you
Ask yourself: Do you sincerely believe that Barack Obama (or his wife for that matter) is not at all influenced by Reverend Jeremiah Wright – even though his book and its title are inspired by the man and his sermons?Are you comfortable knowing that Obama continues to support and attend a church that views America through a “Black Liberation Theology” lens?
I am not the most pious princess, but I did go attend church the Sunday after 9-11. Are you sure Obama was not in Trinity that day? And even if he weren’t…and even if Wright’s anti-American rant were an isolated case, how could he not have heard about such a radical sermon on a day when even some agnostics attended religious services? Do you accept that he stayed with Trinity, even after Reverend Wright’s rant on September 16 immediately following the attacks on our country?
Does it make sense to you that he’d baptize his two precious girls there and can you imagine introducing such radical views into your own children’s impressionable universe?
Lastly, have you heard of Trinity’s three murdered gay, black male congregants in the span of 40 days a few months back? (for more on that, read: holy gay choir boy)
on July 6th, 2008 at 7:56 am
josgirl …it’s not at all “off topic”
Your idea: Wouldn’t an official PUMA PUMP be cool?….
well, is brilliant! For those who do not know it…Sista Christian Louboutin illustrated (by hand) the hireheels signature shoes…
she’s been a bit laid up for a few weeks - but i suspect we’ll be seeing something when she’s back to on her louboutin-stylin’ feet!!
Welcome to hireheels JosGirl - think of us a nice spa pedicure amidst the muck of this elex!!
on July 6th, 2008 at 8:04 am
hmmm i didnt know there was a black national athem .
i thik it was “inappropriate.” of her to do that.
i wonder how she would have felt. hired somebody to sing
black national athem . then out of the blue they decided to sing
Dixie .
on July 6th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Good morning, a beautiful Sunday. I remember when all the stores were closed on Sunday; everyone went to church; and the radio played church music only. In fact, everything was closed. And I’m not even that old. Just so that you know, petitions and letters went to Cardinal George regarding that priest from Catholics. We were outraged. I spent the entire morning calling Cardinal George’s various offices to get his fax number, and sent him a letter. A lot of us did that. A petition circulated calling for the removal of that priest. In no time in my life have I ever been exposed to a priest like that. It is against our religion to discuss politics. It’s never been done in any church I have ever attended. EVER!! He is a disgrace. Too much more of him and the Pope will be receiving a letter. In fact, the Pope was contacted as well. O can very well deny the racist intent of his church; he can say he wasn’t there on certain days, but….certainly he knew the mission statement of that so called church. I suppose he never read that either. Unity removed the mission statement from their websites, but I copied and pasted it into a file before they removed it. O accepted their doctrine when he became their version of Christianity. They can use the doctrine of Christ as a cover to their intent, but that’s all it is. O wasn’t there to hear all his rants; he was absent on 9/11; but….he also claimed that he did not know that the headlines of every Chicago newspapers were announcing the pending indictment of Rezko when O entered into a house/land deal with him. Well, that’s pretty curious since attorneys read every paper in America every day. And now he has his faith based initiative. How much money has he promised Unity in order to keep Wright’s mouth closed? And that obnoxious priest? What about his church? Romney explained how his faith would or would not affect his presidency. President Kennedy did that as well. Now what about O? He just slides by with his radical views and twisted version of scriptures, which are bound to rear it’s ugly head right after he takes the oath of office. He gives his racism speech, his patriotism speech, but he has yet to deliver a speech on Liberation Theology, has an ad circulating with O at a podium in front of a huge cross. What was he trying to say with that photo, that Jesus was endorsing him? It is very sad that a presidential candidate has to go to these lengths to address real concerns about his patriotism and his Chrisitan beliefs. I’ve had my religious instruction, in fact, I’ve taught it; so I really don’t need to be preached to by a President of the US. That’s not the function of a President.
on July 6th, 2008 at 9:05 am
sugar of ’sugar n spice’ has a ,great post, complete with video, about the ‘lift every voice and sing/star spangled banner’ mash up.
on July 6th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Princess: are you serious? I thought the murders of the three gay choir boys was a smear. Do you know that in the middle east, they kill you if they find out you are gay? And from what I understand, it isn’t death by lethal injection. It’s torture.
on July 6th, 2008 at 9:59 am
this post if for basketball fan and good friend sista-
Sorry so silent fuzzybear has been feelinng down last few days-a physical thing not a mental thing-but am feeling much better today. You guys have always kept me pumped up.
On blogtalkradio last week amember from one of the PUMA organizations said “…there are many ways to get to an Obama defeat in November..” all are valid we have to look at it like basketball.
There are one point, two point, and three point shots against the big “o”. Think of those who stay home or dont vote for president on their ballot as a one point shot against team obama. Those who vote third party or write in Hillary where allowed as a two point shot, and those who vote McCain as a three point shot.
We need to use all these shots to attain victory they are all equally important to getting the job done. If you do any one of the above choices you are playing for “Team PUMA” . You are helping us get past the final four. We are going to win this but we cannot win in overtime.
WE have to all play together as a well oiled and TEAM. It means respecting the other players on your team and throwing them the ball and trusting them to go down court with it.
I saw this in the NCAA Gator BBall team 2006/2007, that is what we have to be like. Not acting like one mind (the obamanation way) but each mind focused on what we can do to to contribute to the big Victory and respecting each players contribution to the effort.
So the question is what is fuzzybear going to do, a one, two, or three point shot? You all will have to wait and see depends what we need when I take that ball down the court in the last 3 seconds of the game.
Fuzzybeargville
Sorry for the shameless plug for the Florida Orange and Blue
on July 6th, 2008 at 11:23 am
i met with a local meetup group in oakland california yesterday.
we are getting organized to help plan for denver, and for marches within our state to coordinate with other major cities across the country.
we had people attend from san jose, san francisco and san ramon as well as oakland. the organizer is also planning a conference call with southern ca.
if you are in the state, please go to this site and join us.
http://hrclinton.meetup.com/129/
it was a great time brainstorming and sharing ideas.
i even met the famous normita.
please join us if you are in calif. to ensure our state organizes a huge number of participants.
on July 6th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Josgirl, we loves us shoe designs! Thanks for coming on board.
