trash-talking and shooting blanks
Wind-blown Princess just completed a rather
uncomfortable and unsafe shoot for Good Morning
America at ABC’s studio in Coral Gables, Florida.
My first hint that the producers Pro-Bama was their
awkward staging of this particular live shot. I was
asked to stand on an unstable 2X2 foot metal box 
with exposed hardware (buckles) on top. Did I
mention I was in heels? After nearly tipping over
during my first climb, the assistant attempted to
stabilize my faux platform, insisting this was the
only way we could proceed. The next ten minutes
were spent scrambling for bobby pins to hold back
my hair which was whipping around in 20-mile-an-
hour gusts. My earpiece whistled like a wind tunnel
as I attempted to listen to the questions, balance my
body and not blow away.
At the end of my shoot, was which cut rather
abruptly, I was verbally engaged over my
“ridiculous” choice of voting for McCain. (Gosh, I
don’t remember ever saying that.) But the most offensive
comments by one of these supposed unbiased
production hands was the implication that anyone
who doesn’t vote for Senator Obama is obviously
someone who would never for a black person.
I am still mortified by my experience this morning. I
thought troll infestation was limited to the
blogosphere. Yesterday I received a direct phonecall
from an Obamabot who infiltrated Hireheels. You
may know “PAPA” by his obvious command of the
English language:
“You racist PUMA (pu$$ie$)CeeRackers aren’t fooling
anybody… You racist, man-hating pigettes are nothing but
right wing trash, who are soon going to be extinct in the
NEW America. There is a new generation rising to destroy
you right wing conservative, racist female dogs, and male
pigs. You’re all squealing demons who are going to Hell,
and the world will be a much better place without you all!”
That oughtta land Papa in our greatest hits. I
actually attempted a rational chat with my ill-
mannered hireheels visitor. I tried to disarm him
with a warm, cordial greeting and said I will willing
to discuss his concerns, but he would have none of
that. Papa flat asked me: “Why you hate black men
so much?” Offended but amused, I gave him one
final chance for a civilized exchange until it was clear
that this Obamabot had yet to master civility.
This is the untold story of Obama supporters. The
vile attacks and outright harrassment previously
directed at Hillary now trickles down, in earnest,
to us.
We will continue to “out” these degenerates, as we
document the most heinous language found in the
Just Say No Deal blogosphere. This is political
discourse? This is unity? This is bullshit!
on June 28th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Princess,
I can tell by our recent troll infestation that the Just Say No Deal movement has touched a nerve. (Or maybe it’s just that really hot picture of you in WaPo that has everyone so riled up.)
The Obots are here to woo us by demanding that we fall in line behind ‘teh one’ after months of not only berating our candidate with false right-wing smears and charges of racism, but after having purged us from the so-called progressive blogosphere.
But now that the Hillary and Barack Unity Tour is in full swing, do they come here bearing flowers, jewels, and Manolos? Do they whisper sweet nothings in our ear about how much they’ve always loved and needed us?
No. Instead, we get this posted in our open threads:
I
’m being censored by haters?…Cowards…all of you. You people are delusional and need to get over it.
…you shouldn’t count on Obama choosing Hill as VP; he obviously know doing so would place her one short ride from Fort Marcy Park away from the presidency.
Think of Obam as your nose. Think of what you want from government as your face. Not voting for Obama is like cutting off your nose despite your face. Is that smart? I don’t think so.
Wow, so not only have you told us that we’re delusional and stupid, but you’ve also told us that Hillary is ruthless and capable of murder. Insults are so not the way to get into a girl’s ballot box.
On the serious, it’s these types of threats and intimidation tactics that make me question Obama’s ability to lead. His supporters are a reflection of him. If he instills this much hate and intolerance in them, then he’s not the one we’ve been waiting for.
If you’d like to talk to us, then talk to us. Treat us, and Hillary, with respect. Insults, threats, and gloating don’t get you laid, and they don’t get your guy elected.
on June 28th, 2008 at 10:59 am
FROM SISTA:
Good old Terry Mc. was on the Today Show already this AM. The “spin” is Obama and Clinton have the same or similar policy beliefs. Why would a person vote for McCain who is so vastly different– so that’s what the Obama Campaign is trying to get out in the news cycle. We are going to get those questions from the talking heads.
on June 28th, 2008 at 11:03 am
with all of o’s reversals lately (fisa, dc handgun ban, public financing), who knows what his positions are anymore.
on June 28th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Hillary came across to me as a very manipulative person, very divisive, and not representing ME in this world. And I know other women who feel this way, too. Obama is not perfect, but he is very intelligent and I think listens to advisors more than Bush ever could/would…. and I don’t think Bush Clinton Bush Clinton is a good image for America to present to the world. So my vote is for Obama!!
on June 28th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
We must emphasize Obama’s flip flopping on issues at every opportunity. In truth no one knows what he represents and so they cannot say that He and Clinton are the same on the issues. He may have copied her ideas but he did that only to get votes. Obama supporters can only “Hope” he represents them. It doesn’t take too much intelligence or research to find that Obama is an empty suit.
