what carlin & connery taught me about this elex
Several cold, calculating and contradictory thoughts on this farce of an election have been assaulting my poor brain. It took two completely unconnected, random events—a recollection of Sean Connery and the sad news about George Carlin’s passing—to get those thoughts to stop bouncing and snap into sense.
George Carlin was not just a counterculture phenom, but a lover of language and truth. He loathed weighty jargon that obscured the truth of a thing. George was furious that the condition known as “shell shock” in WWI had its name watered down and down until it was known as post-traumatic stress disorder. “The pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder. I’ll bet you if we’d of still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time,” he said.As for bigotry, George was equally bold. “You can’t be afraid of words that speak the truth, even if it’s an unpleasant truth, like the fact that there’s a bigot and a racist in every living room on every street corner in this country.” It was his way of demanding that we face the fact that racists exist. 
So, in honor of George Carlin and his raw truths, I thought I’d face and share a few of my own:
Truth #1 Barack Obama is not my friend
He’s bad news, from his façade as a ‘transformational’ leader while engaging in old-style political shenanigans to his deft use of sexism against Hillary…from his own sexist behavior to his not-so-stealth takeover of the DNC to his shameful, shameful support of a FISA compromise that flips the bird to the Fourth Amendment (he gets bonus double shame points for someone who claims to be a constitutional scholar). That’s hardly news to us hireheels gals and sugardaddies. And his followers, who blithely ignore any evidence that their dear leader is less than admirable, frighten me even more. People in that kind of enraptured state do bad, bad things because they’re convinced it’s for a special/holy/moral reason. Please, angels, save us from the Obots!
Truth # John McCain is not my friend, either
I say this as someone who really wants to show the DNC that they’ve taken us for granted for the last time. But the maverick stuff is a myth. I can’t ignore his
Of course, the devil I know may be better than the devil I don’t, given that we actually have VOTES from McCain to study instead of cryptic cyphers and “present” votes from Obama. However, it still stinks like expired drugstore perfume that these are our choices. This is where Sean Connery comes in. Remember Sean as the sage beat cop Jimmy Malone in The Untouchables? His advice to Eliot Ness was very relevant to us PUMAs:
What are you prepared to do?
What are we prepared to do to improve the Sophie’s Choice we face in November? What are we prepared to do to stop the enraptured Obots from becoming our new stormtroopers if their leader gets the White House? What are we prepared to do to keep Obama from being George W. Bush with a D after his name? What are we prepared to do if McCain becomes president and doesn’t give a crap about us, either?
I’ll tell you what we do. We fight. Every single day. We remember what brought us together and we apply it, 365 days a year. We pester our congressmen and congresswomen with calls and emails till their staffers know our addresses better than their own. We convince them to honor their duty to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, lest they lose their seats when we run against them. We haunt our senators to make sure they’ll block any misogynist or corporate-whore judges because they’re more afraid of our wrath than whatever the Washington elites say. We become a force of nature.
Of course, that means we have to arrange our lives so that we can read the news regularly. Post to blogs. Keep ourselves informed about what’s really happening and not just what the blow-dried bobbleheads want us to know. (Never trust a man who uses more hairspray than you do.) Devote time and energy and effort to fighting tooth and nail for our country. That’s a tall order for most of us, who have enough trouble finding time to clean the kitchen, never mind hunt for real news. But if you’re serious, really serious, about making this big a stand, it’s necessary. George Carlin spoke uncomfortable truths. Sean Connery’s Jimmy Malone understood the cost of a blood oath in a deadly battle. And both of them inspire me to ask you: What are you prepared to do?
on June 24th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Personally, I think our best strategy is to help McCain win – despite the awfulness of it. This is because if he wins, I believe we have a better chance in 2012. If he wins, the disingenuous disgusting smooth talking guy will be discredited and the rightful nominee will be more or less absolved.
Likewise, we elect as many democrats as Senators as we can and we fight (not sure how to influence this) for Harry Reid to be removed as Senate Majority leader.
We also stick to our guns about forming what in effect is a third party – the independent, swing voting party…..
All of this takes leadership … which takes time and intelligence … and then it takes money. Just say no deal is off to a good start …but we must take it to the next level.
This is what Howard Dean did starting the moment he lost in 04… and he learned it from the Republicans. We must learn it too.
… imho.
on June 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am
“ikewise, we elect as many democrats as Senators as we can and we fight (not sure how to influence this) for Harry Reid to be removed as Senate Majority leader.”
It won’t matter if the senate continues to act like the senate in tiberius’ times, and vote to take oaths of allegiance to the emperor – i mean, president.
almost all of our current sitting senators are cowards: obama, mccain, clinton, dodd, all of them – and don’t you dare trot out mccain’s wartime pow status – that lost street cred as soon as he signed on to the military commissions act in 2006 – allowing the president to decide what torture is and isn’t.
as for “this isn’t a vote for war”, well, we know what people said, and we know what happened, and we also know that bush and company were itching for an excuse to go back to iraq – anyone who thought it wasn’t really a vote for war needs to pull their heads out of their fourth point of contact – because we keep hearing that congress didn’t _need_ to declare war, the authorisation to use military force was all that was needed.
frankly, i’m sick of the lot of them – they are all cowards who won’t stand up to the imperial executive and are leading us further and further down the road to a sustained war with islam.
not a war on terror – you can’t fight a technique. did we declare war on surprise sneak attacks from the air after pearl harbor?
No.