As for rumors and speculation about Obama’s reluctance to discuss an absent father and all that other personal stuff, I truly couldn’t give a damn. (Then again, I don’t exactly blow the family farm reading the tabloids, either.) I care about what he’s doing in his public life that worries me: the manipulation of the DNC, the insistence on his early coronation, the massive policy shifts contradicting his own stated aims; and so on. But here’s gossip I can really wrap my claws around: our fellow PUMA Riverdaughter says that Howard Dean seems to have fubar’d the actual convention. Mmmmm. Schadenfreude. Yummy!
on July 6th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
manolo I know and now obama may have to foot the bill…only to watch his nomination slip through his fingers…and still his fundraising is falling falling and falling….makes you wonder how many of those primary dollars he raised were from republican hands that have now shifted their largesse to Sen.McCain?
These republican’s will also shift their $$$ to “non-affilliated” issue adverts that will be very anti obama….
fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I was watching david corn on one of the morning shows this morning talk about how bo’s patriotism is being questioned because he is black. um how about because he supported a church that spews anti american anti female and anti gay filth ad nauseum. this whole idea that you can’t disagree with him or question without being called racist is exhausting. i honestly do not think that there is any chance of getting hillary anywhere near this ticket much less on top. even if bo killed someone and kicked a puppy and they had to replace him. i think they would draft gore or edwards, their loathing of hillary knows no bounds. therefore i am selfishly hoarding my disdain and animus for the dnc. at a certain point it’s not about hillary it’s about the fact that the dnc leadership stole votes from citizens of this country and must be held accountable. it sucks because i live in washington state and we have a very ugly gubenatorial race going on between a rethuglican dirtbag and a pretty wonderful democrat (who endorsed bo) i would love to hold out my vote on this one as i will for the presidential race but the stakes in our state are too high. even though i no longer consider myself a democrat i’m still trying to figure out where to lend my civic volunteer hours and monetary donations. so far the humane society has been the beneficiary of my excess dollars which would have gone to the dnc this election cycle. what’s everyone else doing? i’m also taking up golf……………..
on July 6th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I believe, because senator obama is “vaginally challenged” (the pc term for it), he has one great hurdle he has to overcome before general election.
I would urge the senator to have this defficiency corrected as quickly as possible, if he wishes to be competitive in the General election. There are numerous clinics around the country that can perform this simple procedure, and as a necessary procedure it could be tax deductible for the amount that it exceedes 81/2% of his adjusted gross income.
Come on Senator since all your recent flipflops prove you are testicularly challenged(being pc again can you believe it), why not…
the first african american transgendered presidential candidate….thats real change we can see with our own two eyes!
fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
coachkitty, love the spca and humane society….idea also habitat for humanity is a good cause instead of the dnc.
fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
These pumps are made for walkin’ and that’s just what they’ll do. Cause one of the these days (August 27, 2008 ) these pumps are gonna walk all over you.
on July 6th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I’m on it. I love the spca too they are amazing people. I’m happy to give them money and I wish i was strong enough to do their work but it’s too soul punishing for a wimp like me. Thank goodness for them though.
did i mention how much i can’t stand donna brazile?
on July 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
coachkitty donna is a sad case… she has not picked a winning dem cndidate since 1976-this may be her last grasp at power.
fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
“Hope is a good breakfast, but it is a bad supper.” –Francis Bacon, english philosopher
Well, francis, PUMAs are going to make mincemeat of the presumptuous nominee and serve it up as pie at the convention. And we can each have our own whole pie–not the scraps MO suggests we must be happy with!
on July 6th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Fuzzy,one can only hope she packs it up after this fiasco but somehow i doubt it. She really did a bang up job for Gore in 2000. couldn’t even deliver his home friggin state.
One more thing, I am knee deep in Seattle hipster fratbag territory i mean deeeeeeeep in the eye of the storm. But last sun at Gay Pride I was surprised at the level of Obamania. What has he done for the gay community lately or for that matter, ever? Am i missing something here? i did find one precious young gay guy who is a PUMA though! Yay! Anyhoo, does HRC(not hillary but the human rights council or whatever it’s called) rate candidates? I’d like to know what they have to say although I find them to be slightly disingenuous to begin with. From what i can tell he’s no friend to women and I doubt he has any allegiance or love for the gay community. He can’t even bother to march in their parade……………He couold have sent Donnie McGurkin or whatever his name is in his place:)
on July 6th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
hrc-is not enthused by obama gave him $ 0.00 in the primary gay support is down for nobama
fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
coachkitty,
Are you living in Seattle or just visiting? We’ve got lots o’ PUMA activity. visit 18 million voices meet up - WA for hillary. Join us this monday.
on July 6th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Fuzzybear: I knew it. He is faking gay support. I warned my brother on that but he still drank the kool aide. O wrote that flowery letter to the gay community, but refused to have his photo taken with Gavin N. It’s been double talk all along with interviews on the subject. His last statement…I don’t approve of gay marriage but support strong civil unions???
on July 6th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I live in seattle. You too?
on July 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I was at the first meeting on QA I just am very skeptical of hillary getting on the ticket. i’m kind of saving my ire for the dnc. are you guys meeting on phinney ridge again?
on July 6th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
flowerchild2-
this i from a post I did awhile bacck feel free to share it with your brother:
(notice I wrote this on 3/24)
03/24 A gay obama supporter friend asked me why the gay community should support Hillary Clinton and I have answer which I would like to share with you all: The Clintons have made our issues their issues and for the first time in history candidate Bill Clinton said there is a place for you in my administration and he backed those words with action by appointing over 200 openly gay and lesbian citizens to his administration.
He had first gay person as ambassador to Luxembourg (Luxembourg also had the first African American woman ambassador) and appointed us to the federal courts. President Clinton took hits for us and expended political capital on us. Even when he lost the gays in the military vote he still made a place at the table for us.
Hillary will do no less - she led the fight to stop the anti-gay marriage amendment to the constitution. She has openly gay and lesbian advisors working on issues of gay youth.
Obama? What has he done for us in the last year? I am betting on the person that has a proven track record for us. Not someone who’s only acknowledgement of us was in an elegantly written keynote speech “…and we have some gay friends in red states”…duh- I live in republican Florida! While he is a charismatic speaker, he has missed 144 votes in the senate and actually voted incorrectly on over a dozen occasions -maybe he will accidentally veto ENDA in error? Because it is politically expedient.