Go PUMA
on June 28th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Dear HH gals and guys: the following was posted by me earlier this morning in another open thread, but I think bears repeating. Although I fervently believe in and love our democracy and I will not censor respectful diatribe from either side— let me remind you who pays the bills here (that’s princess and myself). We will not tolerate vile language and despicable behavior of any kind from any person or persons who participate on hireheels.com And any person who attempts to threaten or harass any member of this site via telephone or in person will be prosecuted to the full extent that the law allows. I hope I have made myself abundantly clear.
“You racist PUMA (pu$$ie$)CeeRackers aren’t fooling anybody. You hate Obama because he’s a strong, intelligent and accomplished Black man. You racist, man-hating pigettes are nothing but right wing trash, who are soon going to be extinct in the NEW America.”
Big Papa— I suspect that at least one part of your body is very, very small! It is vitriol like this that will be your candidate’s demise. I am a life-long democrat and I have not committed to a candidate as yet. If I hear anything else like this, I’ll not be voting for anyone that you would support. Your filth has no place here. And telephoning us to harass us has no place either! You are a coward. If you want to present a viable argument do so (and this goes for the rest of you as well), if not— take your illegitimate ooze elsewhere!!!!
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
JUST IN FROM THE UK PRESS:
BILL CLINTON IS A PUMA!!!!!
Bill Clinton says Barack Obama must
‘kiss my ass’ for his support
http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/bill-clinton-is-a-puma/
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
and congrats on the multi-trolling that means we’re getting to them!!!!
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
If Obama feels so secure that he has the nomination all tied up, why isn’t he calling for a roll call vote at the national convention in Denver? Besides his history of playing the system to get opponents’ names off the ballot, it’s because Hillary won the popular vote, she won the swing states, and she won the states with the most electoral votes. Obama just won the most caucuses. Neither one has the pledged delegates to win. Superdelegates that said they’ll vote for Obama can still come to their senses as they see more and more of what Obama really is — a media phony — and vote for Hillary. Also, superdelegates don’t have to vote the way their state went in the primary; Kennedy and Kerry gave their support to Obama even though she won MA by 14%. For that matter, pledged delegates can observe the constituents from their states having buyer’s remorse and switch their vote to Hillary at the convention. They are not legally bound to vote for Obama. Hillary can still win. Go Hillary!!!
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
I’ve been getting that “same policies” BS for weeks now. I tell them of course the policies are the same, Obama stole his from Hillary, so why wouldn’t they. And then I tell them its not the message, its the messenger. And I deplore their messenger. He is unfit, he is inexperienced, he is unqualified and he is a sexist racist, and I will have no part in voting that kind of man into the highest office of this country. And then they start with the racist closet dyke comments. I tell them I am married with 2 kids and my husband won’t vote for Obama either. You can’t win an argument with this people. They can’t see past this rose colored filter they have on . They can’t comprehend that if we were going to support Obama now, we would have supported him in the primary. And now we’ve got Ed Rendell forming Hounds to counteract PUMA. Well the name is fitting, we’ve been hounded for months by attacks of racism and menopause. So, I guess we are now going to be part of a new Clash of the Titans. My bet though, is on PUMA.
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Princess: I used to have the laws regarding use of telecommunications. Seems to me that Obamomite broke quite a few. Can’t use telecommunications for his type of speech, intimidation, harrassment, threats. I’ll check and post. Keep telephone numbers, records, notes….
on June 28th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
How can we donate straight to you guys? You need a secretary, a bodyguard, and apparently your own camera person to film what the Obamedia are putting you through off camera!
What about just sending $ via Paypal to your email addy at hireheels.com?
Why not make it easy on us and get a Donate button from Paypal? Totally easy!
on June 28th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
1950democrat: i heart you so much for suggesting such a thing, but the Shoe Goddesses are leery of asking for donations.
on June 28th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Malicious or abusive phone calls are a criminal offence, under section 43 of the Telecommunications Act, 1984,.
The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 covers many forms of harassment involving persistent contact that causes distress
What’s the score with the law?
If the abuse continues, or you feel threatened in any way, consider handing it to the police. Bring your evidence with you, too (notes/itemised phone bills) and let them make enquiries. Alternatively, The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 covers many forms of harassment involving persistent contact that causes distress. For more info, report the problem to your phone service provider. They won’t want their customers unhappy, after all, and will stand by you until the problem has been sorted
.
What is it?
Phone harassment is a general term used to describe any kind of unwanted telephone call that’s intended to cause upset, grief and alarm. It’s an invasion of privacy, and a form of bullying. It may be a one-off call, or a campaign of abuse. Whatever the case, it’s unacceptable in any shape or form, and has to be stopped.