I’ve been there – we aren’t fighting terrorism, all that much, anymore.
we’re fighting a worldwide insurgency – non-contiguous, asymetrical warfare, against a defensive jihad.
the islamic fighters don’t hate out freedom, no matter what your congresscritters and elected sycophants try to tell you.
if they hate our freedom so much, why haven’t they declared a defensive jihad against sweden?
they hate american policies that have attacked the heart of islam – the attempt to set up secular states in muslim countries is a violation of sharia law.
_we_ value the seperation of church and state – they do not, and never have, so why are we trying to force it on them?
we keep supporting what amounts to dictatorships all over the muslim world, because those dictators claim they are helping to root out the extremist muslims, and those dictaorships keep the cost of oil well below what the _world_ market will bear, because the us markets will not, and the dictatorships will lose one half of their consumer base … all the while funneling the profits they do reap into jihadis.
i’d love it if clinton would have the ovaries to say it like it is.
i’d love it if obama had the balls to as well.
i don’t think either of them do.
who do i vote for – none of the above?
minx, i get your point about who you love – but the reality is that if they are serving right now, and will for the next four years (one term of whomever is the next president), they _will_ deploy again.
it’s not _if_, but when?
on June 24th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Unless Obamarxist (THE UNQUALIFIED AND ILLEGITIMATE CANDIDATE) deconstructs before the Convention, the only way at this time to assure his defeat — which we must — is to vote for John McCain. But McCain cannot win without our votes. Why don’t we try to make him include us along with the Repug social conservatives? What a tap dance.
Let us not vote for every Democrat down-ticket. Please vote for the best candidate who appreciates the center, where the vast majority of Americans reside, and for those candidates who did not support Obamarxist. (Pseudo)Progressives are authoritarian leftists — now we know!
And let’s us “work our hearts out” to defeat this disaster.
on June 24th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Go to Fox News, Greta wire. Scroll down and you will see photos of Hillary arriving in WA today. She looks beautiful and drew a huge crowd. Tonight Greta is interviewing Pelosi. 10:00 PM EST. She had a thread asking for questions to ask her. I wonder if she picked mine??? LOL!!
on June 24th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Go to fox news, Greta on the record. She took beautiful photos of Hillary arriving back at the Senate today. She drew a huge crowd, and she looks beautiful. Tonight, Greta 10:00 PM EST Greta will show her interview with Pelosi. I wonder if she picked my questions to ask her….lol.
on June 24th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I don’t know why that posted twice; I waited forever to have it come up. Sorry everyone.
on June 24th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Here is a real thing we can do … 1) thoroughly research the write-in laws in the key democratic states. 2) publicize the hell out of the ones that allow and count write-ins 3) get people to the polls to write-in HRC …. Now this would have to be well researched and documented and a risk-reward calculated. In other words, we know a vote for McCain is a vote against Obama but would a write in vote end up that way. It depends on the efficacy of this campaign…. I read over on Clinton dems an ostensible recounting of how it works in NY but I personally would need a LOT more proof. The last thing I want is to write in HRC and vote for the sleazeball. ….
on June 24th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
btw – these polls surely aren’t anything for the bad boy to get excited about. At this stage he is supposed to be way ahead… and some of these are even in the margin of error.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
on June 24th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Write-in Hillary may not work either. McCain has another problem. Bob Barr, the Libertarian. Predictions coming in that I have heard say he is up to perhaps 6 percent, and votes for him could swing it to O. Positve visualization – - walking into the voting booth and voting for the lady wearing the beautiful pants suits.
on June 24th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
The first thing we need to do is pay down Hillary’s debt. She need to go to the convention debt free. We have to keep fighting every day writing, and calling your State Senators, the super delegates. We need to write and call the “good guys” who are standing up for Hillary, and holding strong for her. we have the lists out. We need to keep writing the newspapers in every town, your own local town and everywhere we see Hillary having to go with him. We need to have presence at every stop that they make, every meeting they attend we need puma power there. we need people with signs, megaphones whatever it takes to let them know…we are still here and we are not going away. ….that glass ceiling is cracked…we can still shatter it in August at the convention……this is the most important lesson we could ever teach our own children and grandchildren it is the legacy we can leave behind….that we worked hard, we worked smart …we worked together that is what the real unity is …….one big puma roar…….
on June 24th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I agree prplvette! hireheels has it’s own link that goes right to hill’s site. sista says donate your mani/pedi and help our girl nail her debt and get dean off her back!
https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=ac0&rc=I39A
on June 24th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
and p.s. thanks to all you hot heels who have already donated to nail it for hill!!
on June 24th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Off Topic:
Did anybody else get an email today from the Women’s Media Center asking to help against the attacks against michelle obama. I do not believe she should be attacked neither do I believe that Cindy McCain should be attacked. The group did a post on it’s website for HRC, but they never did more. Here is my response to their request:
Subject: Letter from Carol Jenkins re Michelle Obama
I recall that Michelle Obama was one of the worst offenders against Hillary Clinton with this remark:
“If Hillary can’t keep her own house in order, how can she run the White House?”
Furthermore, Jodie Evans, who is a current board member, delighted in disrupting Senator Clinton’s appearances with her CodePink group. I do not like the premise of CodePink to begin with let alone their tactics.
No thank you. I will pass on this request, and I unsubscribed from future communications.
I think they will get the drift.