On being a Uniter: Being a uniter is a good thing, but there are sometimes when you have to have the moral courage and fiber to be a divider of the house. There are occasions when you will have no common ground, where you are right and the opponent is wrong, you must stand your ground, where no compromise is acceptable. You have to be ready for that moment and you have to draw your line in the sand and say I cannot abide on this we must part ways. I do not see that in Barak Obama he will fail when that time comes.
fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I posted that on HC.com sorry- fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Thanks fuzzybear: I will try to work that in to an e-mail to him. We currently have a divide; he can’t stand my e-mails that contain anti-O truths. It hurts his ears.
on July 6th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Yes, we’re meeting but place has changed — the zoo. Take a look at the meetup site. Also we’re getting ready for MO’s visit.
on July 6th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Evening hireheels crew… ooohhh… i just heard a very tantalizing tidbit from one our peeps who’s way in the know… seems like shifty has given the shaft to way too many promises and the super d’s are starting to question his viability or electability for that matter… Eight have declared their independence from the Kool-aid over this past weekend and have gone our gal’s way!!! Pass it on.
on July 6th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
thanks all for the warm fuzzy welcome.
SistaChristianLouboutin, I can only pray you are correct.
People seem to be getting depressed and complacent, so we can really use some good news.
on July 6th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
wow thats awsome news SistaChristianLoubou. looks like mabey some of the super Ds are going tru koolaid remorse
go hillary
go pumas
on July 6th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
yes josg and boogiewoogie— it is true. it’s important that this news makes it to our other friends in the blogosphere. remember we are dealing with a secret ballot— so there may even be more super d’s that haven’t let anyone know what they’re thinking. so let’s encourage them!!!
on July 6th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
using my analogy a super-D switch is a 4 point shot-and a real game winner-
fuzzybeargville
on July 6th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
wow, great news.
on July 6th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
If this is true, then the tide is turning. And you know what happens, then. Do you happen to know how influential these SDs are? Is your source able to say that this is completely true?
on July 6th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Maybe the switch is in so that there’s time for hill to make a comeback and campaign effectively against McCain.
on July 7th, 2008 at 12:02 am
i received my information from a serious and trusted source. get out your charts woodhull. it’s up to us to keep this ship on course.
on July 7th, 2008 at 12:37 am
This is great news sista! Now I have to recalibrate my mind upon speaking to other people regarding this possibility. Keep our hands together and keep the faith, God will not allow this nation to fall in the wrong hands as long as we believed.
on July 7th, 2008 at 1:55 am
I just want to share this with you all. Glenn Beck say it all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvM3XX6Q4I&feature=related
on July 7th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Now the fraud is dying his hair gray to seem older.
Anything for votes.
on July 7th, 2008 at 6:49 am
Hi everyone! I’m a disillusioned conservative that is planning to hold my nose when i vote for mccain this fall, but no matter who gets elected, it will be someone left of center, so you should all be happy about that. Having said that, I hope, and I pray, that Hillary can get back in this thing. I don’t like her politics or politics of the dem party in general (and i’m beginning to dislike the unprincipled republican “neocon” milquetoast wussies just as much), but I know I will be able to sleep at night with her in charge, unlike if Obama was the POTUS. I can live with either Mccain or clinton as president, but I don’t think this nation could survive having such a blatant marxist like obama in charge. and make no mistake, he is a blatant marxist. his “mainstream media” propaganda machine won’t report that, but even a cursory study of obama makes that obvious. both parties are moving towards socialism, and i think that’s unhealthy for this republic, but i’d rather be ruled over by a socialist like hillary or mccain than a militant black communist like obama, which is essentially what “black liberation theology” is all about. There is a groundswell of opposition to obama coming from many different angles, and i hope enough people will wake up by november. i’d be thrilled to vote for a black man or woman for prez, but i will not vote for a comitted communist with an angry, hate filled wife that hates this nation. I am currently sending donations whenever i can to ltc. allen west in florida as he runs for a congressional seat this fall. he is a black conservative badass, and a man who gets it, unlike that lying shapeshifter obama.aside from all that, i’ve always had a crush on hillary anyway, and wouldn’t mind seeing such a cute babe win the white house for once. A lot of women liked bill because they thought he was “cute,” well, I think Hillary is, and if she wins, meh, i can think of worse things that could happen (like an obama presidency). also, in her own way, i think hillary would be a foreign policy badgirl and would have the mullahs quaking in their sandals. i don’t think she would play games when it comes to responding to anything militarily, and i also believe she would give us a responsible withdrawal from iraq, unlike the manchurian muslim, obama. so rock on everyone, and hopefully when this nation elects a minority as president, it will be someone we can trust and someone who deserves our collective respect, unlike this enemy within, Obama. there are soooo many things wrong with obama. it hs nothing whatsoever to do with his skin, and everything to do with his shady past, his shady beliefs, and his attempt to be a chamelion on every issue. the man is dangerous..
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:09 am
btw, as a follow up, i’m constantly arguing with fellow conservatives about this election. they say we should hope for an obama presidency which will cause the republocrats to shift back to the right and become republicans again, such as after jimmy carter’s disastrous presidency, but they are delusional. my fear is that obama is so extreme and so greased through the chicago political machine, and so protected and sheltered by the media, that i believe that life as we know it will end under an obama presidency. i tell my conservative buddies to have fun moving out to the wilderness, cooking beans over a fire, and talking about how great their little conservative clique is while america falls apart around them during an obama presidency. i also believe that if hillary somehow wrests the nomination away from obama, we are going to see major civil unrest throughout this nation, so be prepared for that if it happens, but civil unrest is far preferable to civil war, which is what i think an obama presidency will lead to.
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Well look how the worm begins to turn Glen Beck defending Hillary? Sorry Bozo where wer you when it counted right beside the bashers holding Keith Obermanns hand handing him his meds.
Glen if you play real nice between now and november the president clinton may send you a cookie.
when hillary secures the nomination in denver-since it appears enough SD are waking up to the fact tha BHO is not “the one”, she must not be forced to take bho as a running mate that would be a nightmare. the reason he “is not likeable enough anymore.”
Maybe she could convince colin powell to come out of retirement and take the VP slot -he s truely loved by all americans and this would be a good slap in the face to ol’ “w” for feeding him false info on wmd in iraq-like he did to the congress.
fuzzybeargville
morning all
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:18 am
dang my comment disappeared-should copy befor I send
fuzzybeargville
on July 7th, 2008 at 8:07 am
fuzzy - i’m having trouble on my end….loaded with “trojans” it seems….and i’m not talkin’ condoms!!!!!
on July 7th, 2008 at 9:38 am
sista–that’s great news!–this nomination isn’t over yet. o is only our presumptive nominee because some unnamed sds dragged his battered carcass across the finish line. if enough people are get off of the hopium and realize that hillary is the best choice, public opinion will shift in her favor, and the sd’s will follow (pant)suit.
on July 7th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Sista -
I just carried your news regarding 8 SD switch over to the PUMAPAC blog where I am a regular member and blogger. Of course the cheers can be heard around the world from us.