What’s the attraction?
Everyone knows that bullies are generally cowards, which makes a threatening phone call more tempting to them than a face-to-face confrontation
on June 28th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Good for you! Clearly, everyone needs to understand this is about more than Hillary and party unity. If the Obama idea of creating unity is anihilating anyone who won’t step to the dictated line, I think we’ve already been there and done that. It was called the holocaust and we fought a war about it—a world war in fact. And people wonder why some of us break out in a cold sweat when Obama tells us words are important.
on June 28th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
I e-mailed Princess and sista regarding the e-mails I received this AM. First, I received the Unity e-mail from Senator Clinton asking for my support for O’s campaign and paying off her debt. I replied, saying that I will continue to support her debt payoff but would send the check to her office in WA, and would not be contributing to O and told her why. A couple of hours later when I checked my e-mail, another e-mail came through, saying Thank you, and Dear Friend.. Senator Clinton’s e-mails were always addressed personally. It is an e-mail that is asking to join the campaign for Hillary for President. It contains several links (I didn’t open them) and then is signed Hillary for President, and paid for by Hillary for President. It’s obviously a fake, but what is this about? Has anyone received anything like that. Also, there is a DONOTREPLY in the subject area. Senator Clinton’s emails were never restricted that way. What’s going on do you think??
on June 28th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
. . .watching from Canada, and you gals rock. My friend and I want to know if we can come to Denver. I continue to love Hillary–her command of the issues was and always has been stellar. She forced Obama to get specific in the debates (flip-flops he did all on his own). She has the makings of a shrewd leader. Obama is a huge risk.
on June 28th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
oh, and i hope bill takes his time!
on June 28th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
9. hillaryNOW on June 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pm SAID:
“…If Obama feels so secure that he has the nomination all tied up, why isn’t he calling for a roll call vote at the national convention in Denver?…”
MY REPSONSE:
You pose an excellent question. It appears that the Barack Obama campaign and the DNC leadership are afraid of “open” convention. I don’t understand how they can get away with taking Hillary Clinton’s name off the first ballot, given that no candidate has won enough pledged delegates to win the nomination. If Hillary Clinton’s name is not on the first ballot, that would be an “Obamination,” or just plain undemocratic!
PUMA NY . . . JustSayNoDeal.com . . . Clintons4McCains.com
on June 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Hear ya about the “anyone who raised any questions about the prince is a closet racist no matter what” Look up sean wilentz; the obots have been using the tactic since BHO’s cocaine use came up last summer. The precise logic escapes me but then logic has not been a strong suite for these folks.
on June 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Evidently is is now a crime to not instantly “obey” and climb on the Obamawagon.
No thanks. Language like that which was repeated above is hardly the way to win a girl’s heart now is it dimwit?
As for the Obama supporter above, good for you. You never liked Senator Clinton and you support Obama. So what are you doing here? What is the point? No one here agrees with you and frankly my dear, we simply don’t give a damn.
Scurry back home and be a good little Obama troll. Women reside here. Real women. You just don’t fit in.
on June 28th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Don’t be fooled! We have all been bamboozled in this election. I had a Republican client of mine tell me last summer that they were going to make sure Obama was on the ballot. when I told her that was undemocratic she simply said it was so they could have the 2 best candidates on the ballot, which I knew was an outright lie. She said Republicans would be registering as Democrats to make sure he became the nominee and not Hillary. It has been an easy task for them considering all Howard Dean and John Kerry care about is getting even with the Clintons. There is so much dirt on Obama that the GOP will be destroying him with. It’s never been about getting Obama elected, it’s always been about Hillary NOT getting elected. What we need to do is try to get all his dirty laundry out in the open befor the Convention. That is the only way Hillary can win. This is the help she needs from us, thast is why she still has her delegates and is buying her time.
on June 28th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
i am really disgusted with the tactics of intimidation used by obama supporters. i think it would be worthwhile to create an audacity-of-threat website to document all this bs for bo.
on June 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
annieem - go for it girl. The way to beat the intimidation is to stand up and say “hell no, we are not going to take this any more.” If this is what he is like as a candidate, guess what he will be like as president. Maybe we should have special race cops who route out racism, and anyone who does not obey the big o will obviously be guilty. Or even better race scouts who can rat out their parents for impure thoughts and unguarded talk.
on June 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Caligirl: I have Republican friends too. Whoever those people heard that from were fooled. The last person the Republicans wanted to run against is a Clinton. If they wanted O on the ticket, it was really because they thought he could be beat. Those people may have been told to believe that, and they may have believed it, but that was not the case. Republican have real reason to not want to run against a Clinton. President Clinton took the White House from the one term Pres. Bush Sr., and they were burned about that; 4 years later President Clinton won again. A friend of mine who knows Jeb told me, the Republicans don’t want to run against Hillary, they know she will win….
on June 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Kitty from Canada…..Senator Clinton does have a history of crossing the aisle; now we can add to her resume’ she has a history of crossing borders.