I think we need a “bad girls” video soon.
on June 24th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unity NH !!!!!!!!!!!!
okay here are the details:
unity nh, unity elementary school, 6/27/08, 12:00
unity is right off of i91 which makes it a reasonable trip from springfield ma, boston ma, hartford ct, albany ny, and of course parts of nh and vt. you can map quest it and simply put in unity elementary school in place of “business” unity is a town of only 1,700 so i doubt that there will be a crowd of 10,000. a couple hundred puma’s would make the news and the place will be crawling with national media because this the first appearance of hillary and obama together. if only handful of us show up it will be dismissed, no doubt, as those disgruntled people, but if a few hundred show up……….
so who’s up for this? bring a pair of flip flops.
on June 25th, 2008 at 3:04 am
Minx… I like what you are saying. .
Voting for McCain is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
His views are completely opposite and I think we are at a place in history too perilous for vengeance voting. That’s truly childish anyway, the leadership of our nation warrants the best choice available.
When it comes to Obama
The FISA vote is hard to understand, and warrants caution, along with this AIPAC pandering (the lobbying group of a foriegn nation)And fanatics of any type are not a good thing… I don’t think “Hilbots” are any better.
I don’t know why you guys keep acting like she’s not a politician. She eats from the same trough, and is very well-fed.
No, I’m with American Soldier on this. Congress is full of weak, corrupt, out of touch amoral aholes, whose world consists of saying what they think the masses want to hear, while doing what gets them the cash to stay in office.
And like you yourself said, none of them has the balls to stand up to tyrants like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, who are using their offices to create TRACEABLE sources of wealth for themselves, and no one calls them on it. Battered wife syndrome, not willing to use the power of the purse, not willing to use the Senate floor as their campaign podium, to demonstrate their leadership with actions instead of words, even against a lame duck president with the lowest approval rating in history.
No, taking on the President is a David and Goliath type task, not suited for most people, but it is the type of tough fight a leader, our leader, the person who would be President needs to take on especially at this juncture in human history.
on June 25th, 2008 at 6:15 am
alg0rhythm,
Thank you for the compliment, and I think you make some good points, but I think we disagree a bit more than you give me credit for. I don’t actually think voting for McCain is cutting off your nose to spite your face…so long as you are fully aware of the consequences and willing to do whatever it takes to counteract them. That’s why I keep asking, “What are you prepared to do?”
I don’t know who I fear more: McCain, with his right-wing, constitutionally-blind, pandering crazy man B.S., or Obama, with his smooth talk masking misogyny, blank-slate vague “hope” approach that lets people project anything onto him without his commitment to anything, gutless “present” votes and endless caving to the right wing. At least McCain’s followers aren’t whipped into a religious-like frenzy and swarming, mobbing and harassing us like cult members (I got surrounded and held against my will for a short time by cult members,once, so I know how insane that feels).
As for not thinking Hillary is a “politician,” I’ve never thought anything but that. One of my big beefs with Obama is that he’s pretending he’s “changing politics” and his shit doesn’t stink even though he’s engaging in old-school Chicago-style hardball politics. Confession: I respect hardball. I think it gets a bad name. I want a candidate who’s willing to fight tooth and nail for me, and politics is messy and ugly. No problem with me! But don’t base your whole image, your “brand,” on what a new, transformational figure you are and how you’re above that stuff. That’s the language of a conman future dictator.
on June 25th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Hello Ladies and Gentlmen-love the lead in Music-our possum in chief has been busy….no not repairing the damage on his FISA flipflop or his Silly SEAL, or even reaching out to Hillacrats…
No he has been building a big alternate reality for us all to live in after his presumed november victroy. His new ad claims he voted for a bill and was responsible for its passage (91-3) that increased health benefits to veterans….here is the rub he wasnt there for the roll call. No vote at all from Senator Obama.
This “flat out lie” was so obvious it was caught at red state.com. team obama said that since the big o worked on the bill (probably walked into the committee room and farted and left) he has a right to claim it was his partisipation that got it passed…He even has pictures of himself with soldiers in it. what a class act.
I am to piissed off to even go on this guy is “a real piece of work” as my grandma used to say God rest her soul. well gotta go to work now.
Fuzzybeargville
Justsaynodeal
I am not a piece of work
on June 25th, 2008 at 7:02 am
ali, as an adult in my mid forties voting for mccain is the political equivilant of taking the party out behind the wood shed and giving it a good beating for being a misbehaving child. Am older and am will to suffer in silence with the mccain in office to make my point.
oh for the record here is my stock reply to all Obamaist:(pardon the typos this the undeited version)
“I am sorry my refusal to support Senator Obama in the Genaral Election is not up for discussion. I cannot be cajoled, harrassed, or guilted into changing my mind. If you would like to discuss us working on down ticket support of the party to increase democratic control of the congress I am open and look forward to such a discussion.”
fuzzybeargville
on June 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I love this post. I think its right on target and definitely the approach I’ll be going for this election cycle. I’ve signed up to volunteer with jeanne shaheen, she’s a three time gov of by (1st female gov in the state!) running against the sitting republican she narrowly lost to the first time she ran. Its set to be a close race but seems to be leaning her way! I thought I needed a productive outlet for my anger and disappointment!!
on June 25th, 2008 at 10:23 am
that’s meant to say ..three time gov of nh! My predictive text overwrote it! Still getting used to this iphone!
on June 25th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Greetings Carol Ann! How goes it over on the other side of the pond— if you are in fact still there… And I hear ya fuzzy. hotsky: I agree with touting the flippy-flops up in nh. fab idea! rock on heels!!
on June 25th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Okay my heart is beating out of my chest – THEY just called me on my home number asking for money for the selectee. I calmly told them my position but frankly I wanted to strangle them. The girl on the other end seemed totally stunned. …. my guess is this means HRC has given them at least part of her list…. I did simply say that I believe the DNC manipulated the whole process and that I would not go for the deal and did not consider myself a dem any longer… wheww….
on June 25th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I hope folks maintain the movement to keep HRC in contention for the Dem nom THIS year. Can anyone help realize and distribute the following cartoon idea?