We are, however, trying to be cautious to not become overly excited before we can be sure that there is something to celebrate.
Can you PLEASE help me with way to verify?
You can’t imagine how much we want this to be true.
A BIG PUMA thank you.
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:21 am
puma—a: the source that told me is very much in the know, but even with those 8 we have a long ways to go!! as I stated previously, convention ballots are in secret, which is why delegates are “pledged.” all i can say is i trust this person to give us true information. they asked that we get the word out, not so much to celebrate– although it is joyful news, but it is even more important that super d’s know that others are feeling comfortable switching their allegiance due to recent policy gaffes by Senator Obama. so it’s up to us to virally put the news out there. even if you only feel comfortable saying, “i just heard a fab rumor!! super d’s are switching— 8 did this weekend…”
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Thank you Sista - I will post on our site.
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I have a source that says that one of the sd with an std who switched was considering re-switching his previous switch because he heard there is a movement afoot to get all the switchers to res-switch…and if we can only get 300 of them to do that by August we can get our gal back on top where she belongs….
HAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Oh my, you people are piece of work!
I try to be nice but then I read this crap and can’t help laugh my as* off. HRC lost then, is still losing, and will continue to have lost even past the convention.
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am
don’t feed the troll.
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am
morning piper, i hope you had a good 4th!
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Good morning.
You know what, I’m celebrating, even if it’s a totally baseless rumor.
I’ll take a hopeful rumor over evidence of gross incompetence any day.
Millions of people like me HOPE the SD’s wake up and CHANGE their minds before its too late.
Spread the word!
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:22 am
piper have you some spare billy goats? i sense that our troll might have returned from his his little vaca under the bridge…
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:32 am
gross incompetence? I take it you must be talking about W Bush, the one who has been in charge for the past 8 years, and not the chosen one, who has yet to spend a day in the white house?
I wouldn’t say millions, I’ll give you a few thousand…
on July 7th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
tbone, what a funny name for a republican.
heh, heh.
really, you guys can do better than that, can’t you?
now listen closely, gross incompetence is when somebody “wins” the nomination and has so much trouble getting his own party to rally ’round him he has to twist his vanquished opponent’s arm to entreat her supporters to switch allegiance.
gross incompetence is even more obvious when those supporters say “no.”
Let’s face it, this guy’s only claim to fame is that he’s the losing Dem’s revenge (Kennedy, Kerry, Dean).
Chosen one.
Thta’s a hoot.
on July 7th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
sometimes when i look back at this DEM election i it more like the twilight zone ar mabey an alternate universe. i mean just think the DNC & leading dems & the mainstream media where atacking hillary & the only & REPS where defending her. the & i mean just think of it. its almost crazy fox news was defending her. rush ,hannity even on the show the veiw the only one that defended her was hasselbeck the sole REP on the show.
power to the pumas
on July 7th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
boogieman7167–agreed. one of the most distressing things about the primary was how these so-called progressives smeared Hillary, especially when they used recycled, debunked ’90s Rethuglican talking points to do it.
hey sista, that’s a fabulous press release that you wrote this morning about the Texas Fraud Caucus Hearings. Your leg might be broken, but your spirit sure isn’t!
on July 7th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
sometimes, when I look back I laugh my as* off so hard, I almost tinkle. i mean just think. Dean, O & the DNC (including all of the Hillary supporters on the rules committee) managed to “steal” the nomination. Oh I know she was “entitled” to the presidency b/c she was “clinton” and managed to hold the second highest office in the land, the “first lady”. I mean just think of it. where does this black guy come off “stealing” the nomination from her rightful coronation to the throne. its just so crazy, sometimes I cry….boo hoo….
funny how you weren’t so upset when hrc was willing to offer him the no. 2 spot, huh?
on July 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Oh our sweet and tasty t-bone, we weren’t happy about Obama taking #2 either, but thought perhaps he might glean some necessary experience in that job. Maybe he’d even show up for work for a “change…”
on July 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
P.S. t-bone do you think you could ask your peeps to stop hacking our site? we can’t exchange love notes if we can’t communicate. ty.
— scl
on July 7th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
t-bone you small and insignificant ant when you join the winning team?
I think it is time to stop the courting the lovely ladies and get on the puma bus. you know you want to kiss and make up and support hillary-we only need about 175 to switch.
Lets face it there really is no difference between Senator Obama and senator McCain on any of their positions so what is the dif if someone votes McCain instead of Obama? we are basically voting for the same person.
come on t-bone try hillary for a change. you no you really want her to win your the type of guy who loves a woman on top!
fuzzybeargville
on July 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
sometime when i look back the DEM primarys has been more like the twilight zone or mabey an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE i mean think of its the DNC & dem leaders & the mainstream media where atacking hillary & the only the ones that where defending the clintons where REPs . its almost crazy . fox news . hannity & rush . even on msnbc . porning joe,( bye the way i love that play on words you came up with princess)& Pat Buchanan the REPs on the show where the ones that stuck up for hillary . even on the show the view Elisabeth Hasselbeck the sole REP on that show defended hillary
go hillary
go pumas
on July 7th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Thomas Sowell wrote in “An Old Newness” about the differece between winning honorable and winning through a technicality. Obama’s technical wins are legend and very much admired by his followers because of his “shrewdness.” Most small ‘d’ Americans would much rather see someone, themsevles included, win on the merits of their personal best, not win because they outsmarted (as in “smarty pants”) their rival. If a world-class runner won the gold because their primary competitor suffered a twisted ankle at the starting block, would we be satisfied to consider him or her the best in the world? probably not. We’d want to see these two people run the race on their best days. And so would the runner who ran the race. Because that person would also know that that sort of win is hollow and meaningless. Only a wannebe with a slim resume and a history of running races without real competition or the one who uses highly questionable technical tactics to secure an advatage would be happy with that kind of “win.”
So to say that barack obama “won” and “neener, neener, neener,” shows stunted maturity and an overwhelming lack of moral conscience. If nothing else, it’s not the way Americans in a democracy count their wins.