Of course you can go to Denver. Why not? Love your comment about “Bill”. My thoughts exactly!!
on June 28th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
dj…don’t know anything about creating a website but i’ll see what i can find out. thanks for the encouragement.
princess… tell “papa” his parole officer is looking for him.
on June 28th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
ya flowerchild that’s what I was saying. They wanted Obamba on the ticket so they can beat him because they knew Hillary was going to win.
on June 28th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Also the media will turn on him as soon as he has the nomination. It’s all part of it. George Soros putting all his money behind him is to get his buddy John McCain elected. If you research George Soro’s campaign contributions you’ll see that he donates to all Democrats and one REpublican, John McCain.
on June 29th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Great blog…thrilled to find you. I could not be more disgusted with this pathetic situation…and I’m still stunned to think that as time went on and I began to feel hopeful that we were going to be rid of bush once and for all, here comes THIS nightmare which when it all shakes out, will be far worse than anyone could have imagined.
So glad to see a blog like this.
on June 29th, 2008 at 1:34 am
I gave up on Repugs after listening to one ‘ditto’ head. Where they studied History and American Democracy beats me. The wore ‘reason’ doesn’t fit in any sentence that attempts to explain why they hate Clinton. There’s an oxycontin abuser who gets paid to suggest they should, so they go “ditto.”
on June 29th, 2008 at 2:11 am
Hello ladies and gentlemen of hire heels looks quiet tonight….got to see our girl on GMA I thought you were fabulous. You are as much our girl as Hillary.
sorry was absent today had to drive my friend around he had a siezure about 7 months ago and has not been stablized on his anti-siezure meds. Took kim to a few thrift store he collects martini glasses and candle holders and to the grocery store-fresh market.
Our version of whole foods is called fresh market and they had grass fed no hormone no antibiotic range graized Rib eyes for $6.99 a pound-had to call my sis in law -Sista i told you about her 9 1/2 narrow shoe shopping expiditions- and suggest we put her husband to work on the bbq-
the steaks were outstanding we had organic salad and italian green beans and 5 grain italian bread-mmmm-and of course a unbelievable Argentine Pinot Nior.
That dinner and a desperate search in this small town for any pair of 91/2 narrow italian slingback ate up the rest of the day. got home at ten pm thinking I could post and was kidnapped by my friends who said I needed to get out.
well here it is 2 am and I am so ready for bed, wanted to let you know I am keeping an eye out here for my peeps.
next post will be my earlier conflu post of my 10 thesis for reforming the democratic party. I am presenting them here for your comment and critique. I will be sending them to h.o.u.n.d. to see how real their intrest to reform the party is.
fuzzybeargville
on June 29th, 2008 at 2:40 am
Suggestions to Ed Rendell to improve our chances in 2012-and get me back under the tent:
1. All primaries are winner take all.
2. All states that have Caucuses must hold a winner take all primary where 1/2 +1 of their total delegate allocation is at stake.
3. All caucus delegates will be apportioned by the number of participants who choose a candidate on the first round. No delegates will be apportioned on any subsequent rounds of caucusing. This will require the states of Iowa Maine and Washington and Nevada counting the actual total number of participants.
(I think those are the evil four that do not do this)
4. Any caucus state that refuses to hold a primary under the condition of # 3 above, surrenders their 1/2 +1 delegates that they are required to be selected under this process. These delegates will be awarded to the primary candidate who receives the most popular “primary votes” at the end of the primary process.
5. The DNC, nor any of its committees, will set a state primary/caucus schedule. Any caucus or primary held before the first Tuesday in January of an election year will be null and void. Their delegations will be awarded at the end of the primary season. Their delegates will be awarded to the candidate with the most popular “primary” votes.
5. Candidates will not be allowed to campaign in any state or territory holding a primary or caucus before the first Tuesday in January during an election year.
6. While the Democratic Party acknowledges the historical significance of Iowa and New Hampshire going first in the nomination we will not in the future take any position that supports a primary calendar that ensures the presumed “special status” of these states.
7. The Democratic Party (DNC) will never again strip a state of its entire delegation. Only the sanctions promulgated above can be leveled by the party.
8. No primary candidate who removes his name from the ballot on a state that is sanctioned (or that violates any of the above rules) will be awarded any delegates from that state at the end of the primary season.
9. If a candidate who removes his name from a ballot at the end of the primary season has the most popular “primary votes” they will get none from the states where their name did not appear on the ballot. The candidate with the next highest total of the popular primary votes will get those delegates.
10. The number of Super delegates must be no more than 535+ 50+ 15 for a total of 600. These super-delegates cannot vote on the first 3 ballots. If no clear winner appears then on the forth and all following ballots the Super Delegates may vote. A super-delegate who votes for a candidate who loses a general election will not be allowed super delegate status again for the next 12 years-regardless of their position in the party.