Presidential Campaign Cartoon Idea:
Three rows of panels: top with John McCain, middle with Barack Obama, bottom with Hillary Rodham Clinton.
1. First frame of each panel shows the person standing on a bluff, discovering the United States (large USA-shaped block) teetering on the edge of a precipice.
2. Second frame shows the person running off to get something.
3. Third frame shows each individual’s action and new prop:
a. McCain with helmet, standing atop the USA in a “full steam ahead” pose
b. Obama with a sledge hammer breaking off the eastern part of the country so that it falls over the edge
c. Clinton pulling on a rope tied around the middle of the country, dragging the entire country back onto safe ground.
on June 25th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
ea love it wish I could draw
fuzzybeargville
on June 25th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
This can be called over-reaching …. he clearly thinks he is already the President. Bottom line- you have to win 2 out of 3 – Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania… if loses two, he won’t win…. (sorry that I am not focused on keeping HRC the nominee … as much as I want it, I don’t think it can happen without something unusual happening and I believe the Repubs won’t bring out their real arguments until after the convention. So, our best hope is for him to lose … and everyone to realize they should have run the better candidate who can then win in 2012…
but ah the hubris of the below –
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/25/politics/politico/main4206953.shtml
on June 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Ladies Gentlemen McCain/Obama tie at 45% each in new gallup tracking poll the big O cant get a bump-ok I will go there-no matter what….this is good news-check out other tracking info posted-they are being coy over there at gallup-
fuzzybear
on June 25th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
thanks fbg–what do you make of the la times poll that has o up by 12?
i’m not too concerned with polls. kerry was up on bush this time last election…
on June 25th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
the la times poll is probably not looking at likely gen elect voters probably less accurately looking at elligible voters which is less scientific-and gallup is more respected than the LA Times-
how about this below:
just got a obama for america solisitation-gosh I thought they forgot about me. I was an e-mail I guess I am not worth the postage…
my reply:
“I am sorry my refusal to support Senator Obama in the General Election is not up for discussion. I cannot be cajoled, harassed, or guilted into changing my mind. If you would like to discuss us working on down ticket support of the party to increase democratic control of the congress I am open and look forward to such a discussion.”
I am sorry I will give no time and money to your endeavor; I am committed to the PUMA movement. I look forward to Mr. Obama returning to the senate for the next congress , where he should spend more time learning his job and showing up to vote on issues that are important to the Democratic Party. I would also expect him to keep President John McCain on a short leash until we can run a more qualified candidate in the 2012 election.
Also in conclusion, I cannot believe that you would support a candidate that has manipulated the democratic process to gain the nomination. The party should be ashamed. After our loss in November, I expect a major house cleaning when the DNC headquarters is moved back to Washington DC where it belongs. I will be glad to assist you in this house cleaning and in overhauling our nominee selection process.
Michael P Varvel
Justsaynodeal
on June 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
luv u fuzzyb. hireheels guys and gals our buddy will b. is getting dissed by one lie after another on http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/06/pumas-will-bower-fraud.php
go on and give those bots the stiletto boot!
on June 25th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
sista–if they’ve stooped to telling lies about us, it must mean that we’re effective.
on June 26th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Not quite sure what I will do in November other than NOT voting for the Obamacrat.
I am seriously considering voting for McCain, not in a childish fit of pique, but because I quite honestly don’t see him as dangerous to this country as Obama. In my state, Wisconsin, it will, IMHO be very close.
I just don’t know if after never voting for a Republican in 40 years if I can do it now. Confession, I did vote Green once against our DINO Senator Kohl and if she runs again, I’ll vote for her again.
I own my vote. Not any party or anyone that thinks they have a right to try and convince me to vote the way “they” think best.
That said; RIP George Carlin. Under all the laughs, there was a whole lot of truth.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. George Carlin
on June 26th, 2008 at 8:11 am
kenoshamarge–you do own your vote. voting is a personal decision that should be based on your values and beliefs and not what the parties, media, sycophants,or bloggers (including myself) say you should do. let your conscience be your guide in november.
on June 26th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I don’t put a ton of stock in polls at this point but that being said there is positive news for our ultimate outcome here.
Gallup reverted to a tie today and the overall average is only a couple of percentage points outside the margin of error.
I say let him get more confident, more arrogant and more out of touch … he will inevitably be more likely to make bigger mistakes – maybe even before the convention.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
on June 26th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Read all the way to the bottom –
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_carlson&sid=aKQP3tMdLu1U
on June 26th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Read all the way to the bottom
Ouch. That’s gonna leave a mark
on June 26th, 2008 at 9:55 am
It’s the audicity of hope if mr slick thinks he’s going to get Pres. Clinton’s endorsement beyond those 27 words. You didn’t even deserve that, and flattery will get you nowhere.
on June 26th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
akron great link specially the end read my middle paragraph upthread ……I look forward to Mr. Obama returning to the senate for the next congress , where he should spend more time learning his job and showing up to vote on issues that are important to the Democratic Party….at least I let him keep his seat in the senate. I did not send the big “o” back to Chicago to be a junior partner in dowe-cheatum-and-How lawfirm…
sometimes I can be quite generous….
fuzzybeargville
on June 27th, 2008 at 2:01 am
Off topic? There’s some kind of ‘pledge’ going around, notably from iownmyvote.com? I hope whoever wrote it will be glad to hear that if it isn’t doing well it’s not that we’re not here or not interested — it’s that the ‘pledge’ is badly written and sounds like surrender! (As does the ad that womencounttoo pac is promoting now.)