For more on this see Thomas Sowell’s essays at townhall.com
on July 7th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
yea piper i know they where always ripping the 90s i mean i wish we go go back there what part din,t they like mabey it was the peace or prosperity hmmm lets see no national debt. jobs plentifull . Economy better than it had ever been , .they were always ripping the the last time the clintons where in the white house..
go pumas
go hillary
on July 7th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
just like there was no difference between Bush & Gore? Get off the crack, michael. you know how different things would be if Gore was the man. Instead we got W, who has gone ape sh*t the past 8 years and tried to put us on a path to annihilation. Now instead of anything positive Bill did with the economy, it has gone to hell in a handbasket. Now my 5 year old is going to be paying off for his dumbsh*t mistakes while his kids are throwing shwanky weddings and posing with guns. Don’t say there isn’t any difference. It is shameful what this group is trying to pull off. There is nothing but innuendo and rumor mongering on this site just b/c she lost.
SHE LOST. She ran a crappy campaign and got terrible campaign advice. Don’t blame advice for her being a terrible campaign manager.
Obama is going to win. SO dont get on the bandwagon when he does because we don’t need backstabbers like you.
absolutely the lowest of the low. how can you claim to support someone and then turn your back on them? but thats the difference between us, right?
on July 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Lynn, your kind of scaring me…
on July 7th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
T-bone (that name craks me up!) even if Obama won (please, no) his victory would be as hollow as his resume.
The fact that so many people refuse to see it says more about the wisdom of P.T. Barnum than it does about the quality of the candidate.
on July 7th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
i was just wondering tbone why did you vote for pancakeman.
& please give me something more that that hope & change BS
on July 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
hey everyone josgirl came up with the idea for an offical puma shoe.
how abought we do the same for the golden child
my idea .concrete boots .then hand pancake man over to, tony soprano & his boys & let them do the rest.
on July 7th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
boogie.
I’m tired of loss after loss after loss. We’ve (us democrats) come so close only to see it get away. And that is discouraging.
I honestly believe if Gore would have been president, the discourse and discussions that we are having about the environment would be so much better informed now, instead of starting from scratch once a democrat is elected. That is eight years that have been pissed down the drain. Nader was able to pull votes b/c he (with Gore’s help) convinced enough folks that there was no real difference between Gore & Bush. After 8 years, I believe that assumption has been proven wrong time and again.
I, on the other hand, don’t believe that hope & change is “bs”. Obama has consistently delivered some of the best political speeches I have ever heard in my life and that is inspiring. Bush on the other hand has books made out his stupid comments and if its something important, like torture, no one in his administration can remember anything at all or can conveniently delete everything without consequence.
So I do have hope that O can change things. Is he gonna do everything perfectly? No. But the differences between O & HRC are not that different.
This election was not handed to him. Just like HRC faced sexism, being a black candidate was not a bowl of cherries (see W. Virginia & Kentucky, Texas).
So if you want to see the policies I support, just look at hrc because they aren’t that different from Os.
If hrc came to you in person and asked you to vote for O, would you tell her that you can’t because:
“His racist wife that looks just like a bull dog in the face” or that
“Soros, Hamas,The DNC,the Palastian groups, even Kim Jong ill, Khadify,Castro, and Farrakhan, so many of these terrorist Jihadi Islam, communist groups support Obama”
or
“Obama is a bore in every way not to mention such a liar and disgrace to America”
I don’t find him boring or a disgrace. He is more up front and honest with folks than he gets credit for on this page.
We finally have a person of color, accepting the democratic nomination for president of the united states on the anniversary of the day MLK gave his I have a dream speech. As a person of color, this is the promised land.
Hillary asked for your support. She is your gal and you ought to support her through think and thin.
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
boogieman,
How funny and I cound not agree more.
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
T-Bone, I love Hillary but I would not even vote for Obama if she came and ask me and I am from Little Rock, Arkansas and I know her and have been at Chelsea’s dance recitals back years ago. I would not vote for Obama even if he chose her as VP. He is way too scary and being a Democrat is not important to me but my country and my family sure is. I have told you why I would not vote for him all except I forgot to say he hangs around with “racist” preachers and has no experience.
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
you know her huh? give her my regards…
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
tbone, please don’t try to spread that sybolic “person of color” crap anywhere near me.
I am a person of color, in fact i am black.
I find this whole schmaltzy (yeah, i said that) happy crappy about obama’s skin color to be highly offensive.
you know what they call it when a person of color is elevated to a position of prominence primarily on the basis of pigmentation?
Tokenism.
That’s one of the saddest legacies of the Kennedy administration.
That’s why during said administration the prominent civil rights leaders of the day came together in one of the largest peaceful protest demonstrations ever held and demanded that the government “honor it’s bad check to the negro (black america).”
That check was not honored in JFK’s lifetime.
LBJ “got the job done.”
The man who made the demand?
Martin Luther King in the first part of his “I have a dream” speech.
So i am not interested in honoring the symbolism of MLK’s legacy, i am more concerned with whether the content of his character indicates that he can “get the job done.”
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I will do that Tbone - I do know her, Bill Clinton was our governor for 12 years and I have always lived here in Arkansas and yes I am not her best friend but I do know her and I totally support the Clintons, all but any support they have for Obama which is totally forced. I have wished along with many of their other supporters here that they would just leave the Democrat Party and become Independents but they never will do that.
I myself have registed now as an Independent and will be voting for John McCain if Hillary does not become the nominee but I believe she will.
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
jos, boogie and I were conversating…
but since you felt the need to butt in…how is it tokenism when he won & she lost. I just think its a significant thing in our society that we actually have choices other than white guy when we go vote now.
I guess you preferred it better when everyone knew their place, huh?
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Because he didn’t win.
And if everybody knew their place, you wouldn’t be here.
And, if you want to have a private conversation, pick up a phone.
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
gee, last time I looked O was out touring the country as the democratic nominee. I must have missed something. nope, i just checked again.
you mean to say, that as a person of color, your not just a little eensy teensy weensy bit happy, jumping up and down - screaming at the top of your lungs happy, that our choices for president now legitimately include people of all races and gender. O won based on the content of his character just like Hillary lost on hers.
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
TBone, sorry I butted in on your conversation but as josgirl said if you want a private chat, go call the other obots you know. This is a public forum. It appears that our choice did not include a woman so I would not include gender in that but yes our choice has always been for the person who is experienced, knowledgeable with integrity and character and Obama fits none of those categories. I don’t care if he’s purple he’s an unfit candidate for president and even senator.
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
tbone
let me get this straight you voted for him beacuse he give good political speeches that somebody else wrote for him,
policy wise pal i guess you havent been whatching the news . but hes been doing a 360 on just abought every policy he promised during the primary. . & also you dont find him boreing.& hes black.. ?
please correct me if im wrong ?
GO PUMAS
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
boogie u got it…I thought I was gonna have to speak slower or something…
you = backstabber
me= not a backstabber
lynn i don’t know why your bothering with me when you could be chatting with your gal.