Unlike Martin Luther-I only have ten “thesis” to propose
These are my modest proposals I submit them to you at the hireheels for comment. I am looking for constructive critique here I hope you all will comment.
I am already looking past November….sorry if Hill is not in the race then that all that keeps me going.
fuzzybeargville
sending to Hound to see if they bite-of course unnamed is hillary is the nominee for 2008 is really # 1
on June 29th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Michael, thank you for the thoughtful suggestions on revamping the process! HH ladies loooooove love men with big….brains!
Princess, I totally second the suggestions to keep detailed records of everything that happens to you. Most trolls are more interested in verbal bullying than anything, but just in case, you want to be prepared (and when they say you imagined it all, your list of names, dates, places and quotations will go a long way in calling BS on them!)
on June 29th, 2008 at 11:01 am
manolo minx you are so correct-a good record is wonderful and when we catch the jerk who did this I hope he rots in jail- I berlieve in a free expression of views but dont believe you should be able to yell fire in a crowded theater….princess you were wonderfull on gma yesterday and thank you for the sista for the link.
princess do you think they made you stand on that platform so that you might actually have fell on you tush? for them it would have been a americas funnies home videos moment-i think the MSM is just that evil to try to plan that.
also there is a new show on blog talk radio called “no we wont” will bower will be on tonight at 8 pm est it is a call in show please ladies gentlemen, fellow puma’s, support the show-”ticked off democrat” is one of us, and needs some knowedgble callers.
so do you think i should send up my thesis to the dnc? through their hound website?
fuzzybeargville
on June 29th, 2008 at 11:04 am
reg who are you talking to I donated a large part of my blue collar wage to hillary’s campaign? I think huff post said some where between $ 300-400.00 on their website…
fuzzybeargville
on June 29th, 2008 at 11:16 am
You know you’ve arrived when you become a target. The thing to do now is to make sure you’re the lightning rod for everything you want to say — don’t let the attackers define the issues, the message you want to deliver.
You’ve got a lot of people of good will behind you and we are in this together.
Ed Rendell is stealing some of our press attention. He’s part of the old news, the status quo. If you’ve got the mic, talk about what’s wanted. Let’s not give any of our airtime or bandwidth to the attackers who want to shift the conversation.
on June 29th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Saw you on GMA - loved it!! You did a great job. As for the hate mail you received - scary stuff. I say scary because the stupidity of the country elected Bush a 2nd time; now, the stupidity of the country will make another mistake. I blame BO and his campaign as well for not stopping this hate. Also, the DNC - they are probably loving it. Rats. I’m an independent now. And, just when I think I might be able to settle down a bit over them, I keep coming here (or other PUMA/Just Say No Deal places) and get reminded of the crap that’s been dealt to us.
on June 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
sheri welcome to the rebel alliance…
fuzzybeargville-the wookie in chief
on June 29th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I suppose PaPa’s Mother never taught him respect for women!
What a scumbag!
Not that you would, but if you should ever need someone to knock the crap out of this punk, I will volunteer in a heart beat.
on June 29th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
flowerchild2, thank you for the greeting! We will saddle up the huskies as soon as we have word. will we get updates at this site and others? Have you seen the Denver Group–another great site. I think it’s critical for there to be a large showing at Denver because the mainstream media isn’t reporting on the just say no contingent in any thoughtful way. princess rocks but she’s one voice–also i hear estimates of pumas and hounds numbers being denied all over the place. it’s like we’re nada and everyone else has gotten over it.
on June 29th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
reddragon-I agree I am so with you. this big wookie of the rebel alliance is doing his best top control the ol’ testosterone here. I hope you post more we need millions of voices to stand up with these brave women.
It is time to revive the Era!
fuzzybeargville
on June 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
kitty-they cant ignore us we are making to much noise and if we rock the convention then we will get more air time during the general election cycle than the big “o”. we are only a month old and some of our sites are nearing a million and a half hits…
revolutions are born won enlightened mind at a time….
fuzzybeargville
on June 29th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
There is a Myth in the Media called: “Hillary Supporters”? But they are NOT!
There are NO Significant “Real” Hillary “Supporters” worth mentioning anymore. A Real “Supporter” gives money.
How can Hillary Claim so much “Support” from “Supporters”, Yet, she is $20 Million Dollars in Debt!
This Myth of the Great Mass of Hillary “Supporters” is just another Clinton Propaganda Machine idea to Milk Obama of his True Supporters: The Average American that puts their money where their mouth is and stands up and is counted for Obama.
The Votes for Hillary were Not For Her, but Against a Black Man running for President. If they were truly voting “For” her, why didn’t they “Support” her and not leave Hillary Begging “Obama Supporters” to bail her out?
If you believe the Myth of “Hillary Supporters”, then that means she only got the Vote of the “Poor, Ignorant, Redneck Trash” too Cheap to plug a Nickel into her campaign. With Friends and Supporters like that, Obama should tell her and her Poor Trash Crowd to suck it up and keep their Complaints and $20 Million Debt to themselves!