They might get better results with something more determined. These pieces sound like figleaves for coming around and getting over it!
If someone wants a statement to get a headcount, how about:
“We will not vote for Obama in November.”
on June 27th, 2008 at 2:05 am
Btw, I hope y’all know that a good article has just come out in the WP about Diane and us — and the comment string is still short!
h t t p : / / http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062604162_Comments.html
on June 27th, 2008 at 2:29 am
What I am prepared to do stay home and not vote at all. Lots of my friends and family are doing the same. I am willing to write in Hill’s name. I am in California but understand they will not count the vote antway..
on June 27th, 2008 at 3:25 am
This Hillary supporter says No to Obama. I don’t see why she doesn’t run as an Independent! But if she doesn’t, then at least John McCain is a patriot and I can sleep at night if I vote for him.
But I don’t trust Obama.
on June 27th, 2008 at 4:22 am
WATCH THIS VIDEO…..THEN SCROLL DOWN THE LIST OF ARTICLES IN THE CANADA FREE PRESS..You will learn alot about Obama and see why we MUST vote MCCAIN and against any Dem who did not back Hillary:
http://obamacom.blogspot.com/2008/04/obama-quotes-two-worlds-of-obama_5320.html
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/categories/C4
on June 27th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Sexymamao,
please vote in california if you are not in favor of the anti-gay marriage amendment leave the presidential section blank, the vote will be close and millions of gay and lesbian couples are counting on you to say no to writing discrimination into the california constitution….
save marriage for all in callifornia vote no on the man woman only ballot initaitive(sic)
fuzzybeargville
on June 27th, 2008 at 8:25 am
George Carlin did not “pass,” my dear. He died.
on June 27th, 2008 at 10:29 am
having just read the Wash Post piece with Diane and seeing some of the numbers, I want to make a suggestion as to what we could do. …
raise the money to produce and run a mainsteam media television commerical re BHO that has the effect the swift boat ad had for John Kerry. … Karl Rove’s article (gaws who ever thought I would agree with him) has perfect fodder…. but it won’t get into the minds of the people we need to convince. If we set this as the goal of justsaynodeal – we could rally our resources with a focus that could change what happens. …. thoughts?
on June 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Well if obama weren’t backed by the chicago daley mob or if we were electing a CMO (chief marketing officer) instead of a commander and chief I might consider your pissy comments t-boner. I will not promote any candidate who can’t even show up for their current position but one third of the time. And If exposing crooked politics and cronyism for what it is pisses off the democratic party establishment— fine and dandy!!! I’ll Take a stiletto and smash straight through the center of the double-dealing dem charter. after our party is truly vetted of the money grubbing sleazy usurpers— a new, stronger, truer party will rise the phoenix from the smoldering ashes. i look forward to that day.
— scl
on June 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
t-bone. Why do you feel compelled to tell us what to do?
Your post makes it clear there is lots you aren’t aware of but it still begs the question above.
on June 27th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
“The audience’s split second of shock is always palpable when it hears George Carlin say, “If there is a god, may he strike me dead.”
Guess George met his match!…Jesus is Real, Alive and thankfully does not play games and regardless who is President, we will all stand before the God of the Bible one day very soon. Don’t take George’s word for that one if you really care about yourself–Repent, and be saved!
on June 27th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
“Guess George met his match!…Jesus is Real, Alive and thankfully does not play games and regardless who is President, we will all stand before the God of the Bible one day very soon. Don’t take George’s word for that one if you really care about yourself–Repent, and be saved!”
render unto caesar …
on June 27th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Hillary in August. Nothing less.
Spread the word.
on June 27th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Floridians just faxed Debbie Wasserman Schulz, who appeared on CNN last night. She led our “Count Our Votes” rally to WA, is a super for Clinton, now supporting O. Seemed to me that she was doubting our strength; so I faxed her a letter assuring her we are real, in numbers, and asked for voice. Also posted hireheels and justsaynodeal so she can look us up. Fax number: (954) 437-4776.
You know we are making waves when you read the two posts on here. Reminds me when Hillary was constantly being pushed to step down, threats and so forth. You don’t attack someone who poses no threat to you. The more they wail, they stronger they know we are…..I’ll leave it at that.
Peace everyone!!
on June 27th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
While I agree with much posted here, it is obvious to me that a vote for McCain (or even a write-in) is cutting off our noses to spite our face.
2012?? Are you SERIOUS?? How much more damage can be done by another 4 years of Bush III?
How many people will suffer bankruptcy due to a health crisis and no insurance? How many more of our daughters and sons will die or be permanently maimed in Iraq, or even IRAN if McCain becomes president?? How many more neocon / conservative / christian hypocrite judges will be appointed to the supreme court??
I support the spirit and message of this site, but to hand the election to McCain and his Republican cronies out of spite is not only foolish, but an act of MADNESS!! Please consider these points before we vote in November.
on June 27th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
George Carlin did not “pass,” my dear. He died.