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
mr t-bone i give me something solid .
dont take this the wrong way tbone bit i think your buying into his speaches to much. there must have been solid like his views on a issue.
puma power
go hillary
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
tbone,
to answer your question, no.
there is no part of me, of any size that is the least bit happy with the selection (not election) of the presumptuous nominee of the Democratic party.
I am outraged.
But then, blatant bs and manipulation by white people (or any other color people) at the expense of black people always brings that out in me.
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Evening hireheels crew… ooohhh… i just heard a very tantalizing tidbit from one our peeps who’s way in the know… seems like shifty has given the shaft to way too many promises and the super d’s are starting to question his viability or electability for that matter… Eight have declared their independence from the Kool-aid over this past weekend and have gone our gal’s way!!! Pass it on….
okay, I have been out of electronic commission since Thursday… Dare I hope that the worst democratic candidate for president in my lifetime might actually lose the nomination? Could the sd’s who were bamboozled, wined and dined and flirted with actually come to their senses?
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
oops forgot the quotes again - but you get it.
love the WSJ article… did read that this AM.
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
tbone why dont you leave the darkside & see abought looking into becomeing a puma .
just think of it you could be the 1st O-PUMA
go hillary
puma power
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
tbone why dont you leave the darkside & see abought looking into becomeing a puma .
just think of it you could be the 1st O-PUMA
go hillary
puma power
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
thanks for the offer boogie but i don’t like to hang with bitter people, its too depressing.
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
oh yea im just one of those typical white people ,
so if you dont whant to hang with us . why are you here.
im sure your pancakeboy has a good spot set up fot you in obama-nation
tbone
puma power Grrrrrrrrr
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
oh yea im just one of those typical white people ,
so if you dont whant to hang with us . why are you here.
im sure your pancakeboy has a good spot set up fot you in obama-nation
tbone
puma power Grrrrrrrrr
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I’m just curious to see how many ways people can justify being a backstabber. I’m very impressed so far…
on July 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
a backstabber ?
watch out the whatever reason you voted for the golden child . hes the one that gona stab u in the back.
if he already hasen,t
go hillary
on July 7th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Night folks…see you tomorrow. I thought I would leave with a few inspiring words from your leader…
“So I want to say to my supporters: When you hear people saying or think to yourself, “If only, or, “What if,” I say, please, don’t go there. Every moment wasted looking back keeps us from moving forward.”
remember -
backward=backstabber
on July 7th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
so how about an old-fashioned press release by Puma and Will…. the AP and everyone will carry it. …. need a little cash, but not a lot. ???
on July 7th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Sounds like you are much bitter than us. Your attemp to dessuade the ladies here is qualified as a failure!
All I understand is that the Internet troll exists by the grace of those who give him a voice; without that, he is nothing.
Now my own quote in response to your T-bone….
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing..”
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
tbone -I notice you never have come up with any defense of your candidate, why does he deserve my vote, pretty speeches, hope make a fine breakfast but a lousy dinner, change-the mr obama brought to the level of primary discourse was to send us back to the days of tammany hall.
Obama is nothing but what the media created he stands for nothing but what he believes the people around him want to hear. The last words you quoted were stellar he is telling each and every one you to not think for yourself for those who have put words in my mouth are thinking for you.
mostly he is telling you t-bone, that we don’t believe you should be trusted with your own thought or ideas no take mine and supress your on ideas. your thoughts are so below mine(and my speech writers) that you cannot begin to comprehend them.
t-bone read george orwell’s 1984 and specially the appendix on the principles of “newspeak” . obama has read the principles of newspeak and the principle of ingsoc. you are living proof that they work on the dim and gullible. if you want to look at what america will be like under obama look at the land of oceania in orwells book that is the change and hope obama brings.
fuzzybeargville
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
tbone if you still there
if the only reason you voted for him
are the things you said
i almost feel bad for you(keyword) feel
go pumas
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Check the video on this site and make sure you turn off the media player in the buttom prior to clicking the video.
http://hcsfjm.com/
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
hey guys….princess here with a scintillating rumor…..(t-bone may need a cocktail after this one)…..
i have unconfirmed reports that over the holiday weekend …. hillary raked in 4-6million….that is just a rumor — as SOon as we know something, we will release….
if this is true - that speaks volumes for the puma online fundraising effort…..
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
also….there were a few (shhhhhhh) delegates on our conference call last night - ‘listening’ in….they wanted to hear for themselves….
how delish…princess loves spies…especially of the bond variety….
on July 7th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
hireheels were they spies or fellow travelers? I think support for obama was always soft if dean has a bad case of any illness then there will be alot of them heading for the door…
ed rendell will probably be leading the way with all the h.o.u.n.d.s
fuzzybeargville
fuzzybeargville
on July 7th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
i havent hurd much from that counter site h. o u n d s.
dose it even exist anymore? princess
puma power
on July 7th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
boogiewoogie: sista cannot find anything listed anymore. His original credo has been taken down from the PA Dem Party’s site, which is where it was originally listed…
I guess hound is in the dog house…
on July 7th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
dean was probley to cheap to pay for the site.
on July 7th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
dean’s more than too cheap— he’s broke… BO apparently is bailing him out… did you see this horror.
https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/openconvention1?source=20080707_OC1_ND_A
Apparently the Convention is no longer a political event that decides our nation’s future— but an “american idol-style” rock concert. along with a sweepstakes… read and weep.
on July 7th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
its only fitting the DNC ran this election like it was american -idol & obama is Sanjaya the only way both these guys could stay in the game so long is that it was probley rigged . both of them are faked thier way in.
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I just have to say “thank you” for being here … and doing all that you are doing. …. (the graphics and writing are great too!)
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
that is sad $5.00 for a chance to get up on stage with “the one” in a PUMA T-Shirt? mmmmm
fuzzybeargville
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
yea $ 5 for a chance to see the goldenboy. ud think they whould charge more. lol
go pumas
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
hey that whould be cool in a puma t-shirt..
power of the puma
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
OK hh peeps. we need to dial for dollars. apparently we did very well this past weekend with our fund-raising drive.
we still need more to expunge every last penny of hill’s debt. dean and bo are knocking at her door. she has until 7/15 to raise the funds; if not the cronies are going to shut her down. what do you think about turning bo’s fund-raiser sweepstakes on it’s head? what about it hill crew… we’ll need about a million of those 18 million folks to donate $5. that could be our million women march (cool dudes invited as well as always). viral fund-raising on one day… in the time it takes 1 million people to walk 1 mile… i know the logistics are probably nuts on this, but what do you think? anybody willing to think out of the shoebox with me?