I am looking for the Polling that shows Giving Patterns among so-called “Hillary Supporters” and why they really voted against Obama and Not For Hillary and why they didn’t give more money to her?
Racist, Anti-Obama, Noise Makers, Do Not Make Informed, Giving Hillary Supporters.
Money Talks, BS Walks (With or without Heels.)
Stop Talking Trash and Give Money like Obama’s Real Supporters Do!
on June 29th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
guy in dc - I have given over $ 400. to hillary clinton’s campaign because I have believed in her what about thise 18 million including $ 25.00 a few days ago and I will make another donation on HIllary for president Independence day on july 4th. One pro-hillary group has raised over $ 2200.00 dollars for paying off the debt in less than 24 hours.
you are a pig-guy in dc-and a coward-and your entire diatribe(look it up in websters) is a rank falsehood. Most of her post suspension support has come from those people whom you used such nasty language-its not about race-but you obots keep screaming r*cism.
Like a child you are well some time a child needs to be spanked and you will be totally thrashed when senator obama goes back to the senate and not to the white house.
your candidate would be ashamed of you guy in dc…
fuzzybeargville
on June 29th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
google shuts down anti-obama sites on its blogger platform:
http://conservablogs.com/publiusforum/2008/06/29/google-shuts-down-anti-obama-sites-on-its-blogger-platform/
is this happening?
on June 29th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Independent–i heard yes, because the obamaphiles reported such blogs as spam. Don’t know why google didn’t check it out.
on June 29th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
hey guy in dc…money talks, that much is true….but the brains, brass, creativity & determination of PUMAs is priceless — especially if we succeed….
and of course there are those campaign trips which put $$$thousands$$$ on the credit card — but were so worth it to show Hillary’s strength in so many BIG FAT STATES!!
So do your little research - but remember, love is measured in more ways than cash…
on June 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
of course GOOGLE is for OBAMA!!! That’s okay, we’re a resourceful bunch of pumas!
on June 30th, 2008 at 5:10 am
This is in response to caligirl upthread re: George Soros…
I apologize for posting the entire article but having read other articles on the site (link provided) upon return to said site, article had disappeared…
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George Soros’ Latest Takeover… The Democratic Party!
Submitted by SadInAmerica on 2008, June 29 - 1:58am.
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/2170
On Dec. 20, 1998, in the midst of his murderous speculative rampage against the currencies of Malaysia, Indonesia, South Korea, and other targeted Asian nations, George Soros appeared on CBS-TV’s “60 Minutes,” to explain and defend his behavior.
Confronted by interviewer Steve Kroft about his experiences as a youth in Hungary, under the Nazi occupation, Soros freely admitted that he posed as the “adopted godson” of an official of the Nazi-occupation government, and helped in the confiscation of Jewish properties.
Kroft: And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.
Soros: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.
Kroft: In what way?
Soros: That one should think ahead. One should understand and anticipate events and when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a very personal experience of evil.
Kroft: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
Soros: Yes. Yes.
Kroft: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Soros: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
Kroft: I mean that’s-that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Soros: Not-not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t-you don’t see the connection. But it was-it created no-no problem at all.
Kroft: No feeling of guilt?
Soros: No.
Kroft: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?
Soros: Well, of course I could be on the other side, or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was-well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets-that if I weren’t there-of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would-would-would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the-whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. I had no role in taking away the property. So I had no sense of guilt.”
In an earlier television interview on the same subject, Soros was even more blunt about his role as a Nazi collaborator in the Holocaust. On April 15, 1993, Soros appeared on WNET-TV and declared, “When the Germans came in,” his father explained to him that, “This is a lawless occupation. The normal rules don’t apply. You have to forget how you behave in a normal society. This is an abnormal situation. And he [Soros’s father] arranged for all of us to have false papers, everybody had a different arrangement. I was adopted by an official of the ministry of agriculture, whose job was to take over Jewish properties, so I actually went with him and we took possession of these large estates. That was my identity. So it’s a strange, very strange life. I was 14 at the time.”
In point of fact, Soros’s adopted “godfather” served under Nazi Waffen SS Gen. Kurt Becher, who ran what was euphemistically called the Economic Department of the SS Command, which oversaw the extermination of 500,000 Hungarian Jews. In his famous book Perfidy, an indictment of the Jews who colluded with the Nazis in order to survive, Ben Hecht described Becher’s Economic Department, in more graphic terms than did Soros. The Department was in charge of looting the properties of Hungarian Jews, in “removing the gold fillings from the millions of teeth of the dead Jews; in cutting off the hair of millions of Jewesses before killing them, and shipping bales of hair to Germany’s mattress factories; in converting the fat of dead Jews into bath soap, and in figuring out effective methods of torture to induce the Jews awaiting death to reveal where they had hidden their last possessions.”