Good one! Yup, he snuffed it, old George. Shat the bed.
As for you, t-bone,
1.) Why is it Obama’s fault she ran a terrible campaign?I’ve already called Hil out on hanging on to that scabrous creature Mark Penn longer than she should have, so there. However, that’s hardly the only factor in this primary cycle. The horrendous treatment Hil got at the hands of the DNC and the corporate media, treatment that was vastly different from the treatment Obama got at a stage when they were all supposed to be neutral, was the overriding factor, in my humble opinion. You’re free to disagree, but I see way too much evidence that the contest was rigged (unconsciously or deliberately, I don’t know).
2.) As for censorship, it’s not censorship unless it’s committed by the government. The Hire Heels ladies pay for this site and have the right to moderate it as they wish. Get your terms straight.
3.) As for your “cowards” remark, shove it up your ass. You’ve shown no respect for the people here. I’ve had great conversations here with people who disagreed with me, and we still managed to show respect for each other. Coming into my house and calling me a coward and delusional is neither showing me respect nor encouraging me to see things your way. It’s punk-ass bullshit. You want respect here? Show it and you’ll get it in return. Till then, happy shoving.
on June 27th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I would add one thing to your excellent analysis. When no one was looking or plotting, a movement born from being revolted by politics as usual, was born. We are more than followers Hillary. We are ordinary people committed to seeking and posting the facts, thinking through what’s happening in our world and we’re committed to solving the very real problems we face as responsible adults. We will have disagreements. We are adults. We are not zealots. We are adults. We are many and supporting the truth, integrity and reasoned solutions to real problems makes us a movement without a leader–for the moment. As long as we do not give in…As long as we do not give up….we will be enough to make a difference and set this country on a path that’s driven towards the good of the many instead of the profit of the few.
on June 27th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Recently Unsealed Court Documents Confirm Obama Heavily Embroiled in Rezko Case »
By Un coup de des on Jun 27, 2008 in Barack Obama, Chicago, Chicago politics, Patrick Fitzgerald, Rezko, Tony Rezko | 81 Comments
According to today’s edition of the Chicago Sun-Times, “Barack Obama’s name could have been invoked more at the corruption trial of his former fund-raiser Tony Rezko.” But prosecutors instead chose to focus on the first target of Fitzgerald’s probe: convicted slumlord and notorious Chicago political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the man who helped Obama purchase his […]
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/category/patrick-fitzgerald/
on June 27th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
This has been pointed out time and time again – Obama was not in the Senate when the bill on Iraq came up so he could not vote against it.
on June 27th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Think of Obam as your nose.
Think of what you want from government as your face.
Not voting for Obama is like cutting off your nose despite your face.
Is that smart? I don’t think so.
on June 27th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
man, do you guys ever get dates? calling us stupid will get you nowhere. sorry guys, but i’m just not feeling the unity from you.
t-bone: hillary did vote for the aumf. and so did kerry, edwards,daschle, dodd, and biden and others (25 dems in all IIRC). did you take such a tough stance against the kerry/edwards ticket in 2004? and daschle is a part of obama’s team. what about his judgment?
as i’ve said before: this is bush’s war. stop blaming hillary for it, especially when she wasn’t the only one to vote for it.
on June 27th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
t-bone: dennis called us stupid, although calling us delusional isn’t much better. and after obama siding with thomas, alito, and scalia on Kennedy v Louisana, i really don’t have much confidence in the judges he’ll pick.
sadly, we will never know how obama would’ve voted for aumf. all i know is that he didn’t do anything beyond give a speech to prevent or stop the war.
on June 27th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Guilty as charged. I posted Rezko. Read it and weep. Obama called his decision to enter into a land deal with Mrs. Rezko a bone-headed decision. Some would call it money-laundering. The plot thickens……
on June 27th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
t-bone: see, you’re learning. it’s much better to engage us than it is to insult us.
however, you’ve already showed your true side to us. better luck on the next blog.
on June 27th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/14/prescience-will-rezko-blow-up-obama/
Author Larry Johnson:
But then comes the Rezko trial and we learn Obama was doing favors to get an Iraqi felon a visa to the United States. You know, he is just helping out one of his major fund raisers. Will his story line about a new day in Washington still sound plausible? Will folks still believe he’s serious about not being beholden to “special interests?”
I don’t begrudge Obama trying to help out a buddy. I just wish he’d cut the holier than thou act. He’s playing the Washington game like many others. In this case, however, he may get dirtied up. And in that case he could take the Democrats with him.
A passport for Nadhmi Auchi, the Iraqi billionaire who infused Rezko’s bank account with millions of dollars of cash before the bankrupt Rezko helped Obama purchase the Kenwood mansion he and Michelle could not afford in 2005, may not be the favor that will sink Barack Obama and the Democratic Party he is now corrupting. But some favor involving Obama and Rezko will. I quote a paragraph of the column John Kass of the Chicago Tribune published today:
The last thing Sen. Barack Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich needed was that letter written by convicted Illinois influence peddler Tony Rezko promising he’d never rat out his pals.
on June 27th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
t-bone: no one is Begrudging you having a dream, but does it have to be a nightmare???
on June 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Here’s a 06/26 article about the New Hampshire Democrats for McCain. There are some prominent Dems in the group. Not a lot of unity it seems in NH afterall.
http://www.politickernh.com/brianlawson/2169/prominent-dems-lead-mccain-group
on June 27th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
I am an Obama supporter who has also admired Clinton. I am an American with an older brother in the military and a sister soon to emerge from college.