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
SistaChristianLouboutin, how can they shut her down before the convention?
Shouldn’t somebody be yelling about this?
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
of course we should, but did yelling about anything else work? we just have to make it happen…
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
boogieman7167 said,
on July 7th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
yea $ 5 for a chance to see the goldenboy. ud think they whould charge more. lol
$5.00?, Boggie? No, I would rather use mine toward a gallon of gas.
Sista: yes, I am in. Sending Hillary another donation in the AM. Too tired to pull out the CC right now.
Sweet dreams everyone!!
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
yea how can they shut her down ??
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
ty boogiewoogie. sweet dreams to all of my fave shoes too!
on July 7th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Sounds uncontitutional to me. Doesn’t Dean understand that farther oppression will lead to more resentment. Surely this is meant to shut us down, however there is this old man across bridge that would be very delighted to see us all cross it. Our vote still count no matter what they will do. We need to get this rolling ASAP if we are going to help our cause and HRC.
on July 8th, 2008 at 1:11 am
T-bonehead:
You are slacking off again bra, everything that comes out of your post despite of the unuttered motive and reason reveals it. Your reasoning behind your choosing of obama are every bit of everything we stand against on this collation but, ya we are a bunch of backstabber.
1.) the Democratic party must win despite of the consequences revealed in front of you? Never mind country and everything we uphold as long obama win is what you’re saying.
There is no “we” in this for us, becauase we don’t want him and his radical views along with the remainder that controls him…for a moment. We “us” don’t fight monster to become monster like you. We fight to uphold our values and belief that moral behaviors are the best way of the course for justice to be served.
2.) Colors?
When is that the distinction for this level of requirement in the mind of many? I can honestly say, that Gen. Collin Powell would make an excellent choice to lead this country. Hell Bill cosby would have make a better president than obama. Are you blind? The funny thing is that you are contradicting yourself by not saying it out loud. Just say you want a black president so that your hope and change will materialize as if it was all intangible to begin with with all the success story of all the afro-american on this country. You guys are so full of shit! Just look at how many people are coming out of the wood work lately and yet you justify this as Audacity of change, for whom?
3.)I’m just curious to see how many ways people can justify being a backstabber.
For our country? call it what you like. In the end, we will remained loyal to our country first and that is one of the top requirement among many other duty that she may required of her citizens. America is not for sale T-Bone nor should you give it to harms way if you are proud and love this country.
on July 8th, 2008 at 6:49 am
I have asked the confluence members to meet at 6 pm today to discuss ideas for reducing the debt. At the most current thread….hope we get good idea’s today evryone seems ready to do this one more time for our girl….good morning everyone
hireheels everyone wants to know were the SD’s on the conf call obama or clinton or “undesided” supers?
fuzzybeargville
fuzzybeargville
on July 8th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Good morning Sista & all: Just contributed to Hillary’s debt, and I also sent out an e-mail to all my friends with the link, Republicans too who will vote for Hillary in the general. I also just posted the link with message on Greta wire, both threads - - many, many, Hill supporters on there. Any other suggestions let me know.
on July 8th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Good AM, Sista & everyone. I just made my contribution to retire the debt, and sent an e-mail to all my friends on my mail list - that covers No, So. E. & W.
Also posted on 2 threads of Greta wire; lot of Hillary supporters post on Greta. Clarify please - what is involved in shutting her down??
on July 8th, 2008 at 9:52 am
so, now that we know you all support mccain - how do you feel about mccain’s campaign using the secret service to eject a 61 year old female librarian from a 7 July 2008 republican town hall meeting in Denver - for carrying a sign saying McCain=Bush?
If it’s a republican meeting, what’s wrong with equating mccain, the GOP candidate, with the current sitting gop president, who was the darling of the gop? why is this 61 year old woman now facing a court date?
where is her free speech?
obama may suck, but mccain is just as bad.
on July 8th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Imagine, for one moment, that it had been Barack Obama instead of John McCain who had cheated on his wife by having multiple affairs. Suppose it was Barack Obama who had married his mistress, a younger heiress of a billion dollar beer empire only a month after the ink was dry on the divorce papers. Pretend it was Michelle Obama instead of Cindy McCain who had been so addicted to painkillers that she stole money from her own charity and had been investigated by the Drug Enforcement Administration.
The vilifications, smears, and berating from conservatives would be louder than a 747 takeoff. The castigating and crucifixions by the Limbaughs and O’Reillys and Puma’s of the world would never end. Faux piety and bellicosity from the pumped up blowhards in the religious right would flow harder than the flooding waters of the Mississippi.
on July 8th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Welcome back jzg: we allow supporters of all candidates (or no candidates) to comment on hireheels.com unless their posts contain hateful language, abuse or profanity. We believe in democracy here.
HireHeels has not endorsed senator mccain, so don’t make sweeping statements like, “so, now that we know you all support mccain…” without your facts. Thank you and carry on.
on July 8th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Rey,
“We “us” don’t fight monster to become monster like you.”
what the hell does that even mean? I can’t even argue with you, I don’t know what you are taking about.
Justz - these folks are wacky on the junk…and don’t understand that being a friend means sticking by someone in good times and bad.
don’t turn your back on them…
on July 8th, 2008 at 10:10 am
sista…you and I must be reading different posts girlfriend. there are some scary-as* racist people on here…and it ain’t me.
on July 8th, 2008 at 10:18 am
you’re right, sista, hh hasn’t endorsed mmccain, and I apologize - it’s merely most of your non-headlining commentors who have said mccain in 08, specifically to slap the dnc like your candidate was slapped.
however, whatever the letter of your words here (the headliners), the tone of most of the people who comment is that the only good current front runner for hrc supporters to vote for is mccain.
while _you_ may not have ever intended your site to be a mccain support group, look at many of the comments, and tell me - would an impartial observer think the undercurrent is “support mcain”?
tbone - i already know who to trust and not to trust - because, according to a few of the non-headliners who shout the loudest, anyone who comments against mccain is obviously a paid obama supporter.
i’m surprised a number of the hrc supporters who have said, here, that they don’t trust mccain either, haven’t gotten called paid obama bots.
being a friend may mean sticking by someone in good and bad, but being a good friend means telling your friend “man, you screwed up,” and helping them get fixed.