A psychiatrist might diagnose someone who went through such an experience, yet felt no remorse, no guilt, and actually boasted that it shaped his strategies as a ruthless, and very successful speculator, as a sociopath. Such clinical diagnosis aside, the simple fact is: Soros has devoted his entire adult life to the looting of the powerless, on behalf of the British financier oligarchy that sponsored his post-war career as one of the first of their offshore hedge-fund speculators. He asserts that morality has no place in the market, and that, if he had a conscience, he could never have succeeded in amassing his billions.
The ‘Hostile Takeover’ of America
As a matter of policy, Soros’s Quantum Fund has never accepted money from any American investors-in order to stay outside the reach of U.S. government investigation. He operates in such locales as the Dutch Antilles and Switzerland, yet much of his ill-gotten gains have been devoted to what some of his colleagues jokingly refer to as the “hostile takeover” of America.
Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, Soros poured tens of millions of dollars into the campaign to legalize drugs-marijuana, heroin, and even crack cocaine. Soros refers to this as the “open society,” a lawless domain in which the only dictum is “harm reduction.” Soros’s dope legalization policies follow the model of the British East India Company, which waged two Opium Wars against China, during the 19th Century, to impose drug addiction on the population-for British profit and social control.
Soros’s latest hostile takeover target is the Democratic Party, and over the past eight years, Soros and a gang of fellow billionaires have come pretty close to achieving their goal.
Starting soon after George W. Bush’s inauguration as President in early 2001, Soros poured a reported $18 million into passage of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law (Soros has continued to be a major donor to McCain’s Reform Institute), which placed a cap on “soft money” donations to the political parties, but left open a loophole, allowing nominally independent groups, referred to as “527s,” to take unlimited donations. Soros began buying up the first generation of 527s, including outfits like MoveOn, ACT (America Coming Together), and Media Matters. Soros also played a pivotal role in the 2004 candidacy of Howard Dean, who bombed as a Presidential candidate, but was rewarded for his access to Soros loot with the chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee, after John Kerry’s loss to George Bush in November 2004.
From that perch, Howard Dean waged a ruthless campaign against candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 primary elections-in tandem with Soros’s Democracy Alliance, a secretive billionaires club, that pooled its money to take over and run a “vast leftwing conspiracy” of 527s, PACs, and think tanks, that has replaced any Democratic Party constituency organization.
In the meantime, Soros found his legion of honest Bush-haters, in groups like MoveOn and ACT, to be useful tools in his further grimy speculative binges. Following the Kerry defeat, MoveOn, the Center for American Progress, and other progressive groups on the Soros dole, targeted Vice President Dick Cheney and Halliburton, the giant oil and defense contractor that was profitting mightily off of Bush and Cheney’s Iraq imperial misadventure.
The barrage of attacks on Halliburton drove the company stock down, from a peak of $40 down to $26-at which point Soros began buying up Halliburton shares. Between the third quarter of 2005, and the fourth quarter of 2006, Soros bought 2 million shares of Halliburton, at an average price of just over $31.
As the media attacks on Halliburton-in part, driven by Soros’s anti-Bush/Cheney and anti-war zeal-died down by late 2006, Halliburton shares quickly rebounded. By early 2008, with Halliburton shares nearing $50, Soros had made an estimated $40 million in clear profit, making him one of the larger Bush-Cheney war profiteers.
on June 30th, 2008 at 5:12 am
one more- this just in: (or at least just found in my email box!)
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Did Karl Rove use Barak Obama to Take Out Hillary Clinton
“Evidence of a covert campaign to undermine the presidential
primaries is rife, so it’s curious that many within both the
Democratic and Republican parties have ignored the actual elephant in
the room this year. That would be Karl Rove, the G.O.P.’s longtime
political strategist. Accused of rigging the two previous
presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe
he’s gone off to sit in a corner and write op-eds.
Not so. According to an article in Time magazine last November,
Republicans were organized in several states to throw their weight
behind frontrunner Senator Hillary Clinton’s principle rival for the
Democratic nomination, Senator Barack Obama. While Rove’s name isn’t
mentioned in the story, several former fundraisers and strategists
for President Bush are identified. With the help of Wall Street
investment firms, these gentlemen helped flush Obama’s coffers with
cash early on in the race, something the conservative deep pockets
had not done for any candidate in their own party. With receipts
topping $100 million in 2007, the freshman senator achieved a
remarkable feat, given he only first appeared on the national scene
in 2004. In fact, the vast majority of Americans did not even hear of
him until 2006.
Fascinating breakdown of this election cycle to date…
http://www.thecitye dition.com/ Pages/Archive/ Winter08/ 2008Election. html
(Note: Printing out in PDF format is recommended. )
In light of this, it is absolutely urgent that Hillary Clinton is the
Democratic nominee. Send copies of this CityNews article to every
Super Delegate in your state and to everyone you know!
on June 30th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
hi Princess Wears Prada jusy want to let you know your doing a great job keep up the good work .
by the way you know we starting to make waves.
when the the DEM leadership started up their site HOUND to counter ours.
go pumas
on June 30th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
boogieman flatters princess….