I respect whatever decision you feel you must make. I simply hope that people will consider that their votes may be a life and death decision for people like my brother, not to mention those who might become the collateral damage of another neocon war.
Your vote may decide the economy and job market which my sister faces in her first years out of school as she tries to find her place in the world.
Lastly, my mother is a brilliant woman who has devoted most of her life to grassroots environmental causes, starting with cleaning up the Hudson river and continuing on to today. Your vote may greatly enable or disable the causes she has dedicated her life to.
I hope that every voter will weigh their choices heavily. It there another way to stand up for this cause without giving America and the world another 4 years of disastrous policies?
Thank you.
on June 27th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Geez i go to work and the sh*t hits the fan…actually t-bone”d” the wookie is speaking now and Han Solo told you never interupt a wookie. Democrats dont re-nominate general election losers not primary losers. so obama-vader had better win this one he has bet the farm.
If this were a game of 21(blackjack) puma is holding pat on 18 and obama is saying hit me with 4 cards adding up to a eight and seven a king and a duce (27) he has already lost the general election just nobody on team obama has the guts to tell him.
queenie-boy the trolls are heavy today-on all the sites-we dont have to suffer through 4 years of McCain or 4 years of possum in chiefs incompetence….there is a third path its Called Hillary Clinton…the choice is really the big “o’s” .it’s Hillary at the top of the ticket or McCain in November.
You see we are willing to suffer for what is right its called “a sacrifice” momentary pain for long term gain. the nice thing is we will not be suffering alone you will be right there with us….we will keep each other company and we will be saying “i told you so….its all your fault”
Jesse-spam troll-you have posted that same tripe on every blog today
girls its time for glenda….the good witch of the north “be gone you have no powers here…..before someone drops a house on you…and take your little candidate too….
fuzzybeargville
on June 27th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Go Girls! I love this site.
Action items – If BHO is going to get indicted, get the dirt out in July, not in October. You think it is impossible that the most politicized Justice Department in history is sitting on an explosive corruption indictment? They convicted Illinois Governor Ryan and have indicted aides to current Governor Blagojevich. Obama fund raiser Rezko has been convicted as well. The Republicans are still smarting from the Independent Counsel revelations of Bush senior’s involvement in Iran Contra the week before the 92 election. You think these folks don’t hold grudges; think again. A hot date and some pillow talk with the right guy in the AG’s office could be just the ticket.
- Don’t get suckered by the “Michelle does Jackie O” act. When BHO talks about “his wife” without giving her a name and talks proudly about how she is not on the campaign because she is spending her time at home with the kids, he is revealing his true colors, sweetie. At least McCain can respect women with successful careers.
- Go long. Bush junior has left such a horrific mess that who ever gets elected this year is likely to be remembered as a one term president who oversaw the implosion of the US economy, explosion of the Middle East and spent much of his energy mired in battles with an entrenched and incompetent civil service left over from Bush Jr. The time to start planning for 2012 is now.
on June 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Looks like y’all need a troll zapper. You have my email.
on June 27th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
I think that this movement is dangerous and irresponsible and you need to consider that if the republicans get back into the white house we are all in for a really bad time. Hillary got on the bus, why can’t you.
on June 27th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Kara, i am a life-long dem. it is not irresponsible to speak up when a process is flawed, unfair or illegitimate. it is dangerous to do nothing!!!!!! Thank you for your comments, but i respectfully disagree.
Hillary gave her word to support and campaign for senator obama if he was the presumptive nominee, because she is a genuine individual with a lot of class— she is doing so. i made no such promise. my vote is my own, not senator clinton’s or anyone elses. I have not committed to senator mccain, but if one more person tells me to “get on a bus” or “fall in line.” I probably will vote for him in mere protest!!!
on June 28th, 2008 at 12:19 am
It’s not so much a “Sophie’s Choice” as it is a “Rosemary’s Baby.”
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:09 am
kara- a word of caution these nice ladies and gentle men here can hold ther own but I am the wookie muscle if they need it you are a coward to come here and spout off.
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism -Thomas Jefferson said that and your candidate is not a patriot.
the folks here at hireheels are patriots and there love of this country is so much more than yours. After 4 years of jimmy carter 2 (aka Obama) we would not see a democrat in the white house for the rest of your lifetime.
We believe that disaster in november is only aviodable if Obama is not our nominee.
Could it be after months of saying you dont need us the axelfraud math doesnt add up…and you do well to bad to little to late-youthat is right you obamabots made your candidates bed now get between the lice infected sheets of your flip flop candidate and lay there…
If you are real good for the nest four years we may let you campaign for a real winner Hillary r clinton.
fuzzybeargville
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:10 am
I am so steamed that I cannot spell right
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Calling all PUMA bloggers:
Gov. Rendell has formed a new group called HOUND. Read all about it here:
http://www.padems.com/node/1368
Blog the PA Dems about HOUNDing us here:
http://www.padems.com/media/blog
You do not need to sign up for an account to blog on the site and PUMA comments are being posted.
on June 28th, 2008 at 5:26 am
kara–is that the same bus that obama keeps throwing people under? that will make for one bumpy ride.
on June 28th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Piper….Yes, it’s Obama’s Magic Bus. He stole it from the Who.