I turn my back on no one, t-bone - i’ve seen how rey treats people with legitimate questions - denigrating them, using diminutives (little boy, young man etc, kind of sounds like sweetie in my book).
on July 8th, 2008 at 10:39 am
We did lift some nasty comments by a mccain supporter off the blog yesterday jzg. and we don’t purge spirited comments from you or our little steak either– sometimes arguments get a tad petty, but you both saw from the get-go that we are pro hillary (as it says so on the front page)… so natch the territory would not be easy terrain to traverse for you. and compared to the extremely hateful comments and attacks that princess and I have personally received on other blogs (ones that we haven’t even visited to stir pots on btw), i think you and the rest of the bo supporters have been treated quite decently. You should see what your cowardly bo peeps email us privately— I’m too much of a lady to utter such filth.
enough with this administrative folderol, enjoy the debate and your day my hireheels crew.
on July 8th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Boys, boys, boys…calm down.Yes, a lot of us will vote for McCain if the DNC continues its merry romp to totalitarianism, however, that doesn’t mean that he is our favored candidate, just the lesser of the evils.
Now, when you start carrying on about all the bad McCain issues, let’ just say, to be nice, that you have your head someplace it shouldn’t anatomically be. Please remove it before you operate heavy equipment, No proof of JM calling his wife the bad word, no proof of the numerous affairs, no proof of theft from the charity.
On the other hand, lots of proof of black racism, lots of proof of do-nothing politicking in Illinois, lots of proof of ties to communism, lots of proof of ties to domestic terrorism, lots of proof of ties to shady, backroom money dealers in Chicago. Lots of comments amounting to threats of violence in the streets if HRC got the nomination, and all kinds of rumors about deaths, and drugs, and gay liasons ( personally never minded them), and a lot of shady campaigning, voter fraud, fundraising fraud, caucus intimidation, and the outright theft of votes from Florida and Michigan,
I won’t even mention the MSM in this, they were. and are. on their own, don’t think he bought them, don’t think he had to.
Lastly, let’s actually look at what the uniter is doing to race relations in the USA. 90% of black Americans voting in the Dem. primaries, voted for BO, because of hope and change? Because of his outstanding record of helping his Chicago district? Because of all his work in the U,S. Senate? Because of his policies (stolen about a week after HRC would announce them)? No, they voted for him because he is black. Race was the defining reason, nothing else mattered. Not that they were women, not that they were workers, not that they had young chidren benifitting from all of HRC’s hard work. Just because he is black. So, they said to the world, “nothing else matters” Then what can we have in common? If we can’t understand the black religious experience because we are white, and we can’t understand what BO is all about because we are white, then how can he govern a country that is only !6% black? Either we all have alot more in common, and this was BS, or we have nothing in common and he can’t possibly be the Pres.. Make up your mind.
This is long, so I will cut to the chase. There are a whole lot of reasons to dislike BO and to distrust BO, and not nearly so many for John McCain. I will always resent him for making me accept Fox News as fair and balanced. I will always resent him for taking my Dem. party and making it the antithesis of what it was.That was Shirley Chisholm’s party, and Barbara Jordan’s party, and Ann Richard’s party. Mostly I will resent him for making it difficult for my black friends and I to see each other the way we used to. I have the utmost respet for the 10% who were not bullied into following blindly. You disrespected most of your elected leaders in the black community. They were the people standing on the dias with Hillary, the people who worked for and helped you for years. So were the Clintons, and I would have to think that white politicians will think long and hard before they put themselves out like that again, for a group that can turn so blindly and completely.
With this off my chest, just remember guys, we may look soft and cuddly, but most women are made of steel, you try walking in heels for ten hours a day!
on July 8th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I surfed by MSNBC this AM to hear Joe Scarborough saying that it has been a mistake for the dems not to offer proof of their Christianity in previous elections. He suggested that O talks about Jesus and Christianity.. I e-mailed Joe my reaction… Actually, I think that’s a great idea. I am waiting for O to address his “version” of Christianity. I would like him to explain how he interprets scripture, defining Christ as a poor Black man from Africa, and that Liberation Theologians believe they are the chosen people. Actually, Jesus was not poor. In his day, his father was a carpenter, which means he had a trade, and that puts him in the middle working class of the day. We can assume Jesus had quite a tan, but my scripture says He is a Jew. As far as the chosen people….no, I think the Jews might have problems with that one as well. But my very favorite is the following from the mission statement of trinity….When O was “saved”, he was called to Christ according to the following doctrine. “for God who is not pleased with Americas economic mal-distribution! W.E.B. DuBois indicated that the problem in the 20th century was going to be the problem of the color line. He was absolutely correct. Our job as servants of God is to address that problem and eradicate it in the name of Him who came for the whole world by calling all men, women, boys and girls to Christ.”
Since there is nothing in the scriptures that point to America, economy, or color line. W.E.B DuBois must have had a private conversation with God.
on July 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
sorry sista, but i have to be on record for being very anti-t bone. spirited debate is one thing, but antagonizing and insulting commenters is another. he is not respectful and adds nothing but vitriol to the conversation.
on July 8th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
anti-t-bone? oh piper, I thought we were making progress…
these postings against o are nothing but antagonizing and insulting and are based on innuendo and rumor.
so please spare us with folks on here taking the high road…
on July 8th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
well, what’s-his-name has given another HRC team member a job. He’s hired HRC’s director of Women’s outreach.
See link:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/obama_hires_hillarys_director.php
on July 8th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Howdy…
I thought I’d throw my two bits in… this place is just too fascinating to stay off for long.
First off, hats off to the cool chicas in heels, the moderators of this site I would all be proud to call friends, I’m here because I had the distinct pleasure of conversating with Princess in the city of Brotherly Love.
Two, I can say with complete certainty, that if the fellas.. American soldier, justiz had said anything as vitriolic as we are exposed to by rey and mr. marvel, we would be immediately and continuously deleted. I believe most of our intent has not been to convert you all to voting for Obama, but to get you to look at all of the candidates with same eyes, and reasonably, rationally take a look at all of the pros and cons of the candidates.. and realize that they are all flawed, and all part of the same, corrupt system.
Yes, given the choice between BO and HRC, I voted BO.
Given the choice between morphine and asprin before a construction worker takes a jackhammer to my chest, I choose morphine.
Why did I pick Barack Obama? Partly because he’s new, and had a possibility of being different, but also, partly because he is mixed, raised by a white mother, intellectual, given to long speeches, and has racial identity issues. But recent issues, like FISA, like voting to continue funding Iraq, and the AIPAC kowtowing, bring me to my original conclusion, to get to where they are, they must sell out.