Re: Rendell….we all know that dog don’t hunt!!!
but pumas appreciate the added attention
on June 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
If anyone know who O is and isn’t, it is Rendell. Princess was in Philly….she knows. Mayor Knutter knows…I was on Philly newspaper a lot during the PA primary, reading and contributing to the news articles. 100 Mayors throughout Philly sent O a long letter, stating emphatically that he was not their candidate. Protests were going on in front of O’s campaign office. Newspaper likened O’s big photo, hung in every bus shelter to Big Brother. I read the newspaper comments. Those people were sick of O’s constant radio ads, called it high pressure sales, and wanted him to leave. When Carolyn Kennedy campaigned with him, one blogger wrote she needs to go and take her uppity behind with her; she’s not welcome here. How he will ever carry PA after all that, is a wonder to me. Governor Rendell should do only as much as possible and just lay low.
on June 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
hi princess & everyone
saw this joke abought obama & just had to share it.
While sewing up a cut on the hand of a 75 year old west Texas rancher, the doctor struck up a conversation. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be the next President.
The old rancher said, ’Well ya know somethin’ son, Obama is what we used to call… a ’post turtle’.’ Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ’post turtle’ was. The old rancher said, ’When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s called a ’post turtle’.’
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. ’You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there in the first place !!’’
go hillary
go pumas
on June 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
hi Princess .
saw this joke abought obama & just had to share it with you.
The old rancher said, ’Well ya know somethin’ son, Obama is what we used to call… a ’post turtle’.’ Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ’post turtle’ was. The old rancher said, ’When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s called a ’post turtle’.’
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. ’You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there in the first place !!’’
GO HILLARY
go pumas
on June 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
hi Princess
saw this joke abought obama & just had to share it with you.
While sewing up a cut on the hand of a 75 year old west Texas rancher, the doctor struck up a conversation. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be the next President.
The old rancher said, ’Well ya know somethin’ son, Obama is what we used to call… a ’post turtle’.’ Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ’post turtle’ was. The old rancher said, ’When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s called a ’post turtle’.’
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. ’You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there in the first place !!’’
GO HILLARY
saw this & thought you might enjoy it
on June 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
All the Obama cultists have is their rage. Their rage will only get worse as they subject it to us, and we continue to refuse to tow the line! Ha ha ha. They can be as angry as they want. Look, we’ve lived with misogyny for a long time, and we ain’t gonna be scared away by threats of violence. We live with those threats every day, just be being women in the world. So they can kiss my a$$, Hillary or McCain 08!
on June 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
HEY GUYS & GALS - IT SEEMS OUR FRIEND TBONE WAS USING A PHONEY EMAIL ADDRESS - SO I’VE PROCEEDED TO DELETE ALL OF HIS COMMENTS ….
LET’S BOW OUR HEADS IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE
on June 30th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
hi princess
ii realy you admire what you are doing.
this is bigger than obama .hillary & the DNC/
when votes are give where taken away from hillary .votes given to obama when he wasnt on the ballot im MI. WHEN DEM leaders can pick & choose .where the want the votes to go.
that just abought the most undemocratic i can think of.
THE DNC & the media need to be taught a lesson.
thomas jefferson once said a littel rebellion now & then is a good thing.
i think its time for a puma rebellion .
go hillary
go pumas
on July 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 am
Kitty! I am a democrat living aboard in Canada. I went to the D.C. rally AND I’m going to Denver. Of COURSE you can come. Pm me, I’m RAFREE, a moderator on Hillary Clinton Forums. I’m in Ontario..
The more voices the merrier!
on July 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 am
folks, I’m a black chicagoan and my vote will go for Hillary or McCain only. If obama remains the nominee, I will vote McCain.
on July 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Is this why I received an email from Peter? I’m very confused…
on July 2nd, 2008 at 12:24 pm
On behalf of myself and the founders of the Coalition justsaynodeal,
I would like to have a conference call with the 20 plus original founders to resolve this civil unrest before our mission or anyone’s personal character is damaged. I can vouch personally for myself and the other collation founders that we came together in good spirits and intentions when we first formed and it is time that we should come back to these good spirits.
I believe that both Cristi and Diane have good intentions, so please there is no need for anyone to continue to attack character or individual groups.
When can we all meet before this gets out of the hand, hits the media and ruins all the efforts we worked hard for.
One of the Many founders or JustSayNoDeal,
Peter Boykin
NOTE: Why would I get this? Just asking. I am a part of justsaynodeal and puma (i think) I ‘am’ a Hillary supporter and will and have said NO DEAL - period. But I’m a bit concerned as to ‘why’ I would receive this. Curious at best here now.