I said, now I’ve got my Magic Bus (Too much, the Magic Bus)
Each time I go a different way (Too much, the Magic Bus)
Every day you’ll see the dust (Too much, the Magic Bus)
on June 28th, 2008 at 7:35 am
flowerchild you gave me my morning chuckle have to do laundry now life goes on…..piper good morning post you gma vid please I slept thru it was up late defending with a few friends over on your other thread
attack of the pod people last night
fuzzybeargville
on June 28th, 2008 at 8:27 am
morning all!
fbg–thanks for being our wookie muscle. i totally heart you!
on June 28th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Good morning everyone. Looks like you had an infestation of Obamabots last night. Hope none of you got taken over by the pod people.
I own my vote as do each and every one of us. What I do with it is my damn business. I will never vote for Obama. I will probably vote for McCain. Nothing any troll says will change that. You waste bandwidth and time when annoying people that detest you and your pathetic candidate.
I supported Hillary. Didn’t worship her or think she was anything other than an exceedingly competent politician. She had no more right to tell me who to vote for than you do.
And please, can’t you do better than the nose and spite bit? It’s really old and tiresome. It’s also presumptuous of anyone to believe that they know why someone refuses to vote the way “they” think we should. Clueless. But that’s a given in an Obamabot.
on June 28th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Kenosha Marge… you seem anxious to call names. “obamabots” “trolls” are what you call polite people with dissenting opinions, and, I think that’s unreasonable behavior, and I am asking you to stop.
I’m no one’s bot… I’ve expressed dissenting views with both candidates, as well as disgust with their lack of urgency.
I don’t think it is presumptuous to try to understand why people are saying what they are saying, I think it is extremely open-minded.
We are, and should be looking for objective criterion, that can explain what our viewpoints are, so that others may understand them, and if necessary, refute them.
That is democracy, and that is using the differences in opinions to come to a more basic version of the truth.
I’ve heard a lot, of articulate, well spoken, and polite reasons why voting for McCain seems to be simply spite, given that the politics of the two Democratic —–politicians—– is remarkably similar, and McCain is on the complete other side of a lot of issues.
However I’ve heard nothing but name calling from the other view point, often being completely without acknowledgement of the other’s perspective.
By all means, please, illuminate us as to why that perspective makes sense.
on June 28th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
T-bone… very, very well put. And you are absolutely right… removing things that people said is censorship. Princess did it to me a couple of times, too. Saying that you own the site is akin to using your advantage to control what was said… and Piper told me that censorship was not a part of HireHeels.
That is the way of Fox News, and sometimes Keith Olbermann,(though he’s a lot more right) and that way leads to facism.
just as importantly,
When you block people out, you fail to listen to people, sometimes people who are trying to help, not just you, but the greater good.
And I am sure that is not what HireHeels is about.
on June 28th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
I think our only viable option is voting for mccain. anything else risks an obama presidency. mccain is clearly the lesser of the two evils. i know there are many who don’t think they can bring themselves to vote for mccain, but in order to properly prevent an obama presidency, mccain must be our choice.
we need to organize in the states that have become must wins for obama. ohio, pennsylvania, florida, michigan, nevada, colorado, new mexico, georgia and virginia. i’ve been studying the map and if obama loses both florida and ohio, georgia and virginia become must wins for him. we must shut him out and make an electoral victory a non-possibility.
on June 29th, 2008 at 9:39 am
dj: At least McCain can respect women with successful careers.
I must beg to differ. This is the guy who didn’t support Ledbetter legislation, which would have corrected the flaw in the law that led to the recent Supreme Court decision giving Lilly Ledbetter a whole lotta nuthin’ for decades of sex discrimination at work. He also talked down to a woman from the audience in a talk show who questioned him about it.
t-bone: I appreciate your better efforts. I don’t always respond to every point every time mostly because of time constraints. If I want to do a little digging before I respond to a particular point, I’ll do it if I have time; if not, I’ll take a pass. Obama was going to vote to confirm Roberts until a staffer warned him of the possible political fallout for him. Not an auspicious start for the democratic hopeful. More later when I have the time
on June 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Totally agree about the Storm Trooper thing. obama and his bots are bad news with a capital B.
on July 1st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Here are some YouTube ideas that may do it for Obama???
If you want a list of the 60 lies told by Obama go to this site and scroll down halfway… the list keeps growing. So use your eyes… read and educate yourselves before voting for the “selected” nominee.
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/06/ten-dealbreakers-that-are-forcing.html
And some wonderful additions below too:
Below are YouTube links that are wonderful and tell a great story. I will try to give you titles of them also. Please rate them and leave comments … we need to make them popular and please pass these links on to your friends… hope this helps us all stay strong and not let the DNC or Obama assume our votes and maybe we can say to them once again, “Just get over it.”
Below is a 5 part series on “How to Talk to an Obama Cultist”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nu48TgUVCo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6OAizwKHsU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjNY8mGhxw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxJRKXJrwU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvV8kyZUE&feature=related
527 ads against Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZPEYaPl8Vs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZIk35GHis&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSd06IHUZhY
Is Obama Your Personal Jesus?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOKdi-qxFvk&feature=related
Forest gump version… you changed … we found out about you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFbguoMgd50
HOnest talk by a black man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aIvfFq3BA
Obama believes What?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7si_7b2tAU&NR=1
on July 5th, 2008 at 2:47 am
Dr. Boyce Watkins making excuses for certain behavior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc7B_s1CcIM&eurl=http://hcsfjm.